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[anagram]

the massive effect c60 gives forces me to ask the question whether I should give this to other people or not.
Don't get me wrong, I want to help other people, its just that I do not want c60 to become illegal or even worse, so ubiquitous that all the ass holes that you have ever known, become super assholes and are everywhere all the time.

let me explain my fear of global c60 use. since I took that fateful drop of c60, I have had the energy to make proper decisions all the time. Before C60, I used logic to come to conclusions every time a problem presented itself. after taking c60, I now have the energy to use logic to imagine the big picture , to be thinking all the time, and the energy to listen to what people say while truly understanding where they are coming from. Aka, the best scenario after taking c60.
And thank god that I'm still a down to earth person though, before c60 If someone would say something mean to me I would either think to myself I would have to change, or that this person is making a joke, and I still do believe those things.

Now I am able to see that most people are either entirely controlled by they're unpredictable sub consciences, or struggle to go against they're subconscious and fail miserably. literally, as I walk down the street in my town, I hear people only making either paranoid, complainy, or insane conversations that are entirely based on what every other person is doing. this worries me because the only change c60 made on my life was it gave me energy, which is the last thing these Neanderthal type humans need. i am all for simplicity but where ever these humans in life must be completely wrong, as if they are malfunctioning people. I hope I am not the only person here who realizes that not everything you do should be learned from TV or another person, but should be done for a purpose.

these people talk as If you shouldn't listen to absolutely everything they say because in they're speech there are moments that make no sense, and our culture makes these people believe that that is OK. Right now the world has no need for people who don't understand what they are doing in they're lives and or how not to be an unproductive, egocentric, asshole.

what I went through is not a complete summary, but I assume you guys have had experiences like this where you are listening to what someone is saying and you just as why? I don't mean to be so unforgiving but I have given logic to absolutely everything my who life, and know that it is a proper lifestyle. I enjoy my music based on the artists talent and the complexity of the music, not the specifically the sounds in it( I'm not a fucking monkey). I watch TV to laugh at the stupidity, understand the importance of logic, and feel inspired to reach a goal. someone please tell me an opinion on c60 and its impact on our cultural pile of shit people.

concerns, comments? please post away..

[Hebbeh]

the massive effect....impact on our cultural pile of shit people.

concerns, comments? please post away..

Please seek help before it's too late.

[d4shing]

wait his username is anagram.... maybe if we rearrange all the letters there's something coherent in here

[anagram]

you're right Hebbeh and dashing, i shouldn't have posted my question on longecity. top notch advice.

[YOLF]

Hi anagram,

I understand where you're coming from. Habbeh and Dashing (D' for Shing?) are trying to point out what I'll term a "stem-flaw," (well Dashing might just be looking for attention). When hebbeh says please seek help before it's too late, he's speaking from worry. He may not have ever experienced I'll go one step further and say that you're logic is probably bullet proof. However, your stem flaw is obvious, and it is a single wrong assumption that has led your logic into allegory. I also don't think Hebbeh and Dashing realize that beneath your stem-flaw is a very logical and ethical individual who got confused by a wrong assumption. This kind of stem-flaw often occurs as a result of either misinterpretation or a bad experience. If you knew what it was, and I'm fairly certain I can show you, we could find a better and more logical world. No one really believes in any kind of magic, and that's not what I'm offering. I can give you peace of mind and an unobstructed (or at least less obstructed... I'm not perfect either) logical capacity. C60 has no doubt given you more energy, but it's all a waste of time and thought if one's assumptions are wrong. PM me or send me a message at gmail/skype (same name).
-Just offering helpful thoughts

CC

[Freebytes]

Anagram, if you are analyzing the worldwide situation (which you cannot hope to achieve due to its complexity), have you evaluated your own role within it? Culture and logic are not entirely incompatible, but they are certainly heterogeneous. Yet, even if you try, you cannot escape cultural influences that have a tendency to confound any logical conclusions you draw. So, you must ask yourself, why are you even concerned with other people? If the world consisted of monkeys and humans, would you concern yourself with the monkeys? If these people are truly beneath you, why are you wasting your time even worrying about them? Lastly, before answering what the right choice is in any particular circumstance, you must also ask yourself, what constitutes 'right' and 'wrong' in the first place? If you have a moral obligation to anything, it is certainly to be good. Otherwise, morals are irrelevant. I think you are missing the big picture because it is bigger than you realize.

[anagram]

I understand that I may have gone a little overboard and made a complex and confusing rant but it was 2 in the morning and I was thinking about if being on c60 was what normal people feel like, you see I have terrible ADD and well, that explains it.

I will try to rewrite my point, but forgive my simplicity from here on, its a difficult subject.


when people are assholes, it is because in our early ancestors times, If someone were to do something stupid, others would make them feel

bad to learn and not repeat they're action again.

some people can go they're whole lives being assholes, even if it makes no sense, because it gives dopamine for the reason I stated above

its time people learn to recognize all other humans as friends and equals because our world is changing fast and stupidity is a terrible waste

there are people out there who are very confused and in they're sadness and anger, do drugs, or attack others by any means necessary because it gives them dopamine, makes them happy

the way our school system is set up, we are primed to attack one another like primal beasts, and its damaging our humanity and general well

being as a human race.

so I pose this question to you, as society destroys itself with interbreeding within countries of origin, bad education, and destroying the environment what do you think the future will be like. I must ask this question to you guys because you are the ones who refuse to let something go to waste, you are the ones who decided to do something important with your lives.
every time I see someone acting like an asshole, assuming that they have they're lives worked out, they are wasting life, time, and energy. im not suggesting some kind of genocide against people who cannot pass a moral exam, but I would like it if we had moral exams in school, to present a moral order in our society of destruction.

Edited by anagram, 19 November 2012 - 10:46 PM.

[somecallmetim]

Anagram,

All you can do is live your life to the best of your ability, and to treat others as you would like them to treat you - with kindness and respect. And if you do not receive kindness and respect in return, understand that they are coming from a place of pain and sadness - for a person who is truly happy would have no reason to act that way, so try to have compassion for them. I should mention that this does not mean that you should try to 'help' them, for doing so would infringe on their free will. Nor does it mean to allow them to infringe upon you - keep firm boundaries. And don't worry about what tomorrow brings - just be glad you have today to experience.

[sthira]

its time people learn to recognize all other humans as friends and equals because our world is changing fast and stupidity is a terrible waste

This is a good thought. Continue thinking this way. Imagine how much better we'd all be if people were just cool (eg, decent) towards each other instead of being assholes, as you say. And being nice, kind, gentle, compassionate does not mean being weak. I think loads of people think they're big and strong and impressive by being mean, by bullying others through shame and ridicule and outright physical violence.

You ask what's the future going to be like. No one knows. But we must change. Our dealings and interactions with each other must, must, must change. We cannot stay on our violent course.

So how do we spread goodness to even those who are idiots? I like your line of thinking; but I really don't think it'll be a through more morality tests. We've had enough morality tests. Nor is the answer religion. Religion divides. One answer may be closer to yogic principles, the sutras, for example, where all of us slowly, gently learn self control through body awareness. By recognizing our own limitations and weaknesses we then strive to be more compassionate toward others'. This isn't any big answer -- it's one humble step among many -- but we must change the ways we interact with one another. Just don't be a dick -- that's a start toward changing the world for the better.

[anagram]

I've taken what you have all said into account. Thank you all for taking the time to write what you had to say, I really needed some guidance. stay strong fellow longevists!

[Freebytes]

You should read Utilitarianism by John Stuart Mill. You can find it online here: http://www.utilitari...m.com/mill1.htm and while it is short, its content is dense and involving. Do not be confused by the catchphrase of "Greatest good for the greatest number" that is thrown away. The real concept is to attempt to quantify happiness and maximize it. This can happen for an individual over a group in some circumstances, but normally small things for a large number of people is the best result.

For example, when I am about to get angry and say something hurtful, I question myself by asking, "Is this action going to result in me being happier than the pain I am going to cause this other person?" If I will be happier than someone else will be sad by saying something mean to someone else, I should say it. However, this is never the case. No only will someone else be hurt by my words, I will also feel regret which is wrong. Therefore, I would abstain. The only exception is for the purpose of discipline. In some cases, you must say things that will hurt a person in the short term but will benefit them in the long run.

The concept has been deemed nihilistic, but that is certainly not the case. The objective is to increase happiness in the world. If nothing existed, there would be a quantifiable happiness of zero. If too many people existed in the world, the overpopulation would result in diminishing returns until a point at which people would be unhappy, and the result would be negative. A happy medium is the objective. If more people in this world adhered to such principles and evaluated the potential outcome of their actions, life would be better for everyone. No one can have perfect clairvoyance, but that does not eliminate the moral obligations of an individual to try to be a good person.

[anagram]

hey freebytes, thank you for posting this novel, however happiness is not the root of my problem. I am happy on my own, but when people talk to me and obviously don't have they're intentions straightened out, It blunts any hope i have that our future will be a good one. I'm really not an unhappy person, its just that this topic was begging to be engaged.