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[brokenportal]

Vgamer, I tried to respond in your somethingawful topics but it says I have to pay to join that forum. Is there no free account? I dont see one.

[b0gger]

I just responded to the Steve Jobs video. By the way bOgger, how did you get that video to embed starting at a certain point in the video? I ddint know you could do that.

1. you copy url (notice URL at the top left of the page under the channel logo, time the video was published and info, above Embed)
2. when you have it paste you type in #t=3m30 (that means you want to set 3 minutes 30 sec)
3. http://www.youtube.c...0emEGShQ#t=3m30

Opps. I am not sure I can submit that vid there. I never submitted a video before as answer, but I think it have to be uploaded to my channel first, that means it should be less then 10 minutes long, and this is one hour, I have to investigate.

Edited by b0gger, 29 October 2009 - 12:24 PM.

[Vgamer1]

http://forums.someth...hreadid=3230392

[Vgamer1]

Vgamer, I tried to respond in your somethingawful topics but it says I have to pay to join that forum. Is there no free account? I dont see one.

No, there is no free account for posting. The forums cost $10 for lifetime membership, but you MUST read all the rules carefully or you lose your posting privileges.

[brokenportal]

Alright, Ive gone in to numbers 4, 9, and 13 in the main list here, (main lists are updated in the topic of each of these internetworking team pinned topics,) and Ive responded to the discussion at hand and given them the vote links for the Chase Giveaway contest.

So Ive also got my three in for the month for this team. Remember all, to be on this team let us know, we put you on a memo list. You then only have to make 3 contributions per month minimum to be entered in the prize drawing, but you dont even have to do that.

[exapted]

I posted in:
7. http://www.physicsfo...951#post2123951 - In what ways can biology create indefinite lifespans?
32. http://www.genmay.co...ad.php?t=814702

I started to reply to 3. Transhumanist Myths, and I had a really good rebuttal to the post, but I discovered that the thread is quite old and they don't want me to reply to it. I also discovered that I was already a user at that forum, so I posted the following new thread:
http://www.freeratio...d.php?p=6216081

[The Immortalist]

posted in Gaiaonline
Who here has heard of the Healthy life Extension Movement? http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966493/

Made the exact same post on Gaiaonline but in a different section of the forum.
http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966735/

Posted on the IGN boards. (same post as the one above except in different forum)

http://boards.ign.co...ostTopicSuccess

IGN Board/ in a different section of the forum http://boards.ign.co...ostTopicSuccess



I think that's enough for today, if I post on too many forums i won't be able to keep track of all the replies I get!

Edited by The Immortalist, 18 January 2010 - 03:20 AM.

[The Immortalist]

People I really need some back up. Please support me on this thread and provide some information. I'm kind of being backed up in this argument i'm having. http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966493/

Please help me with this so that I can have something to say to someone whenever some deathist brings up this sort of argument.

Even though I know it is useless to argue with people that won't listen, and I know I sound like a stupid human saying this but I just hate losing arguments, and I'm not about to lose this one for a cause I love so much.

lol I need to get more sources on hand and practice my debating skills better.

Edited by The Immortalist, 18 January 2010 - 08:05 AM.

[The Immortalist]

Gaia Online....again!
Have you ever wanted to find the cure to aging?
http://www.gaiaonlin...ing/t.57970023/

I was experimenting the reactions I got on diferent forums whenever I was subtle and said the movement was for Making seniors lives better and more healthy, And putting the prospect of Immortality right in there faces. So far I've been getting more positive discussion with the direct approach. I may be wrong and it could be some coincidence, I don't know. Let's all experiment with subtle approaches and direct approaches and see which one works better.

[The Immortalist]

Lets all make a masterpiece thread starter paragraph together. Ill add a few different paragraphs of my own and see what you all think of them.

Paragraph 1:

Title: Who here has heard of the healthy life extension movement.

Who here has heard of the Healthy life Extension Movement? It is a cause that is trying to get more funding into research that will make it so that humans will be able to live longer and lead more productive lives when they are older.

The Methuselah Foundation is the leading medical charity at the forefront of this cause, another person leading the the cause is a man named Dr Aubrey De Grey, a biomedical Gerontologist from Cambridge university. He has developed SENS an engineering approach to repair the damage caused by the aging process.

Please I want to here your thoughts about this. It is a very worthwhile cause because when you are older (age 70-100) do you want to be functionless? Do you want to have dementia? Do you want to have an age related disease that will kill you both slowly and painfully?

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Paragraph 2:

Title: Have you ever wanted to find the cure to aging?
Have any of you heard about the Indefinite healthy lifespan movement going on these days?
Have any of you wanted there to be a cure to aging so we can have indefinite lifespans and so that we do not age?

Lets discuss this topic, I want to here everyone's thoughts and opinions on this topic.

[brokenportal]

Dont start too many of your own in one forum. They will be more likely to count it as spam. You want to avoid spamming at all. You dont really want to name drop at all. You just want to chat about the cause in general, the concept, and name drop if its a natural part of the discussion later.

Heres another example of something I might try as a topic in another forum, you want to adapt it to the section you put it in as well. For example in a World News section:

"Hello, There is a cause picking up in these advancing times, that is working to create indefinite healthy lifespans for people. Its already been in the news. I think its going to go global soon. This is a poll of sorts, I wonder how many people we may see here that have already heard of it. Maybe it is already truly world wide news."

In a lifestyle sort of section I might write:

"So, it seems me that the most important prerequisite to keeping up the best lifestyle that you can, which I assume we all want, is to maintain our lives themselves. After all we can jog around mountains and keep our asthma under control or whatever it may be if we're dead. To that end I support the growing cause to help gain us all indefinite healthy life extension. Just wanted to put that out there. I feel like its the number one lifestyle rule of thumb, yet so sorely underrated as of yet."

In an off topic or lounge type section I might write:

"Have you guys heard of the indefinite life extension movement? In this rapidly advancing tech era researchers are now working on creating indefinite healthy life extension. Thats more time to do (inser premise of the forum here, photography, gaming, collecting, whatever) and who wouldnt want that?"

Then later inject anecdotes about the forum at hand. If its a photography forum and you like photoghraphy then write something like, "I mean, In the future Im sure we have so much more technology and be able to harness so much more of existence, I dont want to miss out on a chance to take pictures on Mars or wherever if I dont have to." or even if you dont like photography you could be like, "I dont really like photography per say, but I support everybodies right to keep it up." or whatever.

Dont worry about getting back up right now. Dont even worry about keeping those discussions up. Part of the point of this is that as we bring more and more people on board they will be able to go and harness those. Right now we are kind of in a pin setting stage, we set them up for the time in the coming year or 3 when people will be coming in in larger numbers and we'll be directing them to projects and pins like these to knock down.

This is also a good place for you to test out those pro aging trance techniques, and plain old informing techniques and see which work best. We can teach you over time. The best thing to do is to avoid arguing, people usually take the devils advocate side. Even if you tried to argue to a person they were cool you would get many who would play the devils advocate. It seems that what works best is to inform them, try to leave as little room for them to inject their opinions as possible. Use appeals to authority, like tell them about all the media appearances and conferences and books and stuff.

Sometimes you have to mix in a little argument to keep the discussion rolling, it can be a tricky balance.

[The Immortalist]

Posted in The Runescape Forums. (Healthy Life Extension) http://services.rune...8,60255682,bump

[AgeVivo]

People I really need some back up. Please support me on this thread and provide some information. I'm kind of being backed up in this argument i'm having. http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966493/

Please help me with this so that I can have something to say to someone whenever some deathist brings up this sort of argument.

Even though I know it is useless to argue with people that won't listen, and I know I sound like a stupid human saying this but I just hate losing arguments, and I'm not about to lose this one for a cause I love so much.

Great job. IMO you made only one real mistake, but you made it from the very beginning till the end: trying to oppose Aubrey de Grey and SENS to other healthy life extension research. Based on which evidence??? With current SENS results, so far it's really a dead-end argumentation. Some objections you got say it clearly and very respectfully, and those people listened to you more than you listened to them perhaps.

Don't believe in everything you read just because some University scientists say Aubrey's wrong. They are just human. They have their own opinions and you shouldn't let the opinions of others influence your disision making.

This is dangerous kool-aid you're giving us here.

If someone objects, the proper thing to do is to ANSWER the objection. If you ignore objections just because they don't "suite" your purpose, you become isolated from the truth.

And the most important question in any medical field.

"DOES IT WORK?"

I posted something in between, hopefully it'll help.

Edited by AgeVivo, 23 January 2010 - 11:26 AM.

[CerebralCortex]

People I really need some back up. Please support me on this thread and provide some information. I'm kind of being backed up in this argument i'm having. http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966493/

Please help me with this so that I can have something to say to someone whenever some deathist brings up this sort of argument.

Even though I know it is useless to argue with people that won't listen, and I know I sound like a stupid human saying this but I just hate losing arguments, and I'm not about to lose this one for a cause I love so much.

Great job. IMO you made only one real mistake, but you made it from the very beginning till the end: trying to oppose Aubrey de Grey and SENS to other healthy life extension research. Based on which evidence??? With current SENS results, so far it's really a dead-end argumentation. Some objections you got say it clearly and very respectfully, and those people listened to you more than you listened to them perhaps.

Don't believe in everything you read just because some University scientists say Aubrey's wrong. They are just human. They have their own opinions and you shouldn't let the opinions of others influence your disision making.

This is dangerous kool-aid you're giving us here.

If someone objects, the proper thing to do is to ANSWER the objection. If you ignore objections just because they don't "suite" your purpose, you become isolated from the truth.

And the most important question in any medical field.

"DOES IT WORK?"

I posted something in between, hopefully it'll help.

I jumped in too I couldn't resist Golden Dysprosium is just so wrong and ignorant to boot! I had to post as CosmicEngineer someone already had my name :(

[Vgamer1]

http://mindtransfer.net/forum/

[CerebralCortex]

Hey guys it's a good idea to shorten your links using tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ so that they don't get nroken in the posting process.

[CerebralCortex]

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Everything before this breaker has been edited in to the topic.

[rwallace]

http://andrewgbiggs....sus-health.html

I posted a comment (which apparently will show up once the blog owner has cleared it as not spam):

"I agree, though there is a more fundamental sense in which they are aspects of the same problem: <i>Medicine is expensive when it doesn't really work.</i> Consider the cost of keeping a polio victim not-dead for a year in an iron lung. Now consider the pocket-change cost of a polio vaccine per life saved.

What we need to be doing is focusing more resources on developing medical treatment that can actually cure the collection of degenerative diseases associated with age (for which the most promising area is nanotechnology, by some definitions of a somewhat overloaded word), rather than spending almost all our medical resources on treatments that unfortunately are not able to cure the patient."

[CerebralCortex]

This one needs to be looked at asap http://www.guardian....cal-immortality

"1. After a few hundred years, wouldn't you be bored... to death?
2. Doesn't the value of life stems from the fact that it is finite, in a way? I would worry that with the promise of immortality, life in essence would cease to be so mysterious and desirable."

:'(

[brokenportal]

I added some supporting responses here:

http://www.volconvo....inite-life.html

[brokenportal]

Here are 3 topics I found in a new forum, the James Randi Educational Foundation. They are all three about Aubrey. I added responses in support of indefinite life extension in them.

Remember, its the adding of responses of support that this is all about. Many of those discussions about this cause around the internet, if there even are any in a given web site, are filled with trolls and negative, flippant, capricious, word spits. When we lend them a message or two of support it can mean all the difference in the world. I would be willing to bet that it means all the difference in the world every single time you do.

Also remember, do not spam. We are not looking for support of any organization or link or anything. We are simply there to support the idea of the cause, the movement, in general. If there is a natural opening to link them, then do, but do not spam.


http://forums.randi....ad.php?t=140075

http://forums.randi....ad.php?t=138638

http://forums.randi....ad.php?t=128435

[brokenportal]

I added more responses to the last three links there. *nudge nudge* Anybody want to lend another hand in there?

We have been building links, and doing some of this continuous response to help keep discussions going about the cause on the internet. This is the essence of the INW team here. The links are there. Its a veritable gold mine for spreading the word. If we can attract one or two of the brightest minds from forums and places around the net to get into the movement for indefinite life extension then that will be a huge success. Even just a few dozen more active people around here is probably going to launch us to exponentially higher levels.

This reminds me of #6 of 7 habits for success which is "synergy". The principle includes that 2 minds are usually much better than the sum of 2 minds individually. Or for example, 1 board can hold x amount of weight, but if you have 2 they hold more than x + x in weight.

A couple dozen more active intelligent people around here, a lot more progress, and just a little work in the INW team is helping to make that happen.

[brokenportal]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=140075

http://forums.randi....ad.php?t=138638

http://forums.randi....ad.php?t=128435

I responded to these 3 again. Its going excellently in there. I dont know how you guys are fairing in your outside forum discussions, but if you want some guidance check out the flow there. One good tip, in any forum, is figure out who the nit picking argumentalists for the sake of it are and dont respond to them, or if you must, then respond with out direct quote or response to them, but just supply the information that doesnt let their comment harm the cause.

Im about to go into Volconovo now, so that will be 4. Lets do this, team, do stuff, this team works, and is only getting bigger and better, slowly but surely.

[The Immortalist]

jla forums http://www.jlaforums...513793#54513793 (topic name: Indefinite Healthy Life extension. The main goal of medicine )

Webrats forum http://forums.webrat...532#post3447532 (topic name: Do you support the Movement for Indefinite Healthy life Extension?)


Made some supporting comments here in volconvo as username Milliardo. http://www.volconvo....ite-life-4.html

That's my three contributions to the team this month. I'm going to do more though.

Edited by The MILE/The Immortalist, 07 July 2010 - 09:40 AM.

[The Immortalist]

Student doctor network forums./ http://forums.studen...ad.php?t=745011 (topic name: Do you support the Movement for Indefinite Healthy life Extension?)

Runescape forums( Topic name:Do you support the Movement for Indefinite Healthy life Extension? http://services.rune...24,969,61268233

Edited by The MILE/The Immortalist, 07 July 2010 - 09:49 AM.

[The Immortalist]

Made some comments in already created threads in:
http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966735/

and

http://boards.ign.co...ostReplySuccess

[brokenportal]

I created two more topic in two new forums listed here, and the other is a response I made to an old topic in jla.


http://www.atheist.i....php?f=1&t=3759
http://www.freethink...opic,150.0.html
http://www.jlaforums...326323#55326323

[The Immortalist]

people, don't forget to sign up to youtube and comment videos.

[brokenportal]

I just responded here:
http://www.gaiaonlin...ent/t.57966735/

[brokenportal]

and here

http://boards.ign.co...ostReplySuccess