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Disregard the spelling mistake.
Edited by Slahzer, 25 April 2012 - 09:47 AM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:45 AM
Edited by Slahzer, 25 April 2012 - 09:47 AM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:11 PM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:58 PM
One of the interesting things is that whatever god there is if there is one, cares deeply about the laws of physics, enough to ignore the suffering of billions of humans. No dictatorship such as north korea where pregnant women are kicked in their belly, prisoners fed poisoned grain, nor even the german concentration camps demanded divine intervention. It is said there are 12 Million child sex slaves, they'll live and die serially raped and god will not intervene.I think the old testament god that wasn't afraid to hurl fire and brimstone wouldn't have much problem laying down the smack on me for some of the crap I have said about his non existence. Surely I have offended one of the many gods of our various religions enough that ONE of them would at least have the balls to put me in my place with some holy vengeance. Surely enough people are questioning existence of a god that one of them will stop playing hide and seek with us and let us know he/she/it is really there in order to reinforce our belief. How about just popping in for a visit? Giant eye ball in the sky? Undeniably supernatural event witnessed by everyone on the planet? Come over for dinner and turn some water into wine for me?
Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:52 PM
Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:42 PM
Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:52 PM
Most theists are confident in the afterlife, and shame Atheists for their lost opportunities.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:12 PM
Most theists are confident in the afterlife, and shame Atheists for their lost opportunities.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:15 PM
Most theists are confident in the afterlife, and shame Atheists for their lost opportunities.
In contrast, I feel sorry for Theists because they are never actually able to grasp the true value of life and what it means to live. If more people believed that death meant they ceased to exist forever, the life extension movement would be vastly more advanced. We would have the funding, research, and drive as a species to make it happen.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:44 AM
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Edited by Elus, 28 April 2012 - 04:45 AM.
Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:09 AM
Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:35 PM
Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:43 PM
Evidence there is no God, evidence for Atheism.The lack of replies from theists only reinforce the idea that no amount of evidence can change the opinion of an irational mind.
Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:51 AM
Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:20 AM
Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:46 AM
Edited by dasheenster, 23 May 2012 - 03:46 AM.
Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:09 AM
You guys are so logical. With arguments such as these I should convert to atheism right now!Well a lot of schools of thought don't even promise to look out for contradictions. Look Rousseau, a believer in natural religion.
Are you suggesting that we shouldn't argue with these people? In my opinion, you can sometimes break them lose, if they have genes that might let thev break free. To land a harsh blow, I am building a strong inkling that shadowhawk is not one who is so lucky as to have such brilliant genes. I think you might be right, we might not be able to sway him into valuing logic/rationality.
Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:32 AM
Evidence there is no God, evidence for Atheism.
Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:18 PM
Slahzer: Evidence that god is not probable. Our world does not need a god to exist, but a god needs humanity to exist.
Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:46 AM
I don't know why many people view atheists as immoral. Just because our morality does not originate from some holy book does not mean we are less moral than religious folk.then it can just as easily be argued that atheism is a response to the human desire for the freedom to do whatever one wants without moral constraints or obligations.
Either a blind process of natural selection produces religious belief over time as a by-product with some selective advantage, or an Intelligent Mind designed humanity to naturally believe God exists.
~ WikipediaNatural selection is the gradual, non-random, process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution.
Edited by Slahzer, 26 May 2012 - 11:49 AM.
Posted 30 May 2012 - 01:35 AM
Slahzer: 'd like to ask you two questions
First, do you believe that the scientific theories that are largely accepted by the scientific community (those that contradict ID) are dead wrong ?
Secondly, I would like your personal answer to what would it take for you to reverse your position on the existence of God?
Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:09 AM
Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:22 AM
These are more minor theories you are referring to. Major theories such as the big bang and natural selection are quite well established. Minor theories within evolution might change, but that would not affect the fact that evolution occurs.Now to your questions, there are tens of thousands of scientific theories, some being disproved while others gain in evidence.
I am unaware of any fact that might prove the existence of god. Indeed I know many theists that say there is no evidence and that one needs faith.Though people could go about and continue a movement to show what facts are available to prove the very existence of a god,
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:20 PM
Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:02 PM
Science is a process, not a position and I agree it is a profitable process when it comes to learning things about the universe. As such, everything is open to scrutiny. That is what I agree with.These are more minor theories you are referring to. Major theories such as the big bang and natural selection are quite well established. Minor theories within evolution might change, but that would not affect the fact that evolution occurs.
Also why do you believe that Christianity is the right choice ?
I am unaware of any fact that might prove the existence of god. Indeed I know many theists that say there is no evidence and that one needs faith.
Posted 01 June 2012 - 06:11 PM
Posted 01 June 2012 - 06:54 PM
What profound thinking! Heavy. What else would one expect from you.In order for shadowhawk to reverse his position, it would most likely take a lobotomy. It is the only way to overcome the sheer amount of self delusion and brain washing he exhibits.
Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:26 AM
Did you bother to listen to any of the debates I posted? http://www.longecity...tes-in-england/
What do you accept as evidence?
Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:13 PM
What profound thinking! Heavy. What else would one expect from you.
Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:18 AM
I am not going to go through the entire thread, but if you point out a few good debates (particularly debates containing good religious arguments and concerning evidence for Christianity) then I will find the time to watch them.
For evidence I would like to know what evidence indicates that Christianity is the right religion (and not some egyptian knockoff).
Proof of miracles. Indication that the Bible is true.
In general modern evolutionary and cosmological theories make an omnipotent deity improbable and an extraordinary amount of evidence for such a deity would be needed to prove it's existence.
What do you view as good evidence (not arguments) for Christianity in particular?
Personally I view religions nothing more than detailed children stories.
Edited by shadowhawk, 05 June 2012 - 02:20 AM.
Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:40 AM
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