LONGECITY

Martyin Jetpack gets backed by China

The New Zealand company behind the Martin Jetpack could well be a step closer to achieving this dream thanks to a major investment from Chinese R&D company KuangChi Science, which announced the purchase of a controlling stake in Martin late last year -- a significant injection of funds that will allow the company to take the Jetpack from prototype to reality.

It comes at a busy time for Martin, which has just listed on the Australian Securities Exchange, raising AU$27 million ($21 million, £13.6 million) through the IPO. The invention that started life as a late-night project in a New Zealand garage could soon be coming to garages around the world.

But it's not just funding that KuangChi brings to the table. The Chinese company has already established itself as a world leader in metamaterials -- artificial materials that have the potential to make aircraft lighter and more aerodynamic -- as well as aeronautical technology in the near-space environment. For Martin, all these elements come together to create a perfect partnership that will help bring the Martin Jetpack to commercial buyers and everyday consumers much quicker.

According to Martin Aircraft CEO Peter Coker, all this means a major shift in the way the average person can think about jetpacks.

"When we originally started we said, 'We're flying the dream,'" said Coker. "Well, the dream is actually here now."

http://www.cnet.com/...s-within-reach/

So please propose an experiment that can decide whether nature has randomness or not. Physics is an empirical science but all you've got to offer is empty sophism. 

Rats have always been blamed for causing bubonic plague outbreaks in Europe, but now researchers claim they’ve been unfairly maligned and that it was actually gerbils that caused repeated epidemics of the disease.

The revelation comes from University of Oslo researchers who say they have compelling evidence that outbreaks of the plague, which killed millions in Europe after it arrived in the 14th century, can be traced back to great gerbils (Rhombomys opimus) from central Asia.

They say that the plague-carrying fleas flourished on the rodents before making their way to Europe via the Silk Road trading route." >>>> more

[the victims are not dead and will demand-and get their civil rights on revival!]

So please propose an experiment that can decide whether nature has randomness or not. Physics is an empirical science but all you've got to offer is empty sophism. 

 "empty sophism"  amusing:) This is a philosophy thread that's been kicked out of philosophy for being 'too scientific'. I of course couldn't propose any such experiment as I dont use randomness in my models, because I dont concede randomness exists anywhere.

Subject to a general view where "anything is possible" randomness could not be possible in a causal model as you state. But nor could it run alongside causality eg at the parameter I guess you mean between them: what would happen? Some kind of barrier? If you test such a barrier it would have to be by analogy. In every case in history where randomness was asacribed, laws were eventually found eg diffusion of a colour dye into a tank of water.

By randomness I dont mean linear progression is absent, but where there are no laws at all.

There is no such known nor knowable state.

A flat distribution will occur when you have a maths formula for picking equal quantities of all possible numbers in a controlled experiment. This is not randomness but contrivance and is used in lotteries to make sure there isn't a build up of numbers. The fact there are numbers at all means there is limits, and limits mean laws.

In fact limits and laws can be synonymous.

If you refer to the quantum world, prediction is indeed possible there, although presently it is done aggregately i.e. probabilistically, and was demonstrated with the Kinetic method on clouds of gas by Einstein (who also proved the atom exists). There are many unknowns in QM but this doesn't have anything to do with 'randomness', which I reiterate is a primitive, historical term for complexity. You're not alone in being fooled by it, the great Maxwell was, and so was science before Einstein, and also after Einstein when brilliantly stupid explanations of what was happening in the world of the small were/are churned out.

Crowds are predicted where the individuals are too complex to predict because they cannot be measured, for various reasons. In crowds of men, because we cant measure the actions of the brain yet.

Quantum Archaeology advances

1. that we will be able to map and measure the brain, and

2. to map and measure the environment, and by retrodiction

3. map any past environment within the limits of the project - which is the resurrection of people.

Although I think Quantum Archaeology/resurrection has to move from philosophy/speculative to science I dont know if science alone could pursue it because so many disciplines are involved? I dunno.

But pioneers and crackpots are identical until the pioneer is successful.

 

600 year old forest grow in only 10 years!

http://nextbigfuture...-ten-years.html

If a piece of land is free from human intervention, a forest will naturally self-seed and take over within a period of around 600 to 1,000 years. Akira Miyawaki’s methodology amplifies that growth process to establish a mature, native forest in ten years.

It takes six steps.

https://www.ted.com/...ere?language=en

1) you start with soil. We identify what nutrition the soil lacks.
2) we identify what species we should be growing in this soil, depending on climate.
3) We then identify locally abundant biomass available in that region to give the soil whatever nourishment it needs. This is typically an agricultural or industrial byproduct — like chicken manure or press mud, a byproduct of sugar production — but it can be almost anything. We’ve made a rule that it must come from within 50 kilometers of the site, which means we have to be flexible.

Once we’ve amended the soil to a depth of one meter:

4. we plant saplings that are up to 80 cm high, packing them in very densely — three to five saplings per square meter.

5. The forest itself must cover a 100-square-meter minimum area. This grows into a forest so dense that after eight months, sunlight can’t reach the ground. At this point, every drop of rain that falls is conserved, and every leaf that falls is converted into humus. The more the forest grows, the more it generates nutrients for itself, accelerating growth. This density also means that individual trees begin competing for sunlight — another reason these forests grow so fast.

6. The forest needs to be watered and weeded for the first two or three years, at which point it becomes self-sustaining

But after that, it’s best to disturb the forest as little as possible to allow its ecosystem — including animals — to become established." >> more

[In it's infancy 100 years ago stylometry is developed. It is like forensics and Quantum Archaeology methods!]

https://www.youtube....er/TEDEducation

[Sherlock Holmes was the first public introduction to forensics. Forensics = Quantum Archaeology, but digitalised where it accelerates on Moore's Law.]

Bionic Brain to Limbs testing successfully.

First in men then in robot!

First, feeling is restored to the forearm by transplanting some muscle and nerve tissue into the arm – usually from the leg. This boosts the electrical signals from the brain to the arm.

Next, the affected hand is amputated to make way for a robotic prosthesis. Sensors in the new hand respond to the electrical impulses from the brain, allowing the patient to carry out normal activities.

Following comprehensive rehabilitation, the technique restored a high level of hand function, reveals a report in The Lancet medical journal. " more>>

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3SkHuCrhZ
 

Cancer intervention systems successfully modelled in Supercomputer

San Diego Supercomputer Center (SDSC), Moores Cancer Center, and Department of Neurosciences at the University of California, San Diego, is shedding light on the underlying genetic mechanisms responsible for glioblastomas (GBM), highly aggressive and infiltrative brain tumors. Using SDSC’s data-intensive Gordon supercomputer, the partners were able to identify a pyramid hierarchical network of “coherent gene modules” that regulate glioblastoma genes." more>>>

http://www.hpcwire.c...y-brain-cancer/

Molecular Biology and Evolution.

 Mount Sinai researcher Joel Dudley has led a new study that suggests that the very changes specific to human evolution may have come at a cost, contributing to the genetic architecture underlying schizophrenia traits in modern humans." more>>>

http://medicalxpress...lues-roots.html

Ancestral gene resurrection - Wiki

"Thanks to the improvement of algorithms and of better sequencing and synthesis techniques, the method was developed further in the early 2000s to allow the resurrection of much more ancient genes.^[4] Over the next decade, ancestral protein resurrection was developed as a strategy to reveal the mechanisms and dynamics of protein evolution.....

The ancient protein is inferred by means of phylogenetic methods and a DNA molecule coding for that protein is synthesized. This DNA is expressed in cultured cells or in vitro whereafter the obtained ancestral protein may be tested for its properties. Sequences of extant proteins with the same function obtained from more or less distant related organisms are aligned and the best-fitting evolutionary model is determined. The ancestral protein is reconstructed by maximum likelihood. This virtual sequence of aminoacids allows for the synthesis of oligonucleotides that are subsequently assembled into the gene for the ancestral protein. This gene is amplified by means of PCR and transcribed in vitro or in vivo. The resulting ancestral protein is eventually purified and ready to be tested for its properties.^[1][6]

Resurrected proteins...

" more>>

[note this is 2015 before hypercomputing. The amazing work much done manually is like pushing a wheel barrow to Mars. In the near future we will be able to resurrect never living states and human ancestors and extinct lines faithfully and test them as well.]

classic:

classic

If an experiment showed that identical initial conditions produced non-identical outcomes, would this not prove that world had true randomness in it? The problem would be to show that the initial conditions are truly identical I guess. 

Brains are the most complex structures in the known universe. I think it's safe to assume that if one does not get the brain-structures and life-details *exactly* right, the simulation will fail. Since contents of people's minds cannot be observed, I do not see any way of getting the brain structures correct. We simply lack the data from the minds themselves, as all minds are private. QA will never be able to solve this as throwing *math* or *computing power* at the problem does not help.  

If an experiment showed that identical initial conditions produced non-identical outcomes, would this not prove that world had true randomness in it? The problem would be to show that the initial conditions are truly identical I guess. 

True randomness would prove true randomness!

Nor could you measure it nor even exist in randomness since no limits would exist, therefore no parameters would exist therefore nothing would exist! Because your body operates by laws without which it could not. Your heart may or not pump, and you may or may not be a fish, or another universe, or nothing at all.
 

Einstein conceded his philosophy was based on their being laws of Nature which he was trying 'in a wildly speculative way to capture'.

One needs some immutable axioms.

Man is the measure of all things. Truth exists.

Logic is acceptable.

One cannot make argument to the unknown.

etc

Which is why all sciences must defer to philosophy, the master study from which all subjects, including reasoning, derive. Without philosophy mathematicians and scientists fall into zillions of delusions.

Einstein wasn't the greatest scientist of his day and an indifferent mathematician, but he was easily the greatest philosopher of his age and had painstakingly mastered the basic truths.

Brains are the most complex structures in the known universe.

Yes , known to us, and only at the moment. Superintelligence will accelerate complexity (one facet of intelligence)
 

I think it's safe to assume that if one does not get the brain-structures and life-details *exactly* right, the simulation will fail.

No. You just need them to be absolutely right at the relevant minimum scale. Below that it doesn't matter. By the ship of Theseus it doesn't matter whether you cave calculated the exact molecule in the exact place at the moment of death, just it's relevant function.
 

Since contents of people's minds cannot be observed,

Depends what you mean by observed. You obviously dont mean by a human eye, but mathematically you can probabilistically and deterministically (same things though everyone muddles this) calculate what it *must have been*. And without any doubt. Any error you make might be noticed by the butterfly effect. I do think it likely that we can observe the past using hypercomputing (that just means future computing), and you can make estimates of when this will be possible by looking at acceleration trends like Kurzweil's LOAR. But also noting developments in A.I. which will decide Man's future.

 all minds are private.  

Ah the barrier theory again! No barriers. Not even the skull nor time by our deaths. The cosmos is demonstrably one interactive system. A human mind and a geology sample are as much relational by the laws of physics as everything else is.

QA is thus another assault on the human ego, which is evolved to defend against such notions of non-uniqueness.

It is inconstant to think we can calculate there was a winter in 1600 but cannot calculate what a caveman thought, except  the size of calculation must be different.

Nothing exist alone. In the model of space and time it is connected by myriad chains of causation from it's most secret states to the future.

QA isn't prohibited by science it is inevitable and predicted by science. The only way it couldn't happen is if the cosmos ceased to exist.
 

QA will never be able to solve this as throwing *math* or *computing power* at the problem does not help.  

Says you.
 

Here's an example- today.

Google's artificial intelligence breakthrough

Google's A.I. learns to play and beat humans at computer games.

and technology is jetting ahead (today)

Australian researchers have created the world's first 3D-printed jet engine in a manufacturing breakthrough that engineers expect will lead to cheaper, lighter and more fuel-efficient jets.

The partnership between Monash University and spin-out company Amaero Engineering has captured the attention of Airbus, Boeing and defence contractor Raytheon."

"An international team of scientists has succeeded in growing a leg muscle in a laboratory" more>>

Google's DeepMind Interview (today)

http://www.33rdsquar...-deep-mind.html

video interview

Remains to be seen if Google can move isolated learning to general learning algorithms (the Holy Grail in A.I.)

A typical board meeting @ Google:)

A new study has reconstructed the final moments in the life of Pharaoh Senebkay, an early king in the Abydos Dynasty from 1650 to 1600 B.C.E." more

http://theweek.com/s...y-killed-battle

Rapid Data Transfer portends Light Computing

To date, information in server farms is transported directly between individual computers via glass fibre cables. Semiconductor lasers generate light pulses; the information is coded in the changes to light intensity. The faster light intensity is varied, the faster information is transferred. Maximum speed is limited by fundamental physical laws, however. Therefore, the RUB team headed by Prof Dr Martin Hofmann and PD Dr Nils Gerhardt does not modulate light intensity but uses light polarisation instead." more>>>

 http://phys.org/news...um-physics.html

Brains are the most complex structures in the known universe. I think it's safe to assume that if one does not get the brain-structures and life-details *exactly* right, the simulation will fail. Since contents of people's minds cannot be observed, I do not see any way of getting the brain structures correct. We simply lack the data from the minds themselves, as all minds are private. QA will never be able to solve this as throwing *math* or *computing power* at the problem does not help.  

Read the Whole Brain Emulation roadmap by Sandberg. It's free online via google. Made me a lot more certain about brain emulation.

Projector pens

a step away from  internet projection from headband

http://www.designbuz...creative-ideas/

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Scientists are going gaga over the recent discovery of a baby woolly rhino.

The pristine specimen of the tiny extinct rhino--the only one of its type ever found--was discovered in permafrost along the bank of a stream in Siberia's Sakha Republic, The Siberian Times reported." more>>>

http://www.huffingto..._n_6752892.html

evolution:

Head Transplants approach

"The world's first attempt to transplant a human head will be launched this year at a surgical conference in the US. The move is a call to arms to get interested parties together to work towards the surgery.

The idea was first proposed in 2013 by Sergio Canavero of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group in Italy. He wants to use the surgery to extend the lives of people whose muscles and nerves have degenerated or whose organs are riddled with cancer. Now he claims the major hurdles, such as fusing the spinal cord and preventing the body's immune system from rejecting the head, are surmountable, and the surgery could be ready as early as 2017.£ more>>>

danger of young bodies being  "snatched" by paying clients.

Scanning technology needs to advance

 

 all minds are private.  

 

Ah the barrier theory again! No barriers. Not even the skull nor time by our deaths. The cosmos is demonstrably one interactive system. A human mind and a geology sample are as much relational by the laws of physics as everything else is.

 

QA is thus another assault on the human ego, which is evolved to defend against such notions of non-uniqueness.

 

It is inconstant to think we can calculate there was a winter in 1600 but cannot calculate what a caveman thought, except  the size of calculation must be different.

 

Nothing exist alone. In the model of space and time it is connected by myriad chains of causation from it's most secret states to the future.

 

QA isn't prohibited by science it is inevitable and predicted by science. The only way it couldn't happen is if the cosmos ceased to exist.
 

 

 

You cannot observe a mind, so yes there is a real barrier. Yet, in order to "simulate" a dead person you need to get the contents of their mind exactly right, i.e. the simulated mind must experience exactly what the real person would have experienced during their entire lifetime. Please explain in some detail how you will verify that the simulated contents of the minds are the "correct" ones? 

ps. please do not use the argument that since "everything" is connected you "somehow" divine this information from thin air. you've already conceded indirectly that you don't/cannot simulate the whole universe from the big bang since that computation is literally too big to be completed in this universe, so that avenue will remain closed. 

QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY.

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.


Micro Map of the past being created.

• Quantum computers and new maths to calculate detailed histories and memories of everyone dead.
• Face and body reconstructions a million years old already achieved: mind reconstructions coming.
• 106 billion people to be resurrected within 40 years.

• A Child's Guide to Quantum Archaeology (300 words) <~ start here!!!
• Short version (3,000 words)

• The Quantum Archaeology Grid

• Recursive Civilization

• XYLEM

• Turing Church Workshop Paper

MAIN ARTICLE:~~>(working: Nine pages)
QuantumArchaeology




TEDxDeExctinction talks website »

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 all minds are private.  

 

Ah the barrier theory again! No barriers. Not even the skull nor time by our deaths. The cosmos is demonstrably one interactive system. A human mind and a geology sample are as much relational by the laws of physics as everything else is.

 

QA is thus another assault on the human ego, which is evolved to defend against such notions of non-uniqueness.

 

It is inconstant to think we can calculate there was a winter in 1600 but cannot calculate what a caveman thought, except  the size of calculation must be different.

 

Nothing exist alone. In the model of space and time it is connected by myriad chains of causation from it's most secret states to the future.

 

QA isn't prohibited by science it is inevitable and predicted by science. The only way it couldn't happen is if the cosmos ceased to exist.
 

 

 

You cannot observe a mind, so yes there is a real barrier.

 

>>>> the mind is the working brain. Project blue brain demonstrate a simple working mind with one cortical column.<<<<

 

 

 

Yet, in order to "simulate" a dead person you need to get the contents of their mind exactly right, i.e. the simulated mind must experience exactly what the real person would have experienced during their entire lifetime. Please explain in some detail how you will verify that the simulated contents of the minds are the "correct" ones? 

 

>>>>you cross - check iot with other refence points in teh Quantum Archaeology grod, which is a dynamic grid with all known events plotted, plus all gaps accurated plotted using the laws of physics and statistics.<<<<

 

 

 

ps. please do not use the argument that since "everything" is connected you "somehow" divine this information from thin air. you've already conceded indirectly that you don't/cannot simulate the whole universe from the big bang since that computation is literally too big to be completed in this universe, so that avenue will remain closed. 

 

>>>some things are less likely than others and they therefore carry different weighting probabilistically. But causally nothing is accidental. With enough computing it is revealed!

 

 

 

>>>I( would think that is a big simulation, but it is already being done in progressive detail...in fact the complexity trend of a universe simulation is speeding faster than Moore's Law.

Nick Bostrom and Farnk Tipler have given estimates of the complexity and computing power needed.

 

A human being has only so man y thoughts and movements he can do.  So if you cdan simulated each perm of them you have the ability to resurrect him.

 

Then you eliminate one's that cant have been by dross referencing with knowable truths (events) in a huge matrix. This is becoming possible in computing.

 

You only need the relevant bits fora specific resurrection. You dont need to calculate the universe.

 

It;s never from think air, but the use of statistics in Classical Physics is under developed, whereas in Quantum physics it is highly developed and the basis of quantum mechanics.

 

FYI I come from a stats tradition and was follishly in the occult before I discovered reality of science and falsehood of religion. But on the way learned to calcuolate astrology which was a cultural base of science.

 

eg the Ephemeris is about positions of stars and how they interact

 

Ptelomy and Newton came this route, and it is great training for detailed science work & gave rise to the Periodic table.

 

The cosmos is utterly ordered and that is the case for the star and the atom.

 

 

 

This looks like random chaos, but astronomers have learned it is absolutely ordered, with each speck of dust existing only by and absolutely following laws. Prediction and retrodiction are thus possible

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