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[cyric]

Hmmm...maybe...There are no diffinite answers, no one can really be right on this topic. No one knows enough about it.

[amordaad]

Hi cyryc , but please first have a look at the first procedure I mentioned in the early posts ...

[cyric]

I did, and I've read it countless times in other works. It's not all that new. The fact of the matter is; the brain is a material thing, copying the brain waves will just give you a record of (I'm not entirely sure it would be of your entire life) <. The thing about it is, if you copy the brain patterns and transfer it onto a computer (super/quantum), all your doing is making a copy, because the brain makes it's own waves, and after the procedure, you would be able to just walk out, with a copy of your personality on the computer. You wouldn't have gone anywhere, (unless you walked any) especially not "into" the computer. Brain waves are just brain waves. I used to be a big fan of brain emulation, but I don't think it's really probably, because of the affore mentioned problem. So I think the most you would be able to achieve is a sort of Neural Interface (to communicate with (not so much as communicate, as computers can't think or make decent conversation...yet) and issue direct commands to a computer). It would be a sort of temporary brain emulation. But there might be a problem if you were interfacing with a computer, and it rebooted/froze/crashed/got infected by a virus etc.

[amordaad]

This is to Ocsrazor's comment on March 7th 2005 :

ocsrazor told that the brain neurons will not be grown and for exapmle the cortex won't be even shaped or existed ....

There is a limnk for u here to the Implanting Hope , By : David Ewing Duncan March 2005
and on the third page of 5 u will find this view of a Neroscientist , Bill Heetderks , who headed the neuralprosthetics programs at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke until 2003 , That when a human patient is due to same experiment of electrode implanting , And finally he says :
(( Donoghue's ( the performer of experiment on the brave volunteered patient , Nagle ) experiments have answered a crusial question that could not have been addressed in an animal study : would human motor neurons still fire up as they would in a healthy person after prolonged paralysis of the limbs ? He says "This was an important reason to do this experiment in a human , "" Now we know the cells still work ." [thumb]
I suggest u to have a look at this essay ....
Thank u ...

[amordaad]

I wanna face you with a new challenge :
Just replace the (( Copy )) phase in the method I suggest at the beginning of this topic with (( Cut )) and then try to explain what will happen if the technology make it possibe for us .... [sfty]

[amordaad]

Hi everybody in this forum . This is the second time I'm back here ... I'm reaaly serious in this way ... I mean reaching "Immortality" and I think it is getting late little by little to find a scientific and effective approach ...
I gave a little comment about the "Cut and Paste" for u to decrease ur worry about the continuity of the conciousness . Imagine the process of cut and paste and it is unlike the anaesthesia which in it there is many information kept in the brain but the accessability is lost ; but in cutting , every piece of information is removed and the brain will be the same ( not exactly ) as the time of starting in the womb ... [lol]
please think about it and I wil talk more about it ...

[armrha]

If all the pro-uploading speculation is correct, we live in a strange world. Where somewhere in the halls of our discovered mathematics, there's an f(x)=? waiting to be described where the ?, when provided with an adequate set of variables, can form complex models and understandings of ideas, wonder about itself, try to figure out why it exists and enjoy the time it has in its domain, dream, love, cry, and all the other endeavors that seem so fluid to us...

[amordaad]

Have a look at this article ...
It is about an artificial Hippocampus , which is an encoder in the brain that recieves the input signals of the brain and then encodes it in a way that can be stored in the memory ... so now this encoder is claimed to be artificially made ...
But the more I searched for the next steps taken by the researchers group the less I found any essays or related articles .
I think this is a real breakthrough but I look for something new after the above article ...
May some people hear know anything about it ...
Thanks . [thumb]

[Lazarus Long]

Did you see where we have a detailed discussion of the Hippocampal implant technologies amordaad?

Yes this is very interesting work.

If you attend the conference we all might be hearing about more up to date applications.

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