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#1 medievil

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:18 PM


My shizophrenia symptions kept reducing drastically; its been 6 months now i had any positive shizophrenia symption and now ive reached the point where i can take stimulants without them inducing paranoia (wich i never could without a gabaergic).
I also reduced my regime to pregnenolone and a stimulant today because of a drastic reduction in ocd and me thinking logically (more sups just inhibit eachother.

My biggest help was l methylfolate wich theoretically can cure shizophrenia by silencing bad genes (silenced bad genes is why not all idential twins get shizophrenia if their sis/bro has it) it really did seem to have cured shizophrenia altough i bet alot of my other sups togheter with chronic social exposure helped me a shitload too.

I still need a stimulant; stimulants are EXTREMELY effective for negatives in shizo but should only be used in combination with something for positive symptions (id recommend methylene blue; pregnenolone; l methylfolate; nefiracetam mostly; one of those with amphetamine; i highly urge to avoid ap's).

Here's some good info on amp for shizo:
http://www.shire.com...hirenews?id=477

If anyone wants help with shizophrenia or has questions let me know; ill be glad to help.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 07:01 AM

Good to know that it goes better with you.

interested in methylfolate, i think order some one.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:13 PM

I withdrew of phenibut with lorazepam; im now gabadrugfree wich is a very good thing.

Im taking
Lexapro

nac
Aniracetam
Cod liver oil
Glutamine
MPA

I take nac as a general health supplement and for tolerance (it can work for that as it slows glutaminergic firing; something for tolerance is important as aniracetam probably accelerates this). I take aniracetam as it could help my negative shizophrenia symptions due to its glutaminergic action; it also synergizes with stimulants; i add cod liver oil and glutamine to it to enhance its effectiveness. I take lexapro to augment the anti sa effect of stims and for my OCD. Mpa is currently take as stimulant as getting them prescribed in the uk is damn hard; but i want to replace it with ritalin ER.

Every few weeks i change regime somewhat and see what it does; so far im very pleased with the results;ill give it some time and report back in detail.


no idea whats up with the font...

Edited by medievil, 11 May 2012 - 04:14 PM.

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#4 malden

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:19 PM

Looks like a more belanced stack than the insane list ive seen before from you ;)

I have the same aprouch as you, trieing different regimens every week or month, things like aniracetam and NAC have earned a definitif place in regimens. stuff seems to keep working for me.

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#5 medievil

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:16 PM

lol insane regimes togheter with switching regime daily is a typical shizophrenia symption; it didnt make any sense whatsoever.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:26 PM

First i want to see how the addition of mirtazepine works; i want it for sleep mostly. It blocks 5HT2A wich aniracetam agonizes i wonder wheter it will change the anxiolytic effects.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:27 PM

Im still quite ocd about my sitting position or how my clothes feel on me (rubbish description) never read about this kind of ocd before either but then again its impossible to prescribe; my pure obsessions are pretty much gone tough.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:12 AM

lol insane regimes togheter with switching regime daily is a typical shizophrenia symption; it didnt make any sense whatsoever.




I think it do make sense, especialy if you keep shelter under shizophrenia. Acknowledge your symptons and try to balance them out is a good thing al will have more profits in the long run. I mean this only on prospect to regimens(. I can according to your info on the forum not judge the rest of your life naturally P)

Hold or switching to fast or to big regimens maybe a "Symptom" but ist something you can change if you want.

Ive had the same problem, but since I pridicted myself to hold on not take to much different things ive get a fat better point of what realy helps end what realy do not. plus it gives me more structure

just trieing to give some good advice here no hatings or whatever


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#9 medievil

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:16 AM

Hold or switching to fast or to big regimens maybe a "Symptom" but ist something you can change if you want.

My cognition was pretty damn impaired; i used to take big stacks before i triggered my progression allmost 2 years ago; but they were consisten after my cognition declined it got a ton worse so im pretty sure its involved.
Altough id agree its hard to blame shizophrenia for this; its not really a delusion.

Sure thing i appreciate all opinions/advice.

Edited by medievil, 12 May 2012 - 07:17 AM.


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

I replaced nac with ginseng wich should theoretically also work for tolerance and synergize with ani as its also a 5HT2A agonist.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:55 PM

Psychopharmacology (Berl).
2011 Aug;216(4):589-99. Epub 2011 Mar 22.
Identification of antidepressant-like ingredients in ginseng root (Panax ginseng C.A. Meyer) using a menopausal depressive-like state in female mice: participation of 5-HT2A receptors.

Yamada N, Araki H, Yoshimura H.
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Department of Pharmacology and Pharmacy, Ehime University Graduate School of Medicine, Toon, Ehime, Japan.

Abstract

RATIONALE:

After reports of adverse effects with hormone replacement therapy, such as reproductive and breast cancer and coronary heart disease, much attention has been given to the development of new remedies to alleviate menopausal depression in women, but methods for their preclinical evaluation have not been clarified. We previously developed a procedure to predict the drug effect on the menopausal depressive-like state in female mice.
OBJECTIVES:

We attempted to identify psychoactive components from ginseng root, one of the earliest known materials for menopausal disorder, and to clarify the possible mechanism involved.
METHODS:

As an index of a depressive-like state, we used the prolongation of immobility time induced by an ovariectomy during the forced swimming test. Chronic treatment with the candidate substance began the day after ovariectomy and continued for 14 days. To examine whether the 5-HT(2A) receptor antagonist ritanserin antagonized the antidepressant-like effect of ginsenoside Rb(1), ritanserin was given as pretreatment 15 min before the daily administration of ginsenoside Rb(1) and the antagonistic effect was compared with ginsenoside Rb(1) alone.
RESULTS:

Ginsenoside Rb(1) and compound K were active ingredients that dose-dependently prevented the prolongation of immobility time induced by ovariectomy. Co-administration of ritanserin, a 5-HT(2A)-receptor antagonist, antagonized the effect of ginsenoside Rb(1).
CONCLUSIONS:


We suggest that ginsenoside Rb(1) and its metabolite, compound K, are antidepressant-like components of the ginseng root, and that 5-HT(2A) receptors may play an important role in mediating the antidepressant-like effect of ginsenoside Rb(1).

Eur J Pharmacol.
2001 May 18;420(1):33-43.
Anxiolytic effects of aniracetam in three different mouse models of anxiety and the underlying mechanism.

Nakamura K, Kurasawa M.
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CNS Supporting Laboratory, Nippon Roche Research Center, 200 Kajiwara, Kamakura, 247-8530, Kanagawa, Japan. kazuo.nakmura@roche.com

Abstract


The anxiolytic effects of aniracetam have not been proven in animals despite its clinical usefulness for post-stroke anxiety. This study, therefore, aimed to characterize the anxiolytic effects of aniracetam in different anxiety models using mice and to examine the mode of action. In a social interaction test in which all classes (serotonergic, cholinergic and dopaminergic) of compounds were effective, aniracetam (10-100 mg/kg) increased total social interaction scores (time and frequency), and the increase in the total social interaction time mainly reflected an increase in trunk sniffing and following. The anxiolytic effects were completely blocked by haloperidol and nearly completely by mecamylamine or ketanserin, suggesting an involvement of nicotinic acetylcholine, 5-HT2A and dopamine D2 receptors in the anxiolytic mechanism. Aniracetam also showed anti-anxiety effects in two other anxiety models (elevated plus-maze and conditioned fear stress tests), whereas diazepam as a positive control was anxiolytic only in the elevated plus-maze and social interaction tests. The anxiolytic effects of aniracetam in each model were mimicked by different metabolites (i.e., p-anisic acid in the elevated plus-maze test) or specific combinations of metabolites. These results indicate that aniracetam possesses a wide range of anxiolytic properties, which may be mediated by an interaction between cholinergic, dopaminergic and serotonergic systems. Thus, our findings suggest the potential usefulness of aniracetam against various types of anxiety-related disorders and social failure/impairments.


Lexapro also provides additio
nal 5HT2A agonism wich is respond very well too (also explains my very good response to 5HT2A but all compounds have many other actions too).

With standard ad augmentation mostly being 5HT antagonists both compounds offer a novel alternative.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:35 AM

Currently im taking ginseng, pramiracetam, MPA and also a antibiotic wich i mention as its a strong nmda agonist and a mild gabaa blocker like pregnenolone wich it feels somewhat simular too (avelox).

Will take this till i receive the cilltep stack.

Also want to give papaverine a little try added to my stack.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:47 AM

Without gabaergic stims make a bit shaky and still feel bit uncomfortable around others so was thinking to add some propranolol to see wheter it helps.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:51 AM

Oh perhaps ill make that nebivolol wich increases both nitric oxide and testosterone wich also both should help shizophrenia.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:57 AM

Just got my hands on nebivolol just tolled the pharmacist i forgot my script and il bring it tomorrow; should kick in in a few minutes hopefully it works for what i want it for.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:48 PM

Prozac
Quercetin
Forskolin
Craze
D aspartic acid
Phenibut
Magnesium

Is my current combo, works pretty well except that i got a tremor of craze and some cafeine like anxiety wich is rather anoying.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:16 PM

I replaced prozac with st johnsworth (perika) and quercetine with curcumin.

Currently im out of stims for a while but ill see how it goes, not sure what to do about anhedonia tough.

Also ran out of d aspartic acid, added some gotu kola instead of that wich also reases cAMP and should synergize with cilltep (curcumin is also a PDE4i like quercetin.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:29 PM

Im taking a break of forskolin for a week at the moment, im wondering wheter i got more tolerant to the cilltep stack but im not sure, ill see what happeneds when i add it back in.

Also gonna withdrawal of phenibut with benzo's as it barely helps anything, started taking it again for anhedonia several weeks ago but it only helped for 20% or so, barely at all actually.

St johns wort (perika)
Curcumin
Fish oil
DHEA
L methylfolate
Gotu kola

Is my current stack, i want to retry craze for a bit for anhedonia and motivational issues, this time with some benzo's around as last time it made me shakey and anxious at even the recommened doses, it didnt really work out that way as i kept taking more trying to overwrite the anxiety (it does help because the euphoria overpowers the anxiety but thats not a proper solution).

It all needs some time to work, hopefully st johns wort or dhea would help my anhedonia long term (beleive they both could help with that) but ill see.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:17 PM

So i got my etizolam and craze so tomorrow ill be stopping phenibut.

With etizolam craze's works far better without the issues i had last time, works well for anhedonia, sa, motivation and focus.

I also replaced perika with aniracetam, i started getting sunburns alot so i stopped perika for now





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