Top 5 supplements
mustardseed41 03 Mar 2013
We had a nutritionist come to my workplace and she brought both non-organic and organic apples and gave us each one to taste. You could TASTE the difference in the organic. She told us there are 40% LESS vitamins and minerals in non-organic produce.
I've been buying produce from local organic farms for several years, and also buy conventional food at the grocery store. Not only can I not tell a consistent difference between the taste of organic and conventional food, sometimes the organic food tastes WORSE. As was pointed out in the post above and elsewhere in these forums, the nutrient levels in organic foods are not significantly different than conventional foods. The only good reasons I can see for using organic foods are 1) the pesticide levels should be lower (not that I think that matters very much), and 2) supporting sustainable and local farming.
Also agree 100%
mikey 03 Mar 2013
Yea, Mikey I would prefer to eat organic, as I prefer to keep as many toxins out of my body as possible. I try to buy organic when I can, but I would be lying if I said it was most of the time. In fact I have about 2-3 cups of Wyman's frozen wild blueberries everyday that are certainly not organic. And considering the surface area to volume ratio, I would assume I am ingesting quite a bit.
My diet is certainly not perfect, and maybe I would be better served dropping supplements and putting the money into just organic food. I am not sure. If I ever develop Parkison's I suppose I will be sorry.
My issue was simply with the fact that I don't think organic food has any more nutritional value. Thanks for the info and heads up.
There are several studies showing more nutritional value from organic produce. Now, of course, I need to provide references while I am in the middle of two deadlines, so I will come back to this and give some references.
For now, here is one that showed that organically-raised cattle produced more of some nutrients in their milk than conventionally-raised cattle.
http://www.sciencedi...271531797001383
mikey 03 Mar 2013
Only Five?
SuperNutrition Opti-Energy Pack multivitamin/mineral/antioxidants- world's best buy, highest potencies - high potencies are required for anti-aging effects.
Carlson's The Very Finest Fish Oil - lemon flavored liquid - one tablespoon a day (3,900 mg of EPA/DHA) stops my atrial fibrillation.
LetsTalkHealth liposomal resveratrol - delivers the most intracellular resveratrol
LetsTalkHealth liposomal vitamin C - best intracellular delivery
LetsTalkHealth liposomal glutathione - best intracellular delivery
Five is not enough - I could go on with liposomal CoQ10, glycine proprionyl L-carnitine/acetyl L-carnitine (works better than Cialis and supports cardiovascular health, etc...
Bioperine improves absorption of nutrients.
Gosh, there are so many more than five.
Yea I really like piperine with my curcumin. Not exactly sure about the absorption of other nutrients. I take in kefir (not homemade I get that Lifeway from ALDI) everyday hoping the healthy flora help aid in absorption.
I was considering a liposomal vitamin c, Mercola to be exact because it was the cheapest I could find. But decided against it because I couldn't find any evidence that it would actually increase my blood plasma level of vitamin c. Although the evidence may be out there. I get a lot of vitamin c in my diet so I tend not to supplement with it. Although I do like some camu camu in my green tea (I think 1g of camu camu equates to 200mg of vitamin c).
I was looking into liposomal glutathione and then someone talked me out of it telling me it wasn't worth it. But I honestly don't know. Like I said I am still trying to perfect my diet and regimen.
Piperine improves the absorption of several nutrients. I'm in a time crunch or I'd provide references. So I will come back and do that.
As to liposomal nutrients, there are data showing much greater blood levels.
http://www.livonlabs...y_Published.pdf
And here are some more references - http://www.livonlabs...-resources.html
I wouldn't buy any nutritional supplement from Mercola. Everything he makes that I've analyzed for cost versus raw materials shows him giving little while charging much.
LivOn Lipospheric vitamin C has the best reputation for effectiveness, and some data say it cured leukemia.
See: http://www.michaelmo...CureCancer.html
I've used it but currently use the LetsTalkHealth.com brand of liposomal vitamin C, as it is the best buy that I've found.
Bron 04 Mar 2013
Only Five?
SuperNutrition Opti-Energy Pack multivitamin/mineral/antioxidants- world's best buy, highest potencies - high potencies are required for anti-aging effects.
Carlson's The Very Finest Fish Oil - lemon flavored liquid - one tablespoon a day (3,900 mg of EPA/DHA) stops my atrial fibrillation.
LetsTalkHealth liposomal resveratrol - delivers the most intracellular resveratrol
LetsTalkHealth liposomal vitamin C - best intracellular delivery
LetsTalkHealth liposomal glutathione - best intracellular delivery
Five is not enough - I could go on with liposomal CoQ10, glycine proprionyl L-carnitine/acetyl L-carnitine (works better than Cialis and supports cardiovascular health, etc...
Bioperine improves absorption of nutrients.
Gosh, there are so many more than five.
Yea I really like piperine with my curcumin. Not exactly sure about the absorption of other nutrients. I take in kefir (not homemade I get that Lifeway from ALDI) everyday hoping the healthy flora help aid in absorption.
I was considering a liposomal vitamin c, Mercola to be exact because it was the cheapest I could find. But decided against it because I couldn't find any evidence that it would actually increase my blood plasma level of vitamin c. Although the evidence may be out there. I get a lot of vitamin c in my diet so I tend not to supplement with it. Although I do like some camu camu in my green tea (I think 1g of camu camu equates to 200mg of vitamin c).
I was looking into liposomal glutathione and then someone talked me out of it telling me it wasn't worth it. But I honestly don't know. Like I said I am still trying to perfect my diet and regimen.
Piperine improves the absorption of several nutrients. I'm in a time crunch or I'd provide references. So I will come back and do that.
As to liposomal nutrients, there are data showing much greater blood levels.
http://www.livonlabs...y_Published.pdf
And here are some more references - http://www.livonlabs...-resources.html
I wouldn't buy any nutritional supplement from Mercola. Everything he makes that I've analyzed for cost versus raw materials shows him giving little while charging much.
LivOn Lipospheric vitamin C has the best reputation for effectiveness, and some data say it cured leukemia.
See: http://www.michaelmo...CureCancer.html
I've used it but currently use the LetsTalkHealth.com brand of liposomal vitamin C, as it is the best buy that I've found.
Thanks a bunch Mikey. Yea, Liveon was actually the first supplier I was looking to. Then my someone pointed me to Mercola because it was cheaper.
Going to have to do some reading and reconsider adding some lipsomal C to the bag of tricks. Thanks again. Just for the record I absolutely love vitamin c, if I can get my body to absorb more I would. Shoot, if I had a doctor willing to hook me up to an IV I would probably do that...
albedo 04 Mar 2013
I am sure niner you must have a good reason to write what I enphasize in red. What is it?1) the pesticide levels should be lower (not that I think that matters very much)
mikeinnaples 04 Mar 2013
I've been buying produce from local organic farms for several years, and also buy conventional food at the grocery store. Not only can I not tell a consistent difference between the taste of organic and conventional food, sometimes the organic food tastes WORSE. As was pointed out in the post above and elsewhere in these forums, the nutrient levels in organic foods are not significantly different than conventional foods. The only good reasons I can see for using organic foods are 1) the pesticide levels should be lower (not that I think that matters very much), and 2) supporting sustainable and local farming.
Organic makes sense on some produce that are more susceptible to permeation by pesticides. Does it make sense to spend more money on something like a banana though for the organic label? Absolutely not. Hormone free chicken and grass fed beef is worth the money to me though. Personally, I think hormone free / grass fed beef tastes far far better.
niner 29 Mar 2013
I am sure niner you must have a good reason to write what I enphasize in red. What is it?1) the pesticide levels should be lower (not that I think that matters very much)
Sorry for the long delay, I missed this when you wrote it a month ago... Basically I think that people spend too much energy worrying about micro-level problems like minute amounts of pesticides, heavy metals and fluoride, and not enough time working on the macro-level issues like diet, exercise, sleep, chronobiology, illness and allergy. This is not to say that pesticides aren't possibly harmful, it's just that I don't think the balance of concern is right, in a lot of cases.
Atropy 24 Apr 2013
Extremely predictable but:
1. D3
2. K
3. Magnesium
4. Omega 3
5. Curcumin
Closely followed by: ALCAR, resveratrol, green tea, glisodin, tocopherols/tocotrienols, mixed berry extracts, NAC, Carnosine, Pyridoxamine, Milk Thistle, dietary fibre, Na-Rala (with co-supplementing Sam-E), Taurine.
What dosages would you recommend for the first 3 supplements if one has already reached their rda of k1 vit d and magnesium?
arjacent 13 Jun 2014
Omega-3 (supports heart and brain)
R-ALA (powerful antioxidant)
K2+D3 (bone health)
Curcumin (inflammation + antioxidant)
Creatine (mental and physical energy)
Honorable mention:
CoQ10, PQQ (mitochondria)
MgT (Mg that crosses BBB)
Alpha-GPC (choline source that crosses BBB)
NAC (anti-oxidant)
TMG (methylator)
DIM, D-Glucarate (detox and hormonal balance)
Uridine (cognition)
ALCAR (energy)
Gingko (vasodilator)
Ashwagandha (adaptogen)
Rhodiola Rosea (energy and mood)
Modafinil (cognition and energy)
FocusPocus 24 Sep 2014
no particular order. Am bipolar 2 with GAD. (take buspirone, not other drugs)
Galantamine (helps cognition in bipolar)
Caffeine
Ashwagandha
Gingko + Ginseng combo (cheating)
Deprenyl (1.5mg alternate days sublingual)
Waiting for Semax. Hope its everything what they say it is! Hope it stacks well with caffeine, galantamine and deprenyl too.
Edited by FocusPocus, 24 September 2014 - 02:12 PM.
Stephen12 27 Sep 2014
Just five?!! Ok...
1. Vitamin D (w/ K2 just like the poster two above me)
2. Magnesium threonate
3. Krill oil
4. Liposomal vitamin c
5. Curcumin
Just a note, I've been taking the Opti-Men multivitamins and those have been working great.
Edited by Stephen12, 27 September 2014 - 06:16 PM.
diabeticNorm 31 Oct 2014
I don't believe all cells have the carnosine synthase enzyme, but some cells do, which forms carnosine from histidine and alanine. Some types of cells are able to absorb carnosine directly and alanine would be pretty useless to those cells.
So I figured that it's best to supplement alanine to save money and carnosine for where there was no enzyme carnosine synthase.
I think that's right, you might want to check for yourself the facts, I'm not a doctor or an expect on the human body.
thedarkbobo 03 Nov 2014
1 K2+D3
2 Stinging nettle leaf
hard hitting combo that I was afraid to use together so far (tried with unifiram instead of sunifiram and was blown away for few days - like supercharged):
3 sunifiram
4 itpp
5 c60-OO
or more safe
3 noopept [+piracetam+ centrophenoxine]
4 CoQ10 (my body seems to suck with energy production if I noticed it working as 25 year old? )
5 umm I guess fish oil, gollum likes it and lived so long so it must be worth it
Not much else to mention as good: Magnesium, hawthorn, alcar, b complex, carnosine..
Skyguy2005 03 Nov 2014
No need to bother saying five, I would only say two:
1. Ginkgo Biloba
2. Red Reishi
These are light years ahead of anything else I've tried.
Edited by Skyguy2005, 03 November 2014 - 11:42 PM.
Daniel Cooper 21 Dec 2014
My daily regimen in no particular order:
- Cholecalciferol (D3)
- Glisodin
- Menaquinone-7 (K2)
- Mitoq
- Nicotinamide Riboside
Also taking some reduced Glutathione, 500mg Nicotinamide, and 2mg B12 sublingual.
Thoughts, critique, suggestions?
unregistered_user 28 Dec 2014
Alright guys. I went through every page in this thread, scrubbed the data, standardized the answers and rendered down a summary of every response in this thread.
The number represents the number of times the supplement was recommended. Full disclosure, I removed a few replies that didn't constitute as valid supplement recommendations. If something was a research drug or pharmaceutical (eg: IRDA-21, Ritalin, Modafinil) it was not counted as a valid response. That was basically the only criteria. I am not claiming this is 100% perfect, but it ought to be pretty darn close. At the very least, it will give you a quick aggregate view of the Top Supplements that were shared in this thread.
Top Supplements Summary
45
Vitamin D3
36
Fish oil
29
Magnesium
25
Vitamin K2
17
Curcumin
16
Green Tea
15
Multivitamin
Resveratrol
13
ALA
ALCAR
12
Carnosine
8
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Melatonin
7
Ginkgo
6
CoQ10
Deprenyl
Lithium
NAC
Piracetam
Probiotics
Zinc
5
Taurine
4
Vitamin B Complex
Vitamin C
3
Alpha-GPC
Ashwagandha
Astaxanthin
Astragalus Root
Bacopa
Beta-Alanine
CDP-Choline
Creatine
Idebenone
IP6
Krill Oil
Pomegranate Extract
Rhodiola Rosea
Sam-e
Ubiquinol
2
BCAAs
Benfotiamine
DHEA
DIM
Ginseng
GliSODin
Glutamine
Gotu Kola
Grape Seed Extract
Green Food Supplement
Lion's Mane
Oxaloacetate
Phosphotidylserine
PQQ
Red wine
Reishi
SOD
St. Johns Wort
Stinging Nettle Leaf
Vitamin B12
1
5-HTP
Aloe Vera Juice
Aniracetam
Aronia
Aspirin
Berry Extracts
Biosil
Biotin
Blueberry Extract
Caffeine
Calcium
Cerebrolysin
Chocolate
Cordyceps
Cycloastragenol
Galantamine
Ganoderma Lucidum
Garlic
Ginger
Glutathione
Goji Berries
GPLC
Korean Red Ginseng
Kyolic AGE
L-arginine
L-theanine
L-tyrosine
Lutein
Maca
Metformin
Methylene Blue
MgT
MSM
NAD
Oxiracetam
Polygonum Muliflorum
Purslane Extract
Pycnogenol
Pyridoxamine
Quercetin
Red Reishi
RNA/DNA
Salmon Oil
Semax
Shilajit Extract
Tea of wild Thyme
TMG
Uridine
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
White tea
Xylitol
unregistered_user 28 Dec 2014
I'd be interested to hear what people find surprising about these results. For instance, I am surprised that in over 400 recommendations, Garlic was only mentioned 1 time. How can that be?
Healthy Almonds 28 Dec 2014
Alright guys. I went through every page in this thread, scrubbed the data, standardized the answers and rendered down a summary of every response in this thread.
The number represents the number of times the supplement was recommended. Full disclosure, I removed a few replies that didn't constitute as valid supplement recommendations. If something was a research drug or pharmaceutical (eg: IRDA-21, Ritalin, Modafinil) it was not counted as a valid response. That was basically the only criteria. I am not claiming this is 100% perfect, but it ought to be pretty darn close. At the very least, it will give you a quick aggregate view of the Top Supplements that were shared in this thread.
Top Supplements Summary
13
ALA
ALCAR
8
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Melatonin
Acetyl-L-Carnitine and ALCAR are the same :-)
Edited by Healthy Almonds, 28 December 2014 - 03:06 PM.
Kalliste 28 Dec 2014
I'd be interested to hear what people find surprising about these results. For instance, I am surprised that in over 400 recommendations, Garlic was only mentioned 1 time. How can that be?
Nobody seems to care about mitochondrial antioxidants despite the good stuff out there. I agree about garlic, but that is so easy to include in diet that people may not use it supplementary.
unregistered_user 29 Dec 2014
Alright guys. I went through every page in this thread, scrubbed the data, standardized the answers and rendered down a summary of every response in this thread.
The number represents the number of times the supplement was recommended. Full disclosure, I removed a few replies that didn't constitute as valid supplement recommendations. If something was a research drug or pharmaceutical (eg: IRDA-21, Ritalin, Modafinil) it was not counted as a valid response. That was basically the only criteria. I am not claiming this is 100% perfect, but it ought to be pretty darn close. At the very least, it will give you a quick aggregate view of the Top Supplements that were shared in this thread.
Top Supplements Summary
13
ALA
ALCAR
8
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Melatonin
Acetyl-L-Carnitine and ALCAR are the same :-)
Hah! See, I told you it wouldn't be 100% perfect. Good catch.
That puts ALCAR in the Top 5.
Here are the Top 10:
Top Supplements Summary
45
Vitamin D3
36
Fish oil
29
Magnesium
25
Vitamin K2
21
ALCAR
17
Curcumin
16
Green Tea
15
Multivitamin
Resveratrol
13
ALA
12
Carnosine
Edited by semi-retarded-individual, 29 December 2014 - 01:47 AM.
Kevnzworld 29 Dec 2014
ALCAR in the top 5 really makes me laugh hard.
ALCAR wouldn't be in my top 10 either, but if you're going to criticize it as a a choice, your rationale would be helpful.
arska 31 Dec 2014
Supplements:
- Vitamin D3
- Grape Seed Extract
- Rhodiola Rosea Extract
- Magnesium Gluconate
- Olive Leaf Extract
Nature's "Supplements" from food stuff:
- Green Tea
- Fermented Black Tea (disk, Pu Erh)
- Wallnuts
- Almonds
- Cacao
Edited by arska, 31 December 2014 - 04:14 PM.
itpp 01 Jan 2015
Vitamin C 500mg at a time
L Theanine
Caffeine
Olive Leaf Extract 20% ole
Jim Morrison 01 Jan 2015
For many years my top 5 have been:
1) Caffeine
2) Ginkgo
3) Fish Oil
4) Vitamin C
5) ALCAR
This would be followed by:
6) Vitamin D3 (Winter 3000IU, Summer 2000IU)
7) Choline source (for me bitartrate)
8) Multi with low copper
recently added:
Curcumin (now brand) - too early to say...
Btw, if you want to remove pharmaceuticals from the final list, you can also take Piracetam out.
Edited by Jim Morrison, 01 January 2015 - 09:54 AM.
giant 01 Jan 2015
Curcumin
Resveratrol
Cycloastragenol
Magnesium
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
What does Acetyl-L-Carnitine do for you?
sonshoku 01 Jan 2015
1. 5htp
2. Probiotics
3. Inositol
4. Fish oil
5. Vitamin C
Edited by sonshoku, 01 January 2015 - 05:32 PM.