Centrophenoxine vs DMAE
Johann 30 Nov 2009
better?
nito 30 Nov 2009
Pike 01 Dec 2009
centro was my first nootropic (along w/piracetam). it has made its way back into my regimen, and i think i'll be keeping it there. i take 250mg in the morning w/breakfast. when i first used it, i was using it rather haphazardly and experimented its use for different activities. turned out to be a great work-out supplement!
Edited by Pike, 01 December 2009 - 01:53 PM.
nito 01 Dec 2009
DMAE is okay. it's like comparing chef boyardee's overstuffed beef ravioli to homemade fettucini alfredo. both are mouthwatering and delicious, but one simply cannot be compared to the other.
centro was my first nootropic (along w/piracetam). it has made its way back into my regimen, and i think i'll be keeping it there. i take 250mg in the morning w/breakfast. when i first used it, i was using it rather haphazardly and experimented its use for different activities. turned out to be a great work-out supplement!
So u prefer centro? Isent it much more expensive than DMAE though?
Imagination 01 Dec 2009
Algear Linebra 02 Dec 2009
acantelopepope 02 Dec 2009
Centrophenoxine is really only better for the "life extensionists" IMO, as it removes more "lipofuscin."
And it tastes like ass.
nito 02 Dec 2009
I actually find DMAE better, and I would reject said pasta analogy. lol.
Centrophenoxine is really only better for the "life extensionists" IMO, as it removes more "lipofuscin."
And it tastes like ass.
Could you give me a good source for dmae where i could buy it please?
immortali457 02 Dec 2009
I actually find DMAE better, and I would reject said pasta analogy. lol.
Centrophenoxine is really only better for the "life extensionists" IMO, as it removes more "lipofuscin."
And it tastes like ass.
Could you give me a good source for dmae where i could buy it please?
I've been using the powder from beyondacentury for many years now. Great stuff and great price.
nito 02 Dec 2009
I actually find DMAE better, and I would reject said pasta analogy. lol.
Centrophenoxine is really only better for the "life extensionists" IMO, as it removes more "lipofuscin."
And it tastes like ass.
Could you give me a good source for dmae where i could buy it please?
I've been using the powder from beyondacentury for many years now. Great stuff and great price.
Oh thanks. Is powder more powerful than the pill?
acantelopepope 02 Dec 2009
I actually find DMAE better, and I would reject said pasta analogy. lol.
Centrophenoxine is really only better for the "life extensionists" IMO, as it removes more "lipofuscin."
And it tastes like ass.
Could you give me a good source for dmae where i could buy it please?
I've been using the powder from beyondacentury for many years now. Great stuff and great price.
Oh thanks. Is powder more powerful than the pill?
Bulknutrition has always been okay to me, and it's cheap. Powder is more cost effective, it has nothing to do with efficacy. Just take it in tomato juice or lemonade (minute maid works well).
Remember that 1g DMAE citrate = 333mg actual DMAE
Imagination 02 Dec 2009
I picked up some bulk stuff, it was a lot cheaper and it's definately as effective as the caps I was taking.
nito 02 Dec 2009
http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=8192
The name cracked me up lol...but the ingridients look good, it could potentially be effective, who knows. No reviews yet as i assume it's a new product. Share your views on it
pycnogenol 02 Dec 2009
hahahaha u want some swagger? Then try these Swagger pills!
http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=8192
The name cracked me up lol...but the ingridients look good, it could potentially be effective, who knows.
No reviews yet as i assume it's a new product. Share your views on it
Funny. It's also Out of Stock. Thank goodness for that!
Edited by pycnogenol, 02 December 2009 - 11:48 PM.
nito 02 Dec 2009
DMAE is okay. it's like comparing chef boyardee's overstuffed beef ravioli to homemade fettucini alfredo. both are mouthwatering and delicious, but one simply cannot be compared to the other.
centro was my first nootropic (along w/piracetam). it has made its way back into my regimen, and i think i'll be keeping it there. i take 250mg in the morning w/breakfast. when i first used it, i was using it rather haphazardly and experimented its use for different activities. turned out to be a great work-out supplement!
Where do you boy your centro Pike?
425runner 03 Dec 2009
medicineman 04 Dec 2009
dmae interferes with choline metabolism in another study....
it has failed numerous trials for cognition, and has exhibited slight anti-depressant effects, which i am sure exercise would have been more effective at...
quail fed dmae exhibited shorter life spans in a japanese study.
ditch it...... personal experience has completely failed with dmae. nothing in terms of memory or cognition, and slight stimulating effect. in the end, no draw man.
nito 04 Dec 2009
nope, not even close to being a replacement.... Before consuming dmae, you should know that rat babies fed choline deficient diet with dmae died within hours.... this points to dmae most likely being non-cholinergic, or even anti-cholinergic...
dmae interferes with choline metabolism in another study....
it has failed numerous trials for cognition, and has exhibited slight anti-depressant effects, which i am sure exercise would have been more effective at...
quail fed dmae exhibited shorter life spans in a japanese study.
ditch it...... personal experience has completely failed with dmae. nothing in terms of memory or cognition, and slight stimulating effect. in the end, no draw man.
What do you recomend instead?
425runner 04 Dec 2009
nope, not even close to being a replacement.... Before consuming dmae, you should know that rat babies fed choline deficient diet with dmae died within hours.... this points to dmae most likely being non-cholinergic, or even anti-cholinergic...
dmae interferes with choline metabolism in another study....
it has failed numerous trials for cognition, and has exhibited slight anti-depressant effects, which i am sure exercise would have been more effective at...
quail fed dmae exhibited shorter life spans in a japanese study.
ditch it...... personal experience has completely failed with dmae. nothing in terms of memory or cognition, and slight stimulating effect. in the end, no draw man.
What do you recomend instead?
Johann 05 Dec 2009
I have been missing out on such a powerful supp. And to think what kind of effects I've been missing w/ my Aniracetam stack.
I like DMAE but for different reasons; I also do not take it every day but more like once or twice every two weeks.
hamishm00 06 Dec 2009
I just took 500mg of CDP Choline and the effect is dramatic. I never felt that on piracetam, aniracetam or oxiracetam, either individually or stacked or otherwise.
nito 07 Dec 2009
I believe that most of the nootropic effects that people feel on piracetam is because they are stacking it with alpha GPC or CDP Choline.
I just took 500mg of CDP Choline and the effect is dramatic. I never felt that on piracetam, aniracetam or oxiracetam, either individually or stacked or otherwise.
did u take choline on an empty stomach? And also what brand are you taking, can you provide direct link or so ?
thanks
Imagination 07 Dec 2009
I believe that most of the nootropic effects that people feel on piracetam is because they are stacking it with alpha GPC or CDP Choline.
I just took 500mg of CDP Choline and the effect is dramatic. I never felt that on piracetam, aniracetam or oxiracetam, either individually or stacked or otherwise.
I think this too, from what i see most people takening the racetams have negative effects on the cognitive abilities, so they have to take a choline source so they can feel normal again and they think it's the racetam causing it.
HarPe 07 Dec 2009
I believe that most of the nootropic effects that people feel on piracetam is because they are stacking it with alpha GPC or CDP Choline.
I just took 500mg of CDP Choline and the effect is dramatic. I never felt that on piracetam, aniracetam or oxiracetam, either individually or stacked or otherwise.
I think this too, from what i see most people takening the racetams have negative effects on the cognitive abilities, so they have to take a choline source so they can feel normal again and they think it's the racetam causing it.
I think it might have a negative effect on the cognitive abilities if you're low on ACh, but if your ACh levels are normal or slightly higher, i'm pretty sure it's good.
Dorho 14 Dec 2009
Edited by Dorho, 14 December 2009 - 09:09 AM.
The Likud Is Behind It 02 Feb 2010
Now I'm confused. According to this video (sponsored by Cognizin!) CDP choline is broken down to choline and cytidine before reaching the brain. What's the point of consuming an expensive substance like CDP choline if it never reaches the brain? Why not simply eat lecithin granules (-> choline) and meat (-> cytidine) instead of CDP choline?
cytedine gets convereted to uridine. Uridine is necessary for many phospholipid reactions in the brain. Among them, uridine + choline + DHA produces phosphatydl choline. You can also get uridine through a couple tablespoons of molasses in the morning if you don't want to take CDPCholine.
nito 02 Feb 2010
matter_of_time 02 Feb 2010
I just started with piracetam, and the combination from lecithine, alcar and piracetam feels like rocket fuel.
If Piracetam doesen't work, would it be possible you could still respond to any of the other racetams?
nito 15 Jul 2011
thedevinroy 15 Jul 2011
DMAE is more of a stimulant than a choline source. As a choline source, it is a weak one only being proven to be converted to choline in the liver via methylation. Thus, I thought of adding TMG for its methyl donor capability to further the choline transfer process. I don't hear TMG talked about a lot any more, but I think it has had some discussion here.sorry to bump up an old thread. But i got centro at home, but i hardly hear much about it on here, lots of talk about DMAE. So im thinking of giving DMAE a shot. My question was whether anyone bought either the NOW or Source natural brand on iherb? Don't know which one to opt for.
I'm curious as to what effects you feel/notice from centro. Could you tell?