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Poll: Would you get cosmetic surgery? (167 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you get cosmetic surgery?

  1. Already done (18 votes [10.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.91%

  2. Yes (86 votes [52.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.12%

  3. No (38 votes [23.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.03%

  4. No but would get botox (6 votes [3.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.64%

  5. Other (17 votes [10.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.30%

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#1 zoolander

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:11 AM


I know that there are a lot of members here that would not hesitate to get body mods to make them function better but would you get a body mod to make you look better.

Would you consider cosmetic surgery? What about botox or a laser peel? Perhaps you have already had cosmetic surgery.

Vote and discuss people

#2 Shepard

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:28 AM

I voted "Other". Right now, I probably wouldn't as I think some age makes a man's face more interesting visually. I might change my mind if the time ever comes when I can't get the good loving.

Like that's ever going to happen.
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#3 zoolander

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:37 AM

I couldn't agree with your more on that one Shepard. When I was younger I was a freestyle dancer. I use to do dance shows and runway stuff. I had a portfolio and approached a few modeling agencies but most of them said that they only take older males with a mature look.

Anyhow.....I voted yes. I don't have any qualms about getting it if I thought it was needed. I wouldn't go overboard though. For example, if I got botox I would still leave a few areas untouched.

#4 Shannon Vyff

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:38 AM

I have no idea really, I guess I would feel differently if my husband did not find me sexy, but I'm sure I'd always have a 'cause' I'd rather put the money into, no to mention cosmetic surgery IMO does not make people look better usually--sometimes just really weird.... I mean if it worked better...
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#5 zoolander

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:25 AM

the case for cosmetic surgery in someone who is 60 years old is usually overkill and these are the people who look weird.

Sting and his wife haven't gone overboard.

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You can see that he has botox to straighten out wrinkles in his forhead but he has left a few of the normal signs of aging.

Sting is 56 years old, a raw food and avid yoga enthusiast.

His beautiful wife, Trudie Style, is also in her 50's (54) and looking absolutely amazing.

Of course their health and the way they looking would be a combination of various lifestyle habits

#6 forever freedom

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:33 AM

I've younger looking 56 year-olds than sting. He, even looking healthy, still looks like someone around the 50s - maybe because of the spots of white hair. Anyways, he certainly looks healthier and younger than 58 year old, 250 pills-a-day taker young forever-wannabe Ray Kurzweil.



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#7 Shepard

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:48 AM

A woman on another board actually guessed Kurzweil as being in his 70s.

#8 zoolander

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:20 AM

Perhaps Kurzweil started to late. I had a clean diet and been training since I was 18 years old. I have been taking supplements since the mid nighties when I was a member at LEF.

This photo was taken about 8 months ago when i was 35 years.

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Most have been guessing me 25-26 since then. Haven't changed much apart from a few grey hairs which I color ;)

#9 caston

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 07:45 AM

When I look at myself in the rear view mirror in the car on a sunny day I don't like what I see mainly due to the acne scarring and pore size. I've been thinking lately about getting some laser resurfacing / skin rejuvenation.
This is where they use a laser to selectively take out small holes in certain layers of your skin and stimulate the growth of new Collagen.

There has been some advancement lately and mentioning one name the fraxel laser. I found a dermatology place in Perth that does use Fraxel and I'm considering treatment with it.

Have a look at some of the pics on the page below and scroll down to the before and after pics at the bottom. That is the sort of effect I would like to see in myself.

http://www.bcm.edu/d...logy/?PMID=2331

Its the sort of thing you would have to be very careful and precatious with though as this is your face your dealing with here.
There are two major types of laser erbium and CO2. I think there is also high-energy nitrogen plasma.

I found a bunch of videos about Fraxel through the Physician resources on the fraxel site:

http://www.reliant-t...ical-videos.cfm

Some other laser offerings appear to be:

Lumenis (CO2 I think)
http://www.lumenis.com

Laser genisis:

http://www.cutera.co...ow=lasergenesis

There is also another therapy known as Intense Pulsed Light (IPL) which is mainly used for rosacea but has been described as quiet harsh.



I guess the next level of technological advancement would be facial rejuventation using germline stemcells.

Edited by caston, 23 October 2007 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 23 October 2007 - 08:33 AM

I would like to grow thicker hair. When I was a sophomore in high school, my hair used to be thicker. Then I took accutane and around the same time, I swear it receded. Although I don't know when exactly it receded as I was more concerned about the acne than the hair :-). Now it looks similar to Ben Stiller's hairline above where it kinda pulls back a little around the forehead. I see a lot of people with this hairstyle and I don't know if it is a receding hairline, caused by the accutane, or just due to aging, but I do know that my hair used to be thicker, especially around the front, sides and back have not changed. I liked that better. I will look into the laser resurfacing, unfortunately, I did not scar with the exception of one or two spots.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 12:49 PM

You forgot hair removal!

I vote yes, as long as its simple and releatively cheap. Otherwise I could find much better uses for the money. I don't what I'd actually try, but its fun to think about.

How about a more detailed list?

- Hair colour: [Y/N]
- Tooth whitening: [Y/N]
- Hair transplant: [Y/N]
- Tattoos: [Y/N]
- Botox: [Y/N]
- Laser peel: [Y/N] (is there anything a laser can't do??)
- Chemical peel: [Y/N]
- Laser hair removal: [Y/N]
- Laser eye correction: [Y/N]
- Liposuction: [Y/N]
- Eyelid surgery: [Y/N]
- Nose job: [Y/N]
- Collagen injection: [Y/N]
- Anal bleaching: [Y/N]

That's quite a shopping list.

#12 caston

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:23 PM

Anal bleaching .. lmao

But I'm interested in what the effect of laser treatment might actually be on overall longevity... spending money on treatments that may not attack the underlying causes of ageing or increase lifespan may help us look pretty but does it help us reach escape velocity?

But these treatments may be progessive if say you get something that is a cross between laser facial rejuvenation and stem cell "seeding" that is being used for returning soldiers with severe facial burns you could actually end up with a genuinely younger face.

These laser procedures perhaps stimulate the stem cell production from hair follicles already (anyone know or want to speculate?) but what if we used our own germline cells?

The other possibility is using laser or other forms of EME to break up other signs of ageing such as crosslinks and destroy junk.

Edited by caston, 23 October 2007 - 01:34 PM.


#13 JonesGuy

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:38 PM

I currently have much better things to spend my money on.
I don't think that there are many scientific feedback loops from any money I spend on skin therapies.

#14 forever freedom

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 02:22 PM

I would do a hair implant surgery since my hair in the front of my head isn't abundant and is very thin.

#15 eternaltraveler

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 10:50 PM

yes I would get cosmetic surgery, but only when I need a new Identity

#16 Live Forever

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 10:55 PM

yes I would get cosmetic surgery, but only when I need a new Identity

For after you have been a hit man for a few years?

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 10:58 PM

otherwise the hitman to med student/aging researcher transition can be particularly difficult. Or so I hear ;))

#18 Ghostrider

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 12:41 AM

Or do you mean med student/aging researcher to hitman? Heck, I can think of one guy who you could take out that would help the fight against aging.

Yes, I would be totally open to cosmetic surgery, but only if it is biological. In other words, I don't want non-living matter inserted into me, computer chips, implants, etc. Maybe someday, but right now I am not comfortable with the idea.

#19 caston

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 12:42 AM

Instead of using laser do you think even more precise facial rejuvenation could be carried out by manipulation of existing cellular organelles and their processes such as autophagy?

http://www.fightagin...ives/001329.php

http://www.fightagin...ives/001322.php

#20 Karomesis

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 07:10 PM

[lol] I'd go way beyond that list Basho.


I'm one of the more extreme transhumanists out there. although I wouldn't take a potentially deadly gene therapy to treat a "cosmetic" aspect of aging, I would do it to actually slow/reverse the process itself.

#21 mitkat

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 05:36 AM

I have had quite a few body mods over the years, althought to a few they may not classify as "cosmetic". [tung]

Voted 'yes' to the poll - by the time I might actually need to get a fairly minor therapy done, it'll be so cheap and safe (hopefully less invasive) that I'd have no reason not to do it.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:58 AM

It is interesting to see that the Yes' are over 50% bearing in mind that most here are not even old enough to be experiencing more than superficial signs of aging. If the demographic were split into those below and above 30 then that would be interesting.

Of course it's going to be pretty skewed by the fact that most people are here because their frightened of (ok concerned about) getting old and or dying.

Personally, dying doesn't bother me, death is binary - you're dead or you're not. But aging and getting to a point where every time I look in the mirror I want to sigh - that bothers me! So Yes, go for it, just remember to stop before you look stupid.

I'm just a little ray of sunshine aren't I [lol]
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#23 REGIMEN

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 05:15 PM

I voted no. That is unless sometime in the next 40 years people get the stick out of their ass and start letting children in third world countries sell their face for transplants.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 05:35 AM

It is interesting to see that the Yes' are over 50% bearing in mind that most here are not even old enough to be experiencing more than superficial signs of aging. If the demographic were split into those below and above 30 then that would be interesting.

Yeah. Although perhaps counterintuitively, when I was younger, I decided that I would have a facelift "when I was 45". 45 came and went, but I never had the facelift. (I don't look bad for my age, face-wise.) If I found myself in a situation where I had to compete on the basis of my appearance (for a sex partner, job, or whatever) then I would have no problem with it. I'd also get a browlift. In the past I've done some light peels and electrolysis.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 05:50 PM

Graeme what a nice pic ^__^


I voted no, I don't think I will do a plastic surgery.

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#26 sentrysnipe

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:16 PM

I voted Yes. I consider cosmetic surgery nothing different from:

getting a new hairstyle
dying your hair
nail polish
makeup
shaving, waxing
getting your teeth fixed


Sometimes I just wonder what the social stigma is all about.

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:24 PM

some things polish the your unique looks, features and beauty while other things CHANGE them...

#28 sentrysnipe

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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:33 PM

some things polish the your unique looks, features and beauty while other things CHANGE them...


But polishing IS change.


- Anal bleaching: [Y/N]

lol what do you need that for? being a porn star is the only thing i could think of.

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 02:35 AM

Perhaps Kurzweil started to late. I had a clean diet and been training since I was 18 years old. I have been taking supplements since the mid nighties when I was a member at LEF.

This photo was taken about 8 months ago when i was 35 years.

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Most have been guessing me 25-26 since then. Haven't changed much apart from a few grey hairs which I color :)


You're nice looking and don't look older than early thirties, but honestly I don't see how someone could mistake you for mid twenties.

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 07:21 AM

You're nice looking and don't look older than early thirties, but honestly I don't see how someone could mistake you for mid twenties.


Ahh it isn't hard mate... but ya, seems like early 30th to me.




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