0 people killed in the name of atheism in history
You must of never heard of the horrendous death toll, imprisonment and torture caused by the Marxist atheists such as Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, etc.
over 800 million killed in the name of religion in history
In the name of false religion those people were killed. The true religion of the Bible teaches nonviolence, peace, justice and mercy.
mr. elijah3, you seem to have your details a bit off. Stalin was not a Marxist. Nor was Zedong. Let me explain so you can understand. I am not looking anything up and copying and pasting, so what im saying is not infallible, but from what I understand, I have the basic concept nailed in the head.
The doctrine of Marxism is based on dialectical materialism, and historical realism. What these two things are, they explain how relationships develop among the simplest things, such as atoms, and goes on to show the similarities among the power relationships that micromolecules exhibit, and that we exhibit. This moves on to explain the fact that change occurs constantly. Quoting trotsky:
"The Aristotelian logic of the simple
syllogism starts from the proposition that 'A' is equal to 'A'. This postulate is accepted as an axiom for a multitude of practical human actions and elementary generalisations. But in reality 'A' is not equal to 'A'. This is easy to prove if we observe these two letters under a lens—they are quite different from each other. But, one can object, the question is not of the size or the form of the letters, since they are only symbols for equal quantities, for instance, a pound of sugar. The objection is beside the point; in reality a pound of sugar is never equal to a pound of sugar—a more delicate scale always discloses a difference. Again one can object: but a pound of sugar is equal to itself. Neither is this true—all bodies change uninterruptedly in size, weight, colour, etc. They are
never equal to themselves. A sophist will respond that a pound of sugar is equal to itself "at any given moment". Aside from the extremely dubious practical value of this "axiom", it does not withstand theoretical criticism either. How should we really conceive the word "moment"? If it is an infinitesimal interval of time, then a pound of sugar is subjected during the course of that "moment" to inevitable changes. Or is the "moment" a purely mathematical abstraction, that is, a zero of time? But everything exists in time; and existence itself is an uninterrupted process of transformation; time is consequently a fundamental element of existence. Thus the axiom 'A' is equal to 'A' signifies that a thing is equal to itself if it does not change, that is, if it does not exist."
As you see, from the above quote, you can get a grip of what dialectics is. It is based on constant change, whether on the biological scale, like Darwin has proven, or social scale, as history has proven. And now with capitalism about to take a major dive, looks like something is about to change, and I don't mean it in the Obama style.
Let us leave speculation behind, but yea, we have, thanks to the brilliant idea of descent with modification, explained how we came to be. But thanks to the concepts of scientific socialism, we understand how power relationships develop. How one group starts to take control, while the other is exploited. The greatest thinkers in mankind were part of the idle owners of the means of production. Darwin, Einstein, heck, even us. We are typing our opinions on a global web of connections, that anyone with access to a computer, most likely idle people like us, can see.
Marx postulated based on vigorous research how history of mankind has followed a similar path, for example, from a tribal commune, where everyone lived in small groups, and everything was shared among the group to maximize reciprocation, and survival for each one (each by acting selfishly of course, i am in no way supporting the group selection theory). Archeological evidence, has shown us that with the movement of time, people experienced natural disasters, and unexplained phenomena from nature. They needed something to connect that phenomena to. Hence, animism, or gods in the form of animals were created. Than monks, or witch doctors, basically people who can contact, and manipulate nature appeared. But that still doesn't explain marxist theory. Until we get to agriculture.
Let us define agriculture, the world is derived from agri which mean field, and cultura= which means cultivation. The word cultura, derived from cultus, where we get the word cult from. Basically it was more or less, a worship of the ground. A worship of nature, hence once again, there were people who manipulated nature with their mysticism, and there were the poor peons working the fields. With agriculture came something that changed the history of mankind.. Excess food, and idleness. With excess food, class divisions started to appear immediately, and hence capital became a driving force for more work. And with idleness, came thinking. People like Plato, aristotle, Muhammad, Maimonides, and so on. And about those monks, well, they just changed shapes over the time of history. They were witch doctors, they were monks, priests, or whatever you want to call them wherever you went. With class division, came hierarchies and power. The religious and the powerful, or the owners of means of production, united, each to secure their own behinds. One would help the other, and vice versa.
Now to follow history, the divisions grew more and more. Suddenly there were kings in the forms of gods messengers. There were prophets, there were divinely ordained kings, there were rulers, warlords, and on the other hand, there were slaves, serfs, laborers. These prophets and these lords worked in a vicious cycle. The religious leader preached to the people about the importance of not being idle, the importance of following rules, and one very important point, which to this day haunts the poor. THAT IF YOU WORK, AND FOLLOW THE RULES THAT GOD GAVE US, THE AFTERLIFE WILL MAKE UP FOR THE MISERY OF THIS LIFE. And the powerful owners of the means of production benefit from the religious people, and the poor peons work and work, in order to secure a place in their paradise. Marx said "religion is the opiate of the masses"
Now time and time again, some bright people tend to stand and fight the order, but religion always captured the imaginations of the majority. The same people who were getting shafted again and again by the same order they supported (the same with southern americans voting for the republicans, while the republicans continually shaft them over and over.)
Just a brief overview, on what happened, serfs and lords, with colonialism and imperialism, and than after several revolutions and uprisings, we have the owners of the means of production, and the workers, and colonialism and imperialism being slowly replaced with globalism. basically the people who screw bolts in all their lives, and the people who sit back and enjoy the sweat of the bolt screwers.
Lenin, and Zedong have dogmatized marxism hence you get Leninism. Marx didnt propose a solution, and if he did, he made mistakes trying to predict the future, but he never advocated mass murder and the idea of the Great Leap Forward, or the Red Purge. Lenin saw Russia as a behind country, and Marx has postulated that only a capitalist country can advance through a class struggle. Lenin changed that doctrine into one we now call leninism. Basically installation of a social revolution, in a country that is not developed. As we seen, that would never work, unless you do what Stalin did, and murder 60 million people. Now Stalin, to call him Marxist, that is no where near the truth. Stalin was a leninist-fascist. He had no ideals, he was a paranoid schizophrenic hellbent on mass murder and genocide.
Stalinism and Maoism is as much a religion as christianity and islam. One is not anymore false than the other. All show us ways to live a 'better life', and secure a better afterlife, or in the case of stalinism and maoism, a 'leap forward to mankind'.
And for the people living in an imaginary world, thinking everything is getting better. Here are some facts.. This is for you Mr. Elijah, This is how much your god loves his children.
- At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.Source 1
- More than 80 percent of the world's population lives in countries where income differentials are widening.Source 2
- The poorest 40 percent of the world's population accounts for 5 percent of global income. The richest 20 percent accounts for three-quarters of world income.Source 3
- According to UNICEF, 26,500-30,000 children die each day due to poverty. And they "die quietly in some of the poorest villages on earth, far removed from the scrutiny and the conscience of the world. Being meek and weak in life makes these dying multitudes even more invisible in death."Source 4
- Around 27-28 percent of all children in developing countries are estimated to be underweight or stunted. The two regions that account for the bulk of the deficit are South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa.
If current trends continue, the Millennium Development Goals target of halving the proportion of underweight children will be missed by 30 million children, largely because of slow progress in Southern Asia and sub-Saharan Africa.Source 5 - Based on enrolment data, about 72 million children of primary school age in the developing world were not in school in 2005; 57 per cent of them were girls. And these are regarded as optimisitic numbers.Source 6
- Nearly a billion people entered the 21st century unable to read a book or sign their names.Source 7
- Less than one per cent of what the world spent every year on weapons was needed to put every child into school by the year 2000 and yet it didn't happen.Source 8
- Infectious diseases continue to blight the lives of the poor across the world. An estimated 40 million people are living with HIV/AIDS, with 3 million deaths in 2004. Every year there are 350–500 million cases of malaria, with 1 million fatalities: Africa accounts for 90 percent of malarial deaths and African children account for over 80 percent of malaria victims worldwide.Source 9
- Water problems affect half of humanity:
- Some 1.1 billion people in developing countries have inadequate access to water, and 2.6 billion lack basic sanitation.
- Almost two in three people lacking access to clean water survive on less than $2 a day, with one in three living on less than $1 a day.
- More than 660 million people without sanitation live on less than $2 a day, and more than 385 million on less than $1 a day.
- Access to piped water into the household averages about 85% for the wealthiest 20% of the population, compared with 25% for the poorest 20%.
- 1.8 billion people who have access to a water source within 1 kilometre, but not in their house or yard, consume around 20 litres per day. In the United Kingdom the average person uses more than 50 litres of water a day flushing toilets (where average daily water usage is about 150 liters a day. The highest average water use in the world is in the US, at 600 liters day.)
- Some 1.8 million child deaths each year as a result of diarrhoea
- The loss of 443 million school days each year from water-related illness.
- Close to half of all people in developing countries suffering at any given time from a health problem caused by water and sanitation deficits.
- Millions of women spending several hours a day collecting water.
- To these human costs can be added the massive economic waste associated with the water and sanitation deficit.… The costs associated with health spending, productivity losses and labour diversions … are greatest in some of the poorest countries. Sub-Saharan Africa loses about 5% of GDP, or some $28.4 billion annually, a figure that exceeds total aid flows and debt relief to the region in 2003.Source 10
- Number of children in the world2.2 billionNumber in poverty1 billion (every second child)Shelter, safe water and healthFor the 1.9 billion children from the developing world, there are:
- 640 million without adequate shelter (1 in 3)
- 400 million with no access to safe water (1 in 5)
- 270 million with no access to health services (1 in 7)
Children out of education worldwide121 millionSurvival for childrenWorldwide,
- 10.6 million died in 2003 before they reached the age of 5 (same as children population in France, Germany, Greece and Italy)
- 1.4 million die each year from lack of access to safe drinking water and adequate sanitation
Health of childrenWorldwide,
- 2.2 million children die each year because they are not immunized
- 15 million children orphaned due to HIV/AIDS (similar to the total children population in Germany or United Kingdom)
Source 11 - Rural areas account for three in every four people living on less than US$1 a day and a similar share of the world population suffering from malnutrition. However, urbanization is not synonymous with human progress. Urban slum growth is outpacing urban growth by a wide margin.Source 12
- Approximately half the world's population now live in cities and towns. In 2005, one out of three urban dwellers (approximately 1 billion people) was living in slum conditions.Source 13
- In developing countries some 2.5 billion people are forced to rely on biomass—fuelwood, charcoal and animal dung—to meet their energy needs for cooking. In sub-Saharan Africa, over 80 percent of the population depends on traditional biomass for cooking, as do over half of the populations of India and China.Source 14
- Indoor air pollution resulting from the use of solid fuels [by poorer segments of society] is a major killer. It claims the lives of 1.5 million people each year, more than half of them below the age of five: that is 4000 deaths a day. To put this number in context, it exceeds total deaths from malaria and rivals the number of deaths from tuberculosis.Source 15
- In 2005, the wealthiest 20% of the world accounted for 76.6% of total private consumption. The poorest fifth just 1.5%:
The poorest 10% accounted for just 0.5% and the wealthiest 10% accounted for 59% of all the consumption:
Source 16 - 1.6 billion people — a quarter of humanity — live without electricity:
Breaking that down further:
Number of people living without electricityRegionMillions without electricitySouth Asia706Sub-Saharan Africa547East Asia224Other101 - The GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the 41 Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (567 million people) is less than the wealth of the world's 7 richest people combined.Source 18
- World gross domestic product (world population approximately 6.5 billion) in 2006 was $48.2 trillion in 2006.
- The world's wealthiest countries (approximately 1 billion people) accounted for $36.6 trillion dollars (76%).
- The world's billionaires — just 497 people (approximately 0.000008% of the world's population) — were worth $3.5 trillion (over 7% of world GDP).
- Low income countries (2.4 billion people) accounted for just $1.6 trillion of GDP (3.3%)
- Middle income countries (3 billion people) made up the rest of GDP at just over $10 trillion (20.7%).Source 19
- The world's low income countries (2.4 billion people) account for just 2.4% of world exportsSource 20
- The total wealth of the top 8.3 million people around the world "rose 8.2 percent to $30.8 trillion in 2004, giving them control of nearly a quarter of the world's financial assets."
In other words, about 0.13% of the world's population controlled 25% of the world's financial assets in 2004.Source 21 - For every $1 in aid a developing country receives, over $25 is spent on debt repayment.Source 22
- 51 percent of the world's 100 hundred wealthiest bodies are corporations.Source 23
- The wealthiest nation on Earth has the widest gap between rich and poor of any industrialized nation.Source 24
- The poorer the country, the more likely it is that debt repayments are being extracted directly from people who neither contracted the loans nor received any of the money.Source 25
- In 1960, the 20% of the world's people in the richest countries had 30 times the income of the poorest 20% — in 1997, 74 times as much.Source 26
- An analysis of long-term trends shows the distance between the richest and poorest countries was about:
- 3 to 1 in 1820
- 11 to 1 in 1913
- 35 to 1 in 1950
- 44 to 1 in 1973
- 72 to 1 in 1992Source 27
- "Approximately 790 million people in the developing world are still chronically undernourished, almost two-thirds of whom reside in Asia and the Pacific."Source 28
- For economic growth and almost all of the other indicators, the last 20 years [of the current form of globalization, from 1980 - 2000] have shown a very clear decline in progress as compared with the previous two decades [1960 - 1980]. For each indicator, countries were divided into five roughly equal groups, according to what level the countries had achieved by the start of the period (1960 or 1980). Among the findings:
- Growth: The fall in economic growth rates was most pronounced and across the board for all groups or countries.
- Life Expectancy: Progress in life expectancy was also reduced for 4 out of the 5 groups of countries, with the exception of the highest group (life expectancy 69-76 years).
- Infant and Child Mortality: Progress in reducing infant mortality was also considerably slower during the period of globalization (1980-1998) than over the previous two decades.
- Education and literacy: Progress in education also slowed during the period of globalization.Source 29
- A mere 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World.Source 30
- Consider the global priorities in spending in 1998
Global Priority$U.S. BillionsCosmetics in the United States8Ice cream in Europe11Perfumes in Europe and the United States12Pet foods in Europe and the United States17Business entertainment in Japan35Cigarettes in Europe50Alcoholic drinks in Europe105Narcotics drugs in the world400Military spending in the world780And compare that to what was estimated as additional costs to achieve universal access to basic social services in all developing countries:
Global Priority$U.S. BillionsBasic education for all6Water and sanitation for all9Reproductive health for all women12Basic health and nutrition13Source 31
Notes and Sources- Sources:
- Shaohua Chen and Martin Ravallion, The developing world is poorer than we thought, but no less successful in the fight against poverty, World Bank, August 2008
- For the 95% on $10 a day, see Martin Ravallion, Shaohua Chen and Prem Sangraula, Dollar a day revisited, World Bank, May 2008. They note that 95% of developing country population lived on less than $10 a day. Using 2005 population numbers, this is equivalent to just under 79.7% of world population, and does not include populations living on less than $10 a day from industrialized nations.
This figure is based on purchasing power parity (PPP), which basically suggests that prices of goods in countries tend to equate under floating exchange rates and therefore people would be able to purchase the same quantity of goods in any country for a given sum of money. That is, the notion that a dollar should buy the same amount in all countries. Hence if a poor person in a poor country living on a dollar a day moved to the U.S. with no changes to their income, they would still be living on a dollar a day.
The new poverty line of $1.25 a day was recently announced by the World Bank (in 2008). For many years before that it had been $1 a day. But the $1 a day used then would be $1.45 a day now if just inflation was accounted for.
The new figures from the World Bank therefore confirm concerns that poverty has not been reduced by as much as was hoped, although it certainly has dropped since 1981.
However, it appears that much of the poverty reduction in the last couple of decades almost exclusively comes from China:
- China's poverty rate fell from 85% to 15.9%, or by over 600 million people
- China accounts for nearly all the world's reduction in poverty
- Excluding China, poverty fell only by around 10%
The use of the poverty line of $1 a day had long come under criticism for seeming arbitrary and using poor quality and limited data thus risking an underestimate of poverty. The $1.25 a day level is accompanied with some additional explanations and reasoning, including that it is a common level found amongst the poorest countries, and that $2.50 represents a typical poverty level amongst many more developing countries.
The $10 dollar a day figure above is close to poverty levels in the US, so is provided here to give a more global perspective to these numbers, although the World Bank has felt it is not a meaningful number for the poorest because they are unfortunately unlikely to reach that level any time soon.
For further details on this (as well as some additional charts), see Poverty Around The World on this web site. back - 2007 Human Development Report (HDR), United Nations Development Program, November 27, 2007, p.25. back
- Ibidback
- See Today, over 26,500 children died around the world from this web site. (Note that the statistic cited uses children as those under the age of five. If it was say 6, or 7, the numbers would be even higher.)back
- See the following:
- 2007 Human Development Report (HDR), United Nations Development Program, November 27, 2007, p.25. (The report also notes that although India is rising economically, "the bad news is that this has not been translated into accelerated progress in cutting under-nutrition. One-half of all rural children [in India] are underweight for their age—roughly the same proportion as in 1992.")
- Millennium Development Goals Report 2007
back - Millennium Development Goals Report 2007 . The report importantly notes that "As high as this number seems, surveys show that it underestimates the actual number of children who, though enrolled, are not attending school. Moreover, neither enrolment nor attendance figures reflect children who do not attend school regularly. To make matters worse, official data are not usually available from countries in conflict or post-conflict situations. If data from these countries were reflected in global estimates, the enrolment picture would be even less optimistic."back
- The State of the World's Children, 1999, UNICEFback
- State of the World, Issue 287 - Feb 1997, New Internationalistback
- 2007 Human Development Report (HDR), United Nations Development Program, November 27, 2007, p.25. back
- 2006 United Nations Human Development Report, pp.6, 7, 35 back
- State of the World's Children, 2005, UNICEFback
- 2007 Human Development Report (HDR), United Nations Development Program, November 27, 2007, p.25. back
- Millennium Development Goals Report 2007 back
- Ibid, p.45 back
- Ibid, p.45 back
- World Development Indicators 2008, World Bank, August 2008 back
- Millennium Development Goals Report 2007 , p.44 back
- See the following: back
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- Trade Data, World Bank Data & Statistics, accessed March 3, 2008 back
- Eileen Alt Powell, Some 600,000 join millionaire ranks in 2004, Associate Press, June 9, 2005 back
- Based on World Bank data (accessed March 3, 2008) as follows: back
- See the following: back
- Log cabin to White House? Not any more, The Observer, April 28, 2002back
- Debt - The facts, Issue 312 - May 1999, New Internationalistback
- 1999 Human Development Report, United Nations Development Programmeback
- Ibidback
- World Resources Institute Pilot Analysis of Global Ecosystems, February 2001, (in the Food Feed and Fiber section). Note, that despite the food production rate being better than population growth rate, there is still so much hunger around the world.back
- The Scorecard on Globalization 1980-2000: Twenty Years of Diminished Progress, by Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker, Egor Kraev and Judy Chen, Center for Economic Policy and Research, August 2001.back
- Maude Barlow, Water as Commodity - The Wrong Prescription, The Institute for Food and Development Policy, Backgrounder, Summer 2001, Vol. 7, No. 3back
- Consumerism, Volunteer Now! (undated) back
Edited by medicineman, 15 November 2008 - 03:46 PM.
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