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[inawe]

What to do when a candidate is on the wrong side of the issues? Use slogans or words that conjure something powerful. Like "Maverick".
McCain made his carrier riding this word, maverick. Now it's getting to be a bit too much.
Does maverick mean different? If so it does apply to McCain in his campaign. It's the first time in the History of America that a
presidential candidate allows his campaign to be controlled by the running mate, the VP candidate. The VP candidate draws people to the
events, they come to hear and see the VP candidate. On other words, the VP candidate is carrying the campaign. A real maverick.

[inawe]

We have the complete tickets now. May be the title of the thread should be changed to McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden.
Whoever becomes president, his first presidential act would have been the pick of the VicePresident (VP) of the US.
In the old times the only function of the VP was to check every day if the president was alive. And take over if he wasn't.
More recent VPs have assumed other responsibilities. To the point that the current one, Cheney, can be thought of being co-president. Even
running the show at times.
We elect a president, not a king. It shouldn't be just up to the president to pick the VP. It should be up to the citizens. The
winner of the primary of a party will be the presidential candidate the 2nd, the candidate for VP.
As it is, McCain and Obama made their choices. Being close to 66 years old, Biden probably doesn't intend to run for president in 2016. Biden will
just be VP and help Obama. The leader of the Democratic party will be Obama and a new one will be selected in 2016.
The 44 year old Palin is being groomed by the Republicans to be VP, be the leader of the party and run for president in the future.
Voters should have an idea of what they are choosing when they enter the booth.

[inawe]

I posted before that Palin was being groomed to be the future leader of the Republican party. In a piece in the New York Times, Frank Rich goes a step further.
He's telling us that if they get elected, McCain will just be the front man for a Palin presidency.

"The question today: What kind of president would Sarah Palin be?
It’s an urgent matter, because if we’ve learned anything from the G.O.P. convention and its aftermath, it’s that the 2008 edition of John McCain is too weak to serve as America’s chief executive. This unmentionable truth, more than race, is now the real elephant in the room of this election.
No longer able to remember his principles any better than he can distinguish between Sunnis and Shia, McCain stands revealed as a guy who can be easily rolled by anyone who sells him a plan for “victory,” whether in Iraq or in Michigan. A McCain victory on Election Day will usher in a Palin presidency, with McCain serving as a transitional front man, an even weaker Bush to her Cheney. "

http://www.nytimes.c.../14rich.html?em

Edited by inawe, 15 September 2008 - 10:58 PM.

[REGIMEN]

I posted before that Palin was being groomed to be the future leader of the Republican party. In a piece in the New York Times, Frank Rich goes a step further.
He's telling us that if they get elected, McCain will just be the front man for a Palin presidency.

"The question today: What kind of president would Sarah Palin be?
It’s an urgent matter, because if we’ve learned anything from the G.O.P. convention and its aftermath, it’s that the 2008 edition of John McCain is too weak to serve as America’s chief executive. This unmentionable truth, more than race, is now the real elephant in the room of this election.
No longer able to remember his principles any better than he can distinguish between Sunnis and Shia, McCain stands revealed as a guy who can be easily rolled by anyone who sells him a plan for “victory,” whether in Iraq or in Michigan. A McCain victory on Election Day will usher in a Palin presidency, with McCain serving as a transitional front man, an even weaker Bush to her Cheney. "

http://www.nytimes.c.../14rich.html?em

"3rd party" people...please. It's the "lesser of two evils" time here in the US.

Edited by REGIMEN, 16 September 2008 - 11:48 AM.

[inawe]

Straight talk?

[biknut]

How about this dirt. Where's the fair unbiased major media on this? If this were about Palin they'd be all over this.

Obama Pays Women Only 78 Percent of What He Pays Men

Thursday, September 18, 2008
By Fred Lucas, Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) – While Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has produced a television ad criticizing Sen. John McCain’s position on equal pay for women and pointing out that women in America are paid only 77 cents on the dollar compared to men, Obama pays his own female Senate staffers, on average, only 78 percent of what he pays male staffers.

Women on McCain’s staff, meanwhile, earn 24 percent more on average than women on Obama’s Senate staff. McCain also pays his female Senate staff members a higher average salary than his male Senate staff members.

http://www.cnsnews.c...px?RsrcID=35972

[sentrysnipe]

How about this dirt.
McCain also pays his female Senate staff members a higher average salary than his male Senate staff members.
http://www.cnsnews.c...px?RsrcID=35972

For 10 points...

And by "pay", did you mean
a) sexual favours? (SHOCKING!)
b) ski trips?
c) cocaine?
c) all of the above?

[REGIMEN]

http://imomus.livejo...com/400901.html

"And this brings us to McCain, and my fear that he will win on November 4th. When I see McCain, pretending -- as in this recent ad -- to be a "maverick" and yet representing more-of-the-same, I see the malady of America. When I see Obama, I see a remedy for America, a chance for it to redeem itself. And I'm afraid, like the Brutish British, the Americans (or a big chunk of them) are going to plump for the malady over the remedy. Because the malady has come to define their sense of self. The malady -- like punk rock -- is national, whereas the remedy -- like reggae-inflected post-punk -- is international.

The claim that more-of-the-same McCain is a maverick is laughable, of course. The idea that McCain and Palin "fought Republicans" while being Republicans is a ludicrous piece of mental gymnastics. But posing as a conservative "maverick" is likely to play as well in America as posing as a rich "punk" does in Britain. It might just work, because this mythology -- no matter how blatantly paradoxical -- is embroidered deep in the culture. Put it this way, when I think of the parallel world in which McCain and Palin win, it doesn't seem far-fetched or alien. In fact, it's a world which shares the values a lot of Americans have right now. It's who they are. It's the malady, the one they know, the one they like."


---Rest of essay at link at top

[ GOBAMA! ]

Edited by REGIMEN, 20 September 2008 - 04:35 PM.

[Cyberbrain]

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This just gave me the aspiration to get as many people to vote for McCain as possible. I loved every moment of that and hope it comes about. Great post Kostas considering that vid could go both ways. It was weak in that it didn't say any reason not to vote for McCain. I think everyone knows already that if one candidate gets more votes than another that that candidate will be elected. Duh...

[inawe]

Latest Poll
Blue States for Obama 249
Red States for McCain 163.
About the toss up States:

Obama takes the lead in Florida (27 votes)
Raleigh, N.C. – Benefiting from increased voter concern over the economy and the
declining popularity of Sarah Palin, Barack Obama has taken a 49-46 lead over John
McCain in Florida. A PPP survey conducted three weeks ago, right after the Republican
convention, showed McCain leading by five points in the state.

Obama takes lead NC (15 votes)
Raleigh, N.C. – With concern about the economy even higher than it was the week
before, Barack Obama has taken a small lead in North Carolina, the newest survey from
Public Policy Polling finds.
Obama leads John McCain 47-45. Last week the two were tied. In the previous survey
the economic polled as the biggest issue for 58% of North Carolinians, a new record.
This week that figure increased to 64%. Obama has a 55-38 advantage with voters who
name the economy as their top concern.

Things look good.

[Iam Empathy]

Obama and McCain exchanged letters on ethics reform two years ago. Note the difference between Obama's and McCain's tone...

http://obama.senate...._ethics_reform/

[maxwatt]

William F. Buckley's son,Christopher Buckley, a self-professed small government conservative, endorses Obama:
Sorry, Dad, I'm Voting for Obama

His reasons are interesting to say the least.

[inawe]

William F. Buckley's son,Christopher Buckley, a self-professed small government conservative, endorses Obama:
Sorry, Dad, I'm Voting for Obama

His reasons are interesting to say the least.

Seeing the way McCain and his supporters are behaving in this campaign, any serious conservative would be ashamed of endorsing it.
You advised to not wrestle with a pig. Embracing a pig will get you dirty also.