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[Former racetam user]

Was wondering if anyone ever experienced symptoms of withdrawl from stopping aniracetam or piracetam after long term use. i've been experiencing horrible panic attacks and I'm afraid i'm going to have a seizure.....

Edited by Former racetam user, 30 January 2013 - 10:56 AM.

[platypus]

Was wondering if anyone ever experienced symptoms of withdrawl from stopping aniracetam or piracetam after long term use. i've been experiencing horrible panic attacks and I'm afraid i'm going to have a seizure.....

Don't feed the troll.

[Former racetam user]

the first time I stopped, I also stopped drinking alcohol, so I automatically pointed the finger at the alcohol because I haven't experienced anything negative from Aniracetam. I've been to hospital 3 times, got some benzo's and after a week I felt normal. I figured the alcohol withdrawal was over with, so I decided to start up the Aniracetam again, after a few weeks I stopped once again and the same thing is happening. its the worst feeling i've ever experienced in my life....

[LBGSHI]

Sounds like you're suffering from an anxiety attack. While aniracetam interacts with receptors for dopamine, serotonin, and acetylcholine (http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/11412837), these effects in themselves are fairly mild. In any of the multitude of studies performed, including long-term studies, there has never been a reported case of negative side-effects necessitating termination of aniracetam supplementation. There have also been studies specifically targeted at determining whether or not supplementing with the various racetams could lead to dependency (including this one concerning aniracetam specifically: http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/3570103), and these resulted in negative findings - no addiction, no withdrawal.

However, assuming you're a person already prone to anxiety (as I assume you are), then taking aniracetam to reduce anxiety, then suddenly halting supplementation and returning to your pre-supplementation level of anxiety could certainly make you feel panicked. I suggest either stocking up on aniracetam and keeping a consistent supply to avoid lapses in dosage, or staying off of aniracetam once you adjust to the lack of its anti-anxiety effects. If you still have some aniracetam, you could also try taking small doses of it to taper off.

All this being said, if I had to render a judgment, I would say that this issue was not caused by aniracetam nor the lack thereof, but by an underlying issue of anxiety, unrelated to supplementation.

[Former racetam user]

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your very detailed response. yea the aniracetam definitely makes me feel better when I take it, i've been tapering off, and I haven't had any attacks since tuesday. I actually stopped aniracetam completely and now I find that I am much more irritated then when I was on aniracetam. i'm afraid to get back on it because the last couple times I developed dependency within a week or two. I have an interview tomarrow I hope my brain keeps continuing to balance out the chemical/ neurotransmitters and what not. i've been exercising everyday, regardless if it throws me into a panic attack or not, but in the long run it seems to speed up the balancing process.

Edited by Former racetam user, 31 January 2013 - 11:49 PM.

[Thorsten3]

Was wondering if anyone ever experienced symptoms of withdrawl from stopping aniracetam or piracetam after long term use. i've been experiencing horrible panic attacks and I'm afraid i'm going to have a seizure.....

Don't feed the troll.

Why is he a troll? Previous behaviour? Or because he dares to publically criticize a compound which, according to many misguided users on this forum, is apparantly the cure to all of our ailments - depression included, lol (no offence, but people who suffer with an actual majorly depressive illness ain't gonna be reaching for the nearest racetam).

I see absolutely no reason why someone might feel negative side effects after discontinuing a substance which they have been taking long term.

Accept that the racetams don't work for most people! There is a small minority of you on here where they are apparantly the most amazing thing ever. But that's all you are. A small minority.

That's not to say I am against the racetams. I think if they work for you, that's great. But if they don't work for you, people have a right to write about that too.

Edited by Thorsten2, 03 February 2013 - 11:10 AM.

[renfr]

Was wondering if anyone ever experienced symptoms of withdrawl from stopping aniracetam or piracetam after long term use. i've been experiencing horrible panic attacks and I'm afraid i'm going to have a seizure.....

Don't feed the troll.

Why is he a troll? Previous behaviour? Or because he dares to publically criticize a compound which, according to many misguided users on this forum, is apparantly the cure to all of our ailments - depression included, lol (no offence, but people who suffer with an actual majorly depressive illness ain't gonna be reaching for the nearest racetam).

I see absolutely no reason why someone might feel negative side effects after discontinuing a substance which they have been taking long term.

Accept that the racetams don't work for most people! There is a small minority of you on here where they are apparantly the most amazing thing ever. But that's all you are. A small minority.

That's not to say I am against the racetams. I think if they work for you, that's great. But if they don't work for you, people have a right to write about that too.

I second that.
Now it seems like it's impossible to criticize a product or report side effects without being called a troll.
It seems that the parathion troll has been successful in causing confusion and arousing suspicion for every new thread by new users in this forum.

[LBGSHI]

Agreed; we need to give people the benefit of the doubt, and not allow the miniscule group of trolls at Longecity to damage our ability to provide good advice and support. I don't think the OP of this thread is a troll.

[BioFreak]

Yap, we can not call everyone a troll who has adverse effects only a tiny minority of the population has. There are many reasons why people could react differently to certain drugs. Actually it's dangerous and irresponsible to do it.

Besides, its harsh to call someone a troll, even for someone attributing his side effects to something when indeed its not the substance causing this, because this person will most likely act on his best judgment. And we can't assume that everybody who has unlikely adverse effects creates false claims on purpose. Instead, we should find out if other substances could have caused it and clarify the matter, if possible.

Unless we want a community where everyone fears to be called a troll and so does not post side effects anymore. Quite dangerous for the community, long term, actually.

[Debaser]

I can honestly say I've never had anything even close to withdrawal from aniracetam. I'm not saying it's impossible, but to me it sounds like you might even be taking something else. Where did you get it from?

the first time I stopped, I also stopped drinking alcohol, so I automatically pointed the finger at the alcohol because I haven't experienced anything negative from Aniracetam. I've been to hospital 3 times, got some benzo's and after a week I felt normal. I figured the alcohol withdrawal was over with, so I decided to start up the Aniracetam again, after a few weeks I stopped once again and the same thing is happening. its the worst feeling i've ever experienced in my life....

You were in hospital 3 times due to withdrawal from aniracetam? It seems hard to believe (or have I misunderstood?). It sounds like you have other problems if you are having issues with alcoholism and benzos. How much aniracetam were you taking exactly? Was it a megadose?

[Former racetam user]

I got the Aniracetam from smartpowders.com, I was prescribed Lorazepam 1mg's and was diagnosed with an anxiety attack. I only took 4 pills out of the 20 and I am feeling fine now. I really miss aniracetam, I felt awesome and made me the most alive in a group whenever I went out with my friends. music was great, verbal fluency, fast reflexes for sure...etc. the only other supplement that gave me a similar problem, was the time I took phenibut for about 5 days in a row and stopped. I've never had an anxiety attack before this. the second time I had a bad experience from aniracetam I had been off alcohol for 2 months. I have some piracetam left, and i'm thinking about starting a regimen of that and see how that goes, since i've never had a problem with it, even when mega dosing. when first starting aniracetam, early 2012, I was taking 750mg capsules and that was actually making my head feel slighty heavy and foggy, so I would open the capsule and take half to a quarter of that dose, and it seemed to work well.

Edited by Former racetam user, 04 February 2013 - 11:49 PM.

[Former racetam user]

another thing I might add is taking the choline bitartrate along with the aniracetam, worked well together at first. later on, i've noticed whenever I took it with choline it made me depressed, so I started taking the aniracetam without choline and it made me happier and excited about life again. i've tried it with and without multiple times to know for sure.

[Babychris]

Was wondering if anyone ever experienced symptoms of withdrawl from stopping aniracetam or piracetam after long term use. i've been experiencing horrible panic attacks and I'm afraid i'm going to have a seizure.....

Don't feed the troll.

1300 post on a "brain etc forum" and you still that "stupid"... Nootropic don't make the man

[Kompota]

You have been taking a benzodiazepine (I am a sufferer myself, short-term and rather low-dose, still got into protracted withdrawal), yet the primary suspect for your issues is Aniracetam ? Weird.

[platypus]

Well, after the recent trolling I just wasn't sure.

[Former racetam user]

You have been taking a benzodiazepine (I am a sufferer myself, short-term and rather low-dose, still got into protracted withdrawal), yet the primary suspect for your issues is Aniracetam ? Weird.

" I was prescribed Lorazepam 1mg's and was diagnosed with an anxiety attack. I only took 4 pills out of the 20" wasn't addicted to the Benzo from only 4 pills

[Former racetam user]

I'm not trying to give Aniracetam a bad rap. I don't discredit the racetam, I think it has helped me in many ways, especially in the early usage. with that said I was only hoping there was someone out there who might have an answer.

[LBGSHI]

I think my answer was pretty solid, and covered all bases.

[nupi]

I'm not trying to give Aniracetam a bad rap. I don't discredit the racetam, I think it has helped me in many ways, especially in the early usage. with that said I was only hoping there was someone out there who might have an answer.

I think you got anxiety from messing around with the Phenibut, it's well known for bad results upon repeated use. Read ScienceGuy's Anxiety recommendations for a couple of ideas (Relora and Bacopa, spring to mind, maybe Mg and Theanine as well)

[Former racetam user]

I think my answer was pretty solid, and covered all bases.

no doubt at all and I appreciated that, I guess I used my words wrong. I was maybe hoping I could find someone who had the same experiences because the users i've been trying to get ahold of had simular symptoms and have posted titles from 2010 on other websites, and maybe this one can't rememmber. I found other cases where people couldn't take certain kinds of racetams. like nooept have him severe anxiety attacks, but oxy was fine.

Edited by Former racetam user, 07 February 2013 - 08:43 PM.

[Former racetam user]

honestly, people I have nothing esle to blame for my anxiety attacks, but own brain chemistry vs racetams. I haven't used phenibut long term because I was aware of its dangers. its unfortunate for me to find out I can't even have Piracetam anymore along with Aniracetam. I took 1000mg of piracetam, which used to be absolutely fine with my brain chemistry, through me into another slow emerging anxiety attack. first hour into it, felt somewhat normal, creative, and my mind was a little speedy. 2 hours into it, my head started to get the feeling I usually get before an anxiety attack, tingling, heavy, detached from reality, and motions start to seem quite a bit off, then there is the fear. took a half of benzo , which I only use in emergencies , then decided I needed another half. I am no going to commit myself to stay away from all racetam's and I will continue to post my results and maybe I can find out why this has happend to me. thanks everyone for your thoughts, opinions, information, help, etc!

Edited by Former racetam user, 07 February 2013 - 08:58 PM.