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#31 mross

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:25 PM

While it's not a supplement I suggest trying Kefir. Not the kind you buy in the store but the kind where you get the "mushrooms" and make your own. I am Lactose intolerant and need lactose enzyme for any kind of cheese or milk. Since drinking kefir for awhile now I no longer need it. I had extra cultures and gave them to friends who had stomach problems and they reported similiar results, lessing to eliminating symptoms.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:46 PM

I just ordered the DGL, DigestRC, more D-Limonene, Culturelle and NAG. Now my stack looks like this

L-Glutamine
BioGenesis Para Biotic Plus
Culturelle
NOW Gr8-Dopholis
L-Salivarius
DGL chews
NAG
Digest RC
Zinc-Carnosine
D-Limonene
20mg Protonix (like Prilosec)

My stomach has been a source of my misery since I was 7 or 8 years old. I ain't playing around no more.

Edited by OneScrewLoose, 13 November 2008 - 09:47 PM.


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#33 tham

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 05:21 PM

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#34 Lufega

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:54 PM

I never paid much mind to digestion and my gut as the source of problem. Regardless, I have always consumed lots of yogurt and kefir I even make my own sometimes...fatty and delicious.

I read this article about Gut dysbiosis and it blew me away. It linked every singly ailment that's been plaguing me.

http://www.becomehea...attachmentid=57

I've also used a probiotic L.reuteri from BIOGAIA from time to time. My mother cured her H. pylori infection just using this. Pretty good stuff. Right now I am overrun by candida and I'm looking at options that colonize better.

I made my own kefir for a while. I bought the grains through amazon. I noticed that after using Kefir made with raw milk for a few months I can now tolerate dairy alot better. I know raw milk has bacteria that partially digest lactose but even when I drink pasteurized milk, I am still ok.

I never made the connection but it seems Mross experienced the same. Interesting.

#35 OneScrewLoose

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:32 PM

I never paid much mind to digestion and my gut as the source of problem. Regardless, I have always consumed lots of yogurt and kefir I even make my own sometimes...fatty and delicious.

I read this article about Gut dysbiosis and it blew me away. It linked every singly ailment that's been plaguing me.

http://www.becomehea...attachmentid=57

I've also used a probiotic L.reuteri from BIOGAIA from time to time. My mother cured her H. pylori infection just using this. Pretty good stuff. Right now I am overrun by candida and I'm looking at options that colonize better.

I made my own kefir for a while. I bought the grains through amazon. I noticed that after using Kefir made with raw milk for a few months I can now tolerate dairy alot better. I know raw milk has bacteria that partially digest lactose but even when I drink pasteurized milk, I am still ok.

I never made the connection but it seems Mross experienced the same. Interesting.


I really think my alt. medicine doctor was right when he said my stomach is the source of my anxiety, and that it so so damaged that it is numb. Beyond the undiagnosed celiac disease for 10 years (extremely, extremely painful), he said I have the worst H. Pylori infection he's ever seen. Though I am a little weary of his diagnosis being that he used applied kinesiology to diagnose it (anyone have any experience with that), and that both a stool test and blood test for h. pylori came up negative. But he was able to diagnose me with a hietal hernia (which I have been diagnosed with) without me saying anything, which was pretty impressive...but regardless of weather it's h. pylori or not, my stomach has been ****ed up for most of my life. With this latest batch of supps I am taking for my stomach, I am feeling much, much better. I even slept pretty decent last night.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:28 PM

Beyond the undiagnosed celiac disease for 10 years (extremely, extremely painful), he said I have the worst H. Pylori infection he's ever seen. Though I am a little weary of his diagnosis being that he used applied kinesiology to diagnose it (anyone have any experience with that), and that both a stool test and blood test for h. pylori came up negative.


I would be wary too. How was the celiac disease diagnosed? I hope not with applied kinesiology.

http://www.quackwatc...s/Tests/ak.html

Research Findings

Although the claims of applied kinesiology are so far removed from scientific reality that testing them might seem a waste of time, competent researchers have subjected the muscle-testing procedures to several well-designed controlled tests and demonstrated what should be obvious to rational persons. Some have found no difference in muscle response from one substance to another, while others have found no difference between the results with test substances and with placebos. One study, for example, found that three practitioners testing eleven subjects made significantly different assessments; their diagnoses of nutritional deficiencies did not correspond to the nutrient levels obtain by blood serum analysis; and that the responses to nutrient substances did not significantly differ from responses to placebos [9]. Another study found no effect from administering the nutrients "expected" to strengthen a muscle diagnosed as "weak" by AK practitioners." [10] Other researchers who conducted an elaborate double-blind trial concluded that "muscle response appeared to be a random phenomenon." [11] Another study showed that suggestion can influence the outcome of muscle-testing. During part of this experiment, college students were told that chewing M&M candies would give them instant energy that would probably make them test stronger. Five out of nine did so [12]. In yet another study, four AK practitioners tested seven patieents who were extremely sensitive to wasp venom. Altogether, 140 muscle tests were done to see how the patients responded to preparations of venom or salt water in a bottle. If the test were valid, the venom bottles should result in "strong" reactions and the salt-water bottles should produce "weak" test reactions. However, the practitioners were unable to identify which bottles contained which [13].


Edited by FunkOdyssey, 17 November 2008 - 08:33 PM.


#37 mross

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 07:33 PM

Here is a little more on Kefir from kefir net;

"...but they contain different types of beneficial bacteria. Yogurt contains transient beneficial bacteria that keep the digestive system clean and provide food for the friendly bacteria that reside there. But kefir can actually colonize the intestinal tract, a feat that yogurt cannot match.

Kefir contains several major strains of friendly bacteria not commonly found in yogurt, Lactobacillus Caucasus, Leuconostoc, Acetobacter species, and Streptococcus species.

It also contains beneficial yeasts, such as Saccharomyces kefir and Torula kefir, which dominate, control and eliminate destructive pathogenic yeasts in the body. They do so by penetrating the mucosal lining where unhealthy yeast and bacteria reside, forming a virtual SWAT team that housecleans and strengthens the intestines. Hence, the body becomes more efficient in resisting such pathogens as E. coli and intestinal parasites.

Kefir's active yeast and bacteria provide more nutritive value than yogurt by helping digest the foods that you eat and by keeping the colon environment clean and healthy.

Because the curd size of kefir is smaller than yogurt, it is also easier to digest, which makes it a particularly excellent, nutritious food for babies, invalids and the elderly, as well as a remedy for digestive disorders. "
This qoute can ge found here; http://www.kefir.net/ This gives some idea of the bacteria found in kefir. I was taking a probiotic but stopped as this was a more cost efficent way to do it.




#38 OneScrewLoose

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:57 AM

My celiac disease was diagnosed at enterolab.com. So, that's pretty straight forward.

Whether or not I have h. pylori, I think he was right about my stomach effecting my stress. And I was very impressed that he could find my hiatal hernia by just feeling me.

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Posted 01 January 2023 - 02:10 AM

ulcers can be caused by bacteria so it can happen anywhere in the gut 






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