72 replies to this topic

[Lazarus Long]

Just so you understand due process better I know why he is subject to Selective Service but I am tired the the hyperbole without citing the actual law.

Learn to put the relevant law on the table first and then support the claim of fact with evidence, not mere innuendo or just your interpretation. For example in the case you cited for Selective Service the burden is on you to demonstrate he didn't register before making such an assertion. Just saying he didn't does not make it true.

[luv2increase]

This video was sent to me via e-mail a few days ago. It will answer your questions. It now has over 1 Million hits on YouTube and has only been up for 2 weeks exactly!

edit: This is 1 of 2 of the same videos on youtube. Both 2 weeks old. The other one has 3.3 Million hits & this one has 1.1 Million hits for a grand total of 4.4 million hits. I believe this would cause suspicion in a lot of people. Bad or Bama. I can't believe he didn't just put this to rest.

Edited by luv2increase, 27 October 2008 - 12:46 AM.

[niner]

Hey- Fuck the Constitution! Who needs that old rag, anyway?

It doesn't matter a damn what is written in the Constitution- all judges should just completely ignore that old "out of touch" document, and just make decision on what they think is "fair".

Yup, this is entirely consistent with Neocon thinking. They've been wiping their ass with the Constitution for seven and a half years now; no sense in stopping, eh? Of course, it also hinges on completely ignoring the facts that Laz presented.

[TianZi]

Oh, well, so my attempt at humor failed. No matter.

Obama's campaign did put this rumor to rest in the middle of 2008. Here's a copy of his birth certificate, evidencing his birth in Hawaii.

http://i305.photobuc...Certificate.jpg

[niner]

edit: This is 1 of 2 of the same videos on youtube. Both 2 weeks old. The other one has 3.3 Million hits & this one has 1.1 Million hits for a grand total of 4.4 million hits. I believe this would cause suspicion in a lot of people. Bad or Bama. I can't believe he didn't just put this to rest.

Subtracting multiple hits from the same people, this was probably watched by about a million Right Wing Nuts. So What? I should have bought stock in a tinfoil company.

[luv2increase]

Oh, well, so my attempt at humor failed. No matter.

Obama's campaign did put this rumor to rest in the middle of 2008. Here's a copy of his birth certificate, evidencing his birth in Hawaii.

http://i305.photobuc...Certificate.jpg

OMG! You just haven't been paying attention. This document has been proven to be a Photoshop Image.



There are many independent analyses of the various postings of Obama's birth certificate online. Here are a few for your viewing pleasure:


http://atlasshrugs20...ifcate_forgery/

http://www.obamacrim...alysis-part-one

http://firedoglake.c...aught-in-krime/

[suspire]

Oh, well, so my attempt at humor failed. No matter.

Obama's campaign did put this rumor to rest in the middle of 2008. Here's a copy of his birth certificate, evidencing his birth in Hawaii.

http://i305.photobuc...Certificate.jpg

OMG! You just haven't been paying attention. This document has been proven to be a Photoshop Image.



There are many independent analyses of the various postings of Obama's birth certificate online. Here are a few for your viewing pleasure:


http://atlasshrugs20...ifcate_forgery/

http://www.obamacrim...alysis-part-one

http://firedoglake.c...aught-in-krime/

Doh. Because something has been prepared via Photoshop for posting or for email does not make it a forgery. Really, do get a grip.

And all your "experts" are notorious wing-nuts who have been out for Obama's blood for ages and whose credibility has been shot time and again over many other issues. Here is a refutation of one of the main culprits of this myth:
http://strata-sphere...p/archives/5626

[suspire]

Oh, well, so my attempt at humor failed. No matter.

Obama's campaign did put this rumor to rest in the middle of 2008. Here's a copy of his birth certificate, evidencing his birth in Hawaii.

http://i305.photobuc...Certificate.jpg

OMG! You just haven't been paying attention. This document has been proven to be a Photoshop Image.



There are many independent analyses of the various postings of Obama's birth certificate online. Here are a few for your viewing pleasure:


http://atlasshrugs20...ifcate_forgery/

http://www.obamacrim...alysis-part-one

http://firedoglake.c...aught-in-krime/

Gah. Just because it was posted via Photoshop does not make it a forgery--people use Photoshop all the time, especially when scanning in documents for posting. Really, do get a grip.

And all these "experts" are wing-nuts with incredibly bad track records for information and reliability. They're like warehouses for insane theories and hate speech.

But here is a debunking of one of the key sources(Polarik--his nonsense is one of the main poisoned wells of information that keeps being repackaged and recycled) of the "forgery" myth:
http://strata-sphere...p/archives/5626

By the way, the guy who debunked the "Obama birth certificate forgery myth" is a die hard conservative and anti-Obama. He just thinks the conservative blogosphere is killing itself by siding with the claims of madmen. I used his detailed debunking, instead of a liberal, Democrat or pro-Obama website, in order to show lack of bias in the debunking.

Folks, here is a tip: When luv2increase posts something on this topic (or anything else equally ludicrious), Google the information and you'll find about a zillion counters that debunk his entire argument. I think we can all avoid further brain cell death.

Edited by suspire, 27 October 2008 - 04:14 PM.

[luv2increase]

Gah. Just because it was posted via Photoshop does not make it a forgery--people use Photoshop all the time, especially when scanning in documents for posting. Really, do get a grip.

What planet are you from? The photoshop program used on Obama's faked birth certificate cost over $300. Photoshop is not something "people use all the time". It is a professional software program used by professional image editors... Good one suspire...

Folks, here is a tip: When luv2increase posts something on this topic (or anything else equally ludicrious), Google the information and you'll find about a zillion counters that debunk his entire argument. I think we can all avoid further brain cell death.

You've never debunked anything I've ever written suspire. The link you pointed to was not done by an expert, and it didn't verify every attribute of the image, yet it only looked at ones which would not have been adultered!

Go here for a complete analysis... http://atlasshrugs20...-exclusive.html

[TianZi]

Gah. Just because it was posted via Photoshop does not make it a forgery--people use Photoshop all the time, especially when scanning in documents for posting. Really, do get a grip.

What planet are you from? The photoshop program used on Obama's faked birth certificate cost over $300. Photoshop is not something "people use all the time". It is a professional software program used by professional image editors... Good one suspire...

Folks, here is a tip: When luv2increase posts something on this topic (or anything else equally ludicrious), Google the information and you'll find about a zillion counters that debunk his entire argument. I think we can all avoid further brain cell death.

You've never debunked anything I've ever written suspire. The link you pointed to was not done by an expert, and it didn't verify every attribute of the image, yet it only looked at ones which would not have been adultered!

Go here for a complete analysis... http://atlasshrugs20...-exclusive.html

It would not matter how comprehensively anyone debunked "facts" in which you believe. You'd continue to believe whatever you choose to believe. If Obama himself handed the original document to you, notarized and authenticated by the Hawaii state government, you'd believe it to be a forgery. It is therefore a wasted effort to attempt to reason with you, on par with arguing with an evangelical regarding the Bible.

Edited by TianZi, 28 October 2008 - 06:29 AM.

[luv2increase]

It would not matter how comprehensively anyone debunked "facts" in which you believe. You'd continue to believe whatever you choose to believe. If Obama himself handed the original document to you, notarized and authenticated by the Hawaii state government, you'd believe it to be a forgery. It is therefore a wasted effort to attempt to reason with you, on par with arguing with an evangelical regarding the Bible.

It that how you deflect the source which I posted? Are you a psychic or something. All the guy has to do is hand it in instead of paying millions of dollars to fight from having to turn it in. Anyone with a brain would consider that quite silly, well maybe not everybody...

I wonder what people will think about Obama using their campaign contributions for something as crazy as fighting against turning in his birth certificate. Are we in the Twilight Zone? Campaign contributions should be spent of things that are "going to help you get elected", not something as trivial as fighting against turning in your B.C.

Edited by luv2increase, 28 October 2008 - 01:43 PM.

[Iam Empathy]

Obama 1961 birth announcement from Honolulu Advertiser:
http://www.wikileaks...lulu_Advertiser

Game over, luv2decrease

[luv2increase]

Obama 1961 birth announcement from Honolulu Advertiser:
http://www.wikileaks...lulu_Advertiser

Game over, luv2decrease

OMG!! That has already been taken into consideration. If I live in a city, and I and my wife are out of town and have a baby, we are going to call our local newspaper and make an announcement that we had a baby....


That proves absolutely nothing. Why won't your buddy release his medical records and college records. Because it has his place of birth on them. Face it, your buddy is a liar and is holding back from the American people.


You are guilty as charged when you paying millions of dollars trying to suppress from having to turn in your birth certificate. Are we in the Twilight Zone? Why is that so hard for you mesmerized Obama supporters to understand? You aren't using your brains, period.