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Another example of the spirit of why we fight for indefinite life extension.

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#1 brokenportal

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:21 PM


Here is another example of the spirit of why we fight for indefinite life extension. (recently posted elsewhere by droplet)

http://www.telegraph...teoporosis.html

Duchess of Cornwall speaks of heartbreak over watching elderly mother die of osteoporosis

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"endured a “slow and agonising death” from the fragile-bone disease."

“My family and I watched in horror as my mother quite literally shrank in front of our eyes."

“I believe that the quality of her life became so dismal, and her suffering so unbearable, that she just gave up the fight and lost the will to live.”


It reminds me of this video:


Edited by brokenportal, 04 January 2012 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:13 PM

The Royals have taken up some good "public relations" charity through the years, like environmentalism and old land mine clearance (Princess Di's cause, right?) but so far I don't think they have taken up anything more risky or radical. With all the money and influence (and vanity) they have, you would think they could affect some faster progress in life extension research.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:56 PM

The Royals have taken up some good "public relations" charity through the years, like environmentalism and old land mine clearance (Princess Di's cause, right?) but so far I don't think they have taken up anything more risky or radical. With all the money and influence (and vanity) they have, you would think they could affect some faster progress in life extension research.

I think it may be in part due to the fact that perhaps they just don't know it was out there. That and they like the majority probably think that it is impossible to even consider halting the aging process. Reminds me of a study with dogs that we looked at in A-Level Psychology about learned helplessness. Basically, they had an electified floor and a fence. When the one part of the floor was electrified, the dog jumped. However, when researchers made both parts electrified, the dogs would eventually stop even trying to get away from the shocks, excepting that the pain and misery was how it was. I think the pro-aging trance is in a similarif not identical vein. Until now, no one had been able to conceive a way out of the pain and suffering and everyone just stopped trying to fight it. Although thre are a few individuals like the people on this board who refuse to accept that they were helpless and looked more closely, the majority are just in a trance of learned helplessness.

Also with The Royals in mind, I think we would have to ask how religious they are. If they are in the main practising or at least believing Christians, they may see such interventions as the violation of God's wishes. As far as I'm concerned, if God made us in his own image, God is a creator and so we can mould our own world. I doubt we can make any more of a mess of things given a supposedly caring God also gave us the nasty curses of aging, cancers and all those wonderful genetic disorders.

Perhaps The Royals would be another good outreach target? However, I reckon again that as they are people who occupy a high position in society, someone who has a high position in this organisation should contact them with a nice posh letterheaded message. :)

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:04 PM

The Royals have taken up some good "public relations" charity through the years, like environmentalism and old land mine clearance (Princess Di's cause, right?) but so far I don't think they have taken up anything more risky or radical. With all the money and influence (and vanity) they have, you would think they could affect some faster progress in life extension research.

I think it may be in part due to the fact that perhaps they just don't know it was out there. That and they like the majority probably think that it is impossible to even consider halting the aging process.

Perhaps The Royals would be another good outreach target? However, I reckon again that as they are people who occupy a high position in society, someone who has a high position in this organisation should contact them with a nice posh letterheaded message. :)



About 10 years ago Prince Charles has read my book 'The Anti-Ageing Plan' and we discussed his thoughts on the matter. He is notoriously interested in natural health and complementary medicine. However none of the Royals have any significant interest in aging or life extension, and quite honestly, they are not that influencial either. If anybody in Longecity is ever going to contact anyone in a high position, it must be someone with much more influence such as, for a example, a Chinese or Russian billionnaire!
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

About 10 years ago Prince Charles has read my book 'The Anti-Ageing Plan' and we discussed his thoughts on the matter. He is notoriously interested in natural health and complementary medicine. However none of the Royals have any significant interest in aging or life extension, and quite honestly, they are not that influencial either. If anybody in Longecity is ever going to contact anyone in a high position, it must be someone with much more influence such as, for a example, a Chinese or Russian billionnaire!

Interesting, nice to know that one person has at least told one of The Royals that this is out there. I thought that The Royals had more influence than they actually did but then I don't really take much notice of who's in and who isn't.

Okay then, someone should get the letterheaded paper from Longecity figure of authority to billionaires instead. :)

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 07:03 PM

The Royals have taken up some good "public relations" charity through the years, like environmentalism and old land mine clearance (Princess Di's cause, right?) but so far I don't think they have taken up anything more risky or radical. With all the money and influence (and vanity) they have, you would think they could affect some faster progress in life extension research.

I think it may be in part due to the fact that perhaps they just don't know it was out there. That and they like the majority probably think that it is impossible to even consider halting the aging process. Reminds me of a study with dogs that we looked at in A-Level Psychology about learned helplessness. Basically, they had an electified floor and a fence. When the one part of the floor was electrified, the dog jumped. However, when researchers made both parts electrified, the dogs would eventually stop even trying to get away from the shocks, excepting that the pain and misery was how it was. I think the pro-aging trance is in a similarif not identical vein. Until now, no one had been able to conceive a way out of the pain and suffering and everyone just stopped trying to fight it. Although thre are a few individuals like the people on this board who refuse to accept that they were helpless and looked more closely, the majority are just in a trance of learned helplessness.

Also with The Royals in mind, I think we would have to ask how religious they are. If they are in the main practising or at least believing Christians, they may see such interventions as the violation of God's wishes. As far as I'm concerned, if God made us in his own image, God is a creator and so we can mould our own world. I doubt we can make any more of a mess of things given a supposedly caring God also gave us the nasty curses of aging, cancers and all those wonderful genetic disorders.

Perhaps The Royals would be another good outreach target? However, I reckon again that as they are people who occupy a high position in society, someone who has a high position in this organisation should contact them with a nice posh letterheaded message. :)


With what Mind says, that makes me realize that people like them might be among the first world of the world characters that would be willing to hold up the banner of a cause like this. If they are very religious that might pose a slightly larger road block to it, but I dont think it would be insurmountable. As the news of this cause picks up I wont doubt if they do. We could help see if we can make it happen faster. You know what they say, a person is most likely to start considering something as true when they have heard about it from around 3 or 4 different sources that they view as at least partially credible. Mrszeta already provided the potential for one of those sources to start stacking for some, I bet that often goes a long ways.

Thats right droplet, we want to take away part of the zapping floor for people. When people see that there are growing circles and organizations that dont tell you to accept death, to be brave, to forget about it, that it is inevitable, then we provide places on the floor with out electricity for them to start considering going over too. The next time they have a pang about death, they will have this space on the floor to consider where they can see work being done and guidance and insight on how we can fight it and defeat it.

This topic reminds me of this book which I just came upon recently. It looks like it might help us pull the wool back on what we all really have in store for us in the potential end of life years. http://www.amazon.co...26479723&sr=8-3 A little awareness in that way, it occurs to me, might cause people in nursing homes and hospice homes and the like to start speaking out more instead of accepting it and preparing to quietly brave their Hiroshimas in a bottle.

Its like, "Hey, you are going to go through an atomic bomb explosion. There will be countless horrors and pains to endure. Zip your lip about it, you just be brave, everybody has to do it, now bite your lip, bear the shock waves of pain and the memories hurricaning through your head as you long bitterly and heavily for them as they slip and fade away, close your eyes and say good night to the universe."

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:53 PM

Just made my own little stab at death...they are talking about aging on LBC (London's Biggest Conversation) now. I e-mailed in and informed the presenter about the cause we have going here. Whether or not it'll get mentioned on radio is another matter but I'm hoping that someone will pick it up and think for a couple of seconds. :) The show is on a bit late for me to hear it all but I have done what I can to make Nick Abbot who is saying how it's inevitable that we fall apart see that some of us are actively deciding against such a crappy fate.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

Just made my own little stab at death...they are talking about aging on LBC (London's Biggest Conversation) now. I e-mailed in and informed the presenter about the cause we have going here. Whether or not it'll get mentioned on radio is another matter but I'm hoping that someone will pick it up and think for a couple of seconds. :) The show is on a bit late for me to hear it all but I have done what I can to make Nick Abbot who is saying how it's inevitable that we fall apart see that some of us are actively deciding against such a crappy fate.



I used to think there was a good chance that there were low odds of something like that making a difference. I was still a supporter of doing it though. Over time, what I find, is that the odds seem to be much, much better that things like that will make a difference. First, if they even skimmed your message then the odds are pretty good, I don't know exactly, maybe 50/50 that it has opened their reticular activating system to the cause, or if they have already heard about it then it has "stacked" it in their thoughts another time for them. If they see a related story on it, now they are more likely to talk about it. If that happens then it grows from there. They will notice even further things about it out of the corner of their ear that they wouldn't have otherwise, and they could end up doing anything from 10 seconds of thought on it, to a whole series about it. You've planted a preemptive seed.

You've demonstrated another example of making the journey, continuing to go the distance for indefinite life extension.





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