Amino-acid imbalance explains extension of...
maxwatt 27 Dec 2009
Amino-acid imbalance explains extension of lifespan by dietary restriction in Drosophila
Richard C. Grandison1,2, Matthew D. W. Piper1,2 & Linda Partridge1
Institute of Healthy Ageing, Department of Genetics Evolution and Environment, University College London, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT, UK
These authors contributed equally to this work.
Correspondence to: Linda Partridge1 Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to L.P. (Email: l.partridge AT ucl.ac.uk).
Abstract
Dietary restriction extends healthy lifespan in diverse organisms and reduces fecundity1, 2. It is widely assumed to induce adaptive reallocation of nutrients from reproduction to somatic maintenance, aiding survival of food shortages in nature3, 4, 5, 6. If this were the case, long life under dietary restriction and high fecundity under full feeding would be mutually exclusive, through competition for the same limiting nutrients. Here we report a test of this idea in which we identified the nutrients producing the responses of lifespan and fecundity to dietary restriction in Drosophila. Adding essential amino acids to the dietary restriction condition increased fecundity and decreased lifespan, similar to the effects of full feeding, with other nutrients having little or no effect. However, methionine alone was necessary and sufficient to increase fecundity as much as did full feeding, but without reducing lifespan. Reallocation of nutrients therefore does not explain the responses to dietary restriction. Lifespan was decreased by the addition of amino acids, with an interaction between methionine and other essential amino acids having a key role. Hence, an imbalance in dietary amino acids away from the ratio optimal for reproduction shortens lifespan during full feeding and limits fecundity during dietary restriction. Reduced activity of the insulin/insulin-like growth factor signalling pathway extends lifespan in diverse organisms7, and we find that it also protects against the shortening of lifespan with full feeding. In other organisms, including mammals, it may be possible to obtain the benefits to lifespan of dietary restriction without incurring a reduction in fecundity, through a suitable balance of nutrients in the diet.
(emphasis mine)
Edited by maxwatt, 27 December 2009 - 05:15 PM.
tunt01 27 Dec 2009
and this post:
http://www.imminst.o...&...st&p=371295
Edited by prophets, 27 December 2009 - 07:01 PM.
VidX 28 Dec 2009
rwac 28 Dec 2009
Adding essential amino acids to the dietary restriction condition increased fecundity and decreased lifespan, similar to the effects of full feeding, with other nutrients having little or no effect. However, methionine alone was necessary and sufficient to increase fecundity as much as did full feeding, but without reducing lifespan. Reallocation of nutrients therefore does not explain the responses to dietary restriction.
So now methionine is good for you, but excess protein is not. Hmm.
maxwatt 28 Dec 2009
Well, if you are a fruit-fly on a calorie restricted diet, methionine will enable you to reproduce without shortening your lifespan. But for a non-CR fruit-fly, it is not clear from the abstract. But it does suggest that a properly structured non-CR diet can extend lifespan by restricting proteins. This would go against the paleo diet if it were to apply to humans.Adding essential amino acids to the dietary restriction condition increased fecundity and decreased lifespan, similar to the effects of full feeding, with other nutrients having little or no effect. However, methionine alone was necessary and sufficient to increase fecundity as much as did full feeding, but without reducing lifespan. Reallocation of nutrients therefore does not explain the responses to dietary restriction.
So now methionine is good for you, but excess protein is not. Hmm.
niner 28 Dec 2009
tunt01 28 Dec 2009
http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=35689 (same study as maxwatt's... discussed)
someone should get their hands on this nature study, it looks more important than i first realized.
Edited by prophets, 28 December 2009 - 08:05 AM.
maxwatt 28 Dec 2009
Protein restriction, even of just a single essential amino acid, should upregulate autophagy. It would be nice to restrict one that isn't in food we like to eat...
Yeah. Nuts.
(Nuts as a protein source are low in methionine.)
But added methionine for for the flies on CR did not shorten lifespan, but increased fecundity. For flies on normal diet, restricting methionine increased lifespan. Paradoxical.
prophets: Thanks for the links.
tunt01 29 Dec 2009
basically they restricted all other essential amino acids, EXCEPT methionine, and this maintained fecundity (reproduction) and life span. But ask yourself this question -- how realistic is it to restrict all other essential amino acids except methionine? it seems totally ludicrous. it's hard enough to restrict methionine alone, meaningfully.
if you look at leucine, isoleucine and other essential amino acids, and their individual impact on the body (ability to inhibit muscle wasting/sarcopenia) etc., it seems more ideal to just restrict methionine and eat the others in plenty. the trade off is obviously your fecundity level.
unless you own a factory to make the exact isocaloric diet and w/ exact nutrient in-take in this study, idk how else to get around it the problem.
the thing that is interesting about the study, is that it is not mutually exclusive per se, but more of a set of co-factors.
maxwatt 29 Dec 2009
A vegan diet, rich in nuts, is perhaps the only 'natural" way to achieve methionine restriction.from what i can tell, it still all comes down to restricting methionine in-take.
basically they restricted all other essential amino acids, EXCEPT methionine, and this maintained fecundity (reproduction) and life span. But ask yourself this question -- how realistic is it to restrict all other essential amino acids except methionine? it seems totally ludicrous. it's hard enough to restrict methionine alone, meaningfully.
if you look at leucine, isoleucine and other essential amino acids, and their individual impact on the body (ability to inhibit muscle wasting/sarcopenia) etc., it seems more ideal to just restrict methionine and eat the others in plenty. the trade off is obviously your fecundity level.
unless you own a factory to make the exact isocaloric diet and w/ exact nutrient in-take in this study, idk how else to get around it the problem.
the thing that is interesting about the study, is that it is not mutually exclusive per se, but more of a set of co-factors.
niner 29 Dec 2009
Well, these are flies, so it's hard to say how fly fecundity or any of the rest of it translates to humans, if at all. However, they didn't show that methionine was the only key to enhanced longevity. They did show that adding all the essential AAs shortened lifespan a lot, which might make us think twice about high protein diets, at least if the same effect is seen in mammals. Unfortunately, they didn't do the experiment where one essential AA was left at CR levels, while others were increased. I contend that restriction of any essential AA will enhance longevity, although without running the experiment, I can't comment on the degree of longevity enhancement. I really don't want to restrict methionine. It restricts food choices too much. I'd rather find an essential AA that doesn't seem to be critical to some faculty that is important to me and is actually easy to restrict. I have a feeling that animal products are going to be high in all the essential AAs, so maybe this scheme is doomed from the start.from what i can tell, it still all comes down to restricting methionine in-take.
basically they restricted all other essential amino acids, EXCEPT methionine, and this maintained fecundity (reproduction) and life span. But ask yourself this question -- how realistic is it to restrict all other essential amino acids except methionine? it seems totally ludicrous. it's hard enough to restrict methionine alone, meaningfully.
if you look at leucine, isoleucine and other essential amino acids, and their individual impact on the body (ability to inhibit muscle wasting/sarcopenia) etc., it seems more ideal to just restrict methionine and eat the others in plenty. the trade off is obviously your fecundity level.
tunt01 29 Dec 2009
A vegan diet, rich in nuts, is perhaps the only 'natural" way to achieve methionine restriction.
its quasi my diet ATM. main sources of protein are whey protein, beans, nuts. i do eat animal sourced protein a couple times a week, in small portions.
VidX 29 Dec 2009
Edited by VidX, 29 December 2009 - 08:47 AM.
niner 29 Dec 2009
Are you concerned about the high level of n-6 fatty acids in nuts, or lectins in beans? I have a raw cashew habit myself, (they're great with dark chocolate) but the n-6 problem makes me try to keep it at the level of a small snack rather than a significant protein source.its quasi my diet ATM. main sources of protein are whey protein, beans, nuts. i do eat animal sourced protein a couple times a week, in small portions.A vegan diet, rich in nuts, is perhaps the only 'natural" way to achieve methionine restriction.
tunt01 29 Dec 2009
Are you concerned about the high level of n-6 fatty acids in nuts, or lectins in beans? I have a raw cashew habit myself, (they're great with dark chocolate) but the n-6 problem makes me try to keep it at the level of a small snack rather than a significant protein source.
my comments probably overstated my actual nut intake. i eat nuts every day, but it's like 7 almonds, 7 walnuts ontop of oatmeal, etc. the real protein is from whey.
Mind 29 Dec 2009
JLL 30 Dec 2009
I contend that restriction of any essential AA will enhance longevity
This is my suspicion as well. It would make sense given the seemingly paradoxical results, at least. I think I posted a couple of studies in another thread suggesting that reducing other AAs might increase lifespan.