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#121 MissM

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:04 PM

I actually tried it with coconut oil, which was awfully oily. I will have to try it with the coco butter. Don't think they are the same thing, as coco butter is from chocolate. I got my coconut oil from the grocery store.

would extra virgin coconut-oil make a good foundation for a resv-skin-cream?
today i mixed one quarter teaspoon 98% resv with a dab of coconut-oil and it seems to go right in, leaving no residue.
is that possible???

Coco-butter or was it really coconut oil? which i'm not familiar with.


i should have said cocoa-butter, it's just that in germany they call it 'kokosoel', but it is definitely butter.
i did it once more before going to sleep, and woke up with a face softer that a baby's bottom.
and it seems to really absorb, because there is no residue whatsoever.


Emu oil is supposed to be a natural liposomal. It may enhance the absorption of anything it is mixed with. You need to get high quality odor free emu oil.


got that too and have to say, the coco-butter absorbs better. emu-oil stays shiny for a long time, and after a while i can still wipe some of, that didn't absorb.
could be the brand though.



#122 drunkfunk

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:23 PM

Don't think they are the same thing, as coco butter is from chocolate.


i think you mean cocoA-butter, which indeed is something totally different.
i'm talking about coconut-butter, which is made from 100% virgin coconut-'meat', cold pressed.
i guess in some countries they just say oil instead of butter, like in germany.
if you happen to live there, get the 'nativ kokosoel' from bio-planete, its so yummy.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:31 AM

Yes, I was thinking they were two totally different things. I guess I don't have to go out and buy coco (a) butter, since the coconut oil was was I used. Mine was "expeller pressed" organic coconut oil. It was very difficult to find coconut oil here, (San Diego) let alone extra virgin. it is solidified when you buy it, and it does indeed look very buttery. I thought it was pretty greasy, but maybe I used too much. if I ever run across the "kokosoel" I'll be sure to buy it. You would think that we would have more of a selection being so close to Hawaii.


Don't think they are the same thing, as coco butter is from chocolate.


i think you mean cocoA-butter, which indeed is something totally different.
i'm talking about coconut-butter, which is made from 100% virgin coconut-'meat', cold pressed.
i guess in some countries they just say oil instead of butter, like in germany.
if you happen to live there, get the 'nativ kokosoel' from bio-planete, its so yummy.



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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:44 AM

Yes, I was thinking they were two totally different things. I guess I don't have to go out and buy coco (a) butter, since the coconut oil was was I used. Mine was "expeller pressed" organic coconut oil. It was very difficult to find coconut oil here, (San Diego) let alone extra virgin. it is solidified when you buy it, and it does indeed look very buttery. I thought it was pretty greasy, but maybe I used too much. if I ever run across the "kokosoel" I'll be sure to buy it. You would think that we would have more of a selection being so close to Hawaii.


MissM, you might have used too much, i use a little dab, probably not more than a half a tea-spoon, and mix that with a quarter tea-spoon of resv, which makes a thick, white lotion and use that on my whole face and neck. after maximum 10 minutes it's gone, no grease whatsoever.

now, i've been doin it for a couple of days, so it's too early to tell, but i must say, my skin looks way softer (and IS softer), crows-feet are not as pronounced and pores seem smaller.
could someone explain to me, by which mechanisms resv could be so beneficial for the skin? or is it the cocobutter? placebo (wishful thinking)?

#125 MissM

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:46 PM

Half a teaspoon seems a lot, but I didn't use nearly as much Rsv as you did, so maybe the Rsv has an absorptive effect. I will try it with more Rsv. I couldn't find a definitive study that talks about Rsv and collagen, but here is what I found on a skincare website:


Resveratrol, an antioxidant found in grapes and red wines


Resveratrol, has proven to be highly effective in improving the skins elasticity and firmness. It is is an antibiotic produced by plants when under attack by bacteria, fungi and other substances that can cause disease or illness.

The much-acclaimed phenomenon of the "French Paradox", whereby much lower incidents of skin cancer and heart disease, than anticipated, are reported, would appear to have much to do with wine and in particular Red wine. In laboratory conditions, data clearly demonstrated that topical application of resveratrol resulted in a highly significant inhibition of tumor incidence.

As well as being proven beneficial for the heart it also reduces the formation of blood clots, it opens arteries, helps prevent cancer and importantly is an anti-oxidant.

Resveratrol, is an exceptional free-radical scavenger extracted primarily from mulberries and grapes. Clinical studies show that resveratrol protects collagen through two mechanisms: 1) by inhibiting enzymes that degrade collagen, and 2) by supporting existing collagen structures.



Earlier in this thread Eugenius has posted his experiences with topical rsv. He feels that it makes wrinkles disappear quickly.

Yes, I was thinking they were two totally different things. I guess I don't have to go out and buy coco (a) butter, since the coconut oil was was I used. Mine was "expeller pressed" organic coconut oil. It was very difficult to find coconut oil here, (San Diego) let alone extra virgin. it is solidified when you buy it, and it does indeed look very buttery. I thought it was pretty greasy, but maybe I used too much. if I ever run across the "kokosoel" I'll be sure to buy it. You would think that we would have more of a selection being so close to Hawaii.


MissM, you might have used too much, i use a little dab, probably not more than a half a tea-spoon, and mix that with a quarter tea-spoon of resv, which makes a thick, white lotion and use that on my whole face and neck. after maximum 10 minutes it's gone, no grease whatsoever.

now, i've been doin it for a couple of days, so it's too early to tell, but i must say, my skin looks way softer (and IS softer), crows-feet are not as pronounced and pores seem smaller.
could someone explain to me, by which mechanisms resv could be so beneficial for the skin? or is it the cocobutter? placebo (wishful thinking)?



#126 2tender

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 04:45 AM

In 3 months of RSV use, Ive lost 13 lbs, largely on the stomach and buttocks: that is not placebo by any means. What may be placebo is: enhanced stamina, feelings of well being, decreased prominence of facial lines and wrinkles, increased muscle tone (without exercise) more restful sleep. Yes I do look a bit younger!

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:24 PM

I've never had anyone in the past 2 years or so tell me that I look younger than I did 2 years ago when I started taking resveratrol. I frequently have people seriously underestimate my age (by ten years or possibly more). I'm 49, and despite what geddarkstorm said in post #29, most people are used to being able to easily tell the difference between someone in his early 20s and someone in his late 40s. Friends who see me every day, and friends who see me infrequently, have both claimed that I look not too much older (even "exactly the same") as I did decades ago, and strangers sometimes say "You can't be that old" when I say something that dates myself. It happens every once in a while, and naturally I like to remember it when it does. The last time was a week ago, from a stranger.

I discount this, because people want to me nice. Even if no one ever lies, let's say that people make random errors about my age. The half that overestimate will keep quite rather than blurting "I thought you were much older than that." So there's a reporting bias. More convincing is that when visiting LA in my early 40's, I was frequently offered tickets for a free screening for movies looking for test audiences in a certain demographic. The one time I was able to take the ticket and it mentioned the demographic they were targeting, the upper bound was something like 35 or 39. So that's one case, maybe several, where my age was underestimated by a stranger whose job it was to estimate the age of passers-by and stop them. Politeness can't be a factor there, so that's a more meaningful datapoint than any of my other anecdotal evidence. Then again, I dress in jeans and a T-shirt, exactly as I did when I was a student, which may mislead people, and the styles of that have not changed enough to make my generation obvious.

There's no reason to think any of this has to do with taking resveratrol for 2.5 years, since I've been taking so many other supplements, eating healthful foods, and getting exercise, since my 20's or earlier.

I think almost everyone in my family looks younger than their chronological ages, so I may also be lucky genetically.

I have several reasons for wanting to look younger. One of them is that I hope it reflects that I'm aging more slowly inside and will still be around as new breakthroughs are made. For that reason, I tend to buy pills and not creams, and the only purely cosmetic thing I do (by which I mean artifice, as opposed to something like minoxidyl to keep my hair) is to occasionally dye my beard. There's one patch that has turned gray, right where I always stressed it by tugging on it, and lately a few gray threads elsewhere. I haven't decided yet whether to do anything about my head hair when the gray starts to become noticeable.

#128 why925

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:32 AM

I come across this proprietary nutrient delivery system that enable the highest possible absorption. Up to 98% absorption.

I have tried the anti-aging (cellular renewal - antioxidants) which have have Acai ingredient in it. It has great tasting. It's key ingredient Resveratrol (http://tinyurl.com/nutrition-ImmInst) featured in over 2,000 research publications, has been shown to activate the "Anti-Aging Gene" and is creating tremedous excitement in cellular excitement in cellular health studies worldwide.

I am looking at some research or reports that verify for intra-oral spray has up to 98% absorption. Can anyone assist? Thanks in advance.

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Edited by Brainbox, 12 July 2009 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2009 - 06:33 AM

Found totally by accident, that topical Resv may possibly get rid of hyperpigmentation. I say may, since it could have even been the inexpensive face cream that I was mixing it with. Dunno.... At this point I say who cares which caused it.

I have some really tiny, raised flat spots on the back of each of my hands. The larger they get, the darker they get. I once froze off a couple of the larger ones with wart stuff. I don't know what they are. Perhaps age spots?

Anyways, I have been putting my face cream mixture on the back of my hands. And most of the tiny raised hyperpigmented spots have lost their color. My right hand has no discolorations at all now! And my left has two 1 mm spots that you can barely see if you look REALLY close. Basically to on onlooker, the back of my hands have no imperfections.

It also seems like the spots are getting smaller. But that may be due to the lightening affect making them appear smaller. I am doing an experiment with a larger dark one (measures 1/8 inch long) that I found on my arm. I pride myself on my flawless complexion, and was aghast to find that large one in an inconspicuous spot. :( Anyways, I will be applying my cream daily to that spot. To see just what happens. Fingers crossed...

This affect was totally unexpected. And even though I was doing this for perhaps a couple of weeks, yesterday something odd happened. A couple of hours after I applied the cream, all the raised spots turned pinkish for a few hours. Nothing else turned pink. Odddd.... Unless it has been happening all along, and I never noticed it.

As for my face, I feel my Resv and face cream mixture does my face good. The liquid resv thins down what would have been a too heavy of a face cream. It is the most perfect face cream that I have ever used. And it works well. The skin on my face has never looked better. My upper chest area always breaks out with moisturizer, but not with this mixture.

I am no longer a face cream purchasing junkie. I have finally found Nirvana.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 12:14 AM

@katrina: would be interesting to read what basis creams you used, how much resveratrol you mixed in...

Edited by eugenius, 15 July 2009 - 12:16 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2009 - 12:47 AM

Last week I "managed" to fall asleep on the beach under the unmerciful midday sun of Italy. I got really, really red and was expecting sleepless nights. Of course I applied generous amounts of resv cream and all was all right. In the context of this forum my experience looks quite banal but then and there, with my skin burning red and wife &friends insisting on driving to the hospital, it looked anything else then just banal.

If your skin is not used with strong sunshine keep in mind to prepare at least some moisturiser + resv for holiday. It might make a huge difference.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 12:55 AM

Last week I "managed" to fall asleep on the beach under the unmerciful midday sun of Italy. I got really, really red and was expecting sleepless nights. Of course I applied generous amounts of resv cream and all was all right. In the context of this forum my experience looks quite banal but then and there, with my skin burning red and wife &friends insisting on driving to the hospital, it looked anything else then just banal.

If your skin is not used with strong sunshine keep in mind to prepare at least some moisturiser + resv for holiday. It might make a huge difference.


I use a resveratrol cream probably very similar to Eugenius, daily application to the body after showering.

I've had a similar experience, on a beach under the tropical sun in the middle of the Pacific. Forgot the suntan lotion until after I'd been swimming. You can burn in the water. My shoulders were red, but no pain, and my skin quickly turned normal, but somewhat darker. I expected to suffer painfully based on past experience.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 02:26 AM

I've never had anyone in the past 2 years or so tell me that I look younger than I did 2 years ago when I started taking resveratrol. I frequently have people seriously underestimate my age (by ten years or possibly more). I'm 49, and despite what geddarkstorm said in post #29, most people are used to being able to easily tell the difference between someone in his early 20s and someone in his late 40s. Friends who see me every day, and friends who see me infrequently, have both claimed that I look not too much older (even "exactly the same") as I did decades ago, and strangers sometimes say "You can't be that old" when I say something that dates myself. It happens every once in a while, and naturally I like to remember it when it does. The last time was a week ago, from a stranger.


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Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:19 AM

Photo ?


IMO makes no sense to ask someone to post his photos. He has nothing to win from telling lies and therefor you have no reason to mistrust what he is reporting. If you choose not to trust someone then no matter what amount of "evidences" you can always find a pretext for mistrust.
For example, he posts his before&after photos and then you may suspect that they were tuned a bit with photoshop or picasa. Even if the photos were taken in front of a judge, how can you exclude a conspiracy?! :|o

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 03:59 AM

IMO makes no sense to ask someone to post his photos. He has nothing to win from telling lies and therefor you have no reason to mistrust what he is reporting. If you choose not to trust someone then no matter what amount of "evidences" you can always find a pretext for mistrust.
For example, he posts his before&after photos and then you may suspect that they were tuned a bit with photoshop or picasa. Even if the photos were taken in front of a judge, how can you exclude a conspiracy?! ;)

I was just curious, nothing malevolent ... but continue on with supposing that you know what I'd be thinking. :)

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 04:48 AM

@katrina: would be interesting to read what basis creams you used, how much resveratrol you mixed in...


Actually, I posted the brand in this very thread. But I don't think they like you to mention brands. Since they moved my post here. My face cream Lottsa yummy ingredients in that cream.

Anyways, someone here on this forum told me that they had the very same thing happen to them with hyper pigmented spots of varying types.

Myself, I really hated to make such a flat out claim, since I could be proven wrong and be made to look like a fool. But I am 100% certain, it really did happen, so try it yourself. :) I do have skin that heals better than most folks. My post surgical scars are barely perceptable.

Oh, the recipe... I took an old, and freshly washed face cream jar. Added 1 liquid resv capsule. And added my face cream until it seemed the right consistency. Sorry, I didn't measure anything. Considering I work in a laboratory, that seems a bit irionic. ;) Anyways don't make up too much at once, since it turns yellow over time. Although I still used it.

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 05:10 PM

I'm curious... For those people who have noticed a change in their skin when using some sort of topically applied resveratrol, how long did it take before the changes were noticed? I'm speaking of any and all changes, whether those are reduced wrinkles, smoother texture, thicker skin or affect on skin growths.

Thanks,
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 06:13 PM

Also, regarding the whole vitamin D discussion, I would like to second that people look into adding vitamin K2. I am favorable to the MK-4 variety, but others feel that MK-7 is better. Here is an imminst thread on that subject as well.

David




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