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[mastercowboy]

A strange thing happened to me last week.I was on Inositol at 1tsp twice per day for about a week.I was taking some Choline Bitartrate also at random times with Inositol,about 500-1000mg each dose.The Choline intake was not steady.Also i was drinking Coffe regularly these days.Then after reading about meditation i decided to try some.

I did only 10 mins of it because my back hurts when standing on the floor this way.I can't say i felt anything special.Then next day in the morning i took my Inositol only,without Cholne and i tried meditation one more time for 10-15 mins.I didn't notice anything again.The same day at about noon i felt a burning sensation in my right inner thigh.Also i felt one of my vertabrae hurting,between lumbar and thoracic area.I have a history with herniated discs,but it was the first time i could feel so intense the pain when touching the area or just sitting in car seat.I did some weight lifting the previous days and maybe this triggered this,but i felt only after noon,not in the morning that is usual reaction after training.

I thought that my pain in my spine had pinched a nerve and had this strange sensation on my right side of inner thigh skin.So i did some exercises to reduce pressure on my supposed pinched nerve but didn't help at all (eg Mc Kenzie).So i thought that something else was going on and the next day i discovered some small red pimples like herpes on groin area on inner thigh.Since then my inner thigh has a burning sensation but only when touched,especially by clothes!The burning sensation is noticed at a lower level on the same side of my belly and the lumbar area,down in my back,but only on skin.Also noticed that higher of the groin,where the lymph nodes are located the area is swollen and tender to touch.I use 200mg Nimesulide to alleviate symptoms and be able to walk freely.

I have read a theory that the herpes virus lives in the spine.So maybe a pinched nerve could trigger its growth.What do you think about this?

Just for the record,i didn't have any sexual intercourse lately,so any virus transmission can be exluded i think,at least this way.Please note that this is the first time that this happens to me!!

I have stopped all Inositol,Choline and Caffeine since this happened.I have tried Tea Tree Oil on the rash area but doesn't seem to help.I haven't visited a doctor yet so i am not sure if it is herpes or anyhting else like fungus,but i will go next week for sure.

Edited by mastercowboy, 17 February 2013 - 07:29 AM.

[What'sAllThisThen]

Herpes can remain dormant before any symptoms appear so there was viral transmission at some point, even if not recent. Whether any type of injury or pinched nerve could trigger an outbreak, I do not know. Stress, lowered immune system, etc could likely trigger outbreaks though. An increase or excessive L-Arginine could also lead to an outbreak, while L-Lysine may help prevent/relieve one.

[mastercowboy]

I see that some users voted negatives for my post.It is confirmed the saying "people tend to hate what they don't understand".I am really sorry i posted this.I thought you were open mind persons and could help.

Please delete my thread.

[niner]

Longecity policy is not to delete threads except under extraordinary circumstances. I think people may be reacting negatively to the suggestion that meditation could cause a herpes outbreak. I'll edit the title to make it less controversial.

[mastercowboy]

The doc said it is Herpes Zoster,if anyone interested.Also said that was triggered by the spine cord injury...But he didn't know what is Inositol or Choline !!!

[Luminosity]

Well, that's better than some possiblities. Sometimes foods or other things that don't agree with you could contribute to a situation like this, so remain alert to this possibility. I would not drink soda, acidic things, or junk food right now.

If you really want to delete this thread you can try the report button on the botton and explain what you regret posting it, etc. They can delete if if they want to.

Edited by Luminosity, 21 February 2013 - 06:35 AM.

[nowayout]

It is better to go to a dermatologist rather than asking random people on the internet to diagnose you.

[Luminosity]

He went to a doctor and got a diagnosis.

[MrHappy]

The doc said it is Herpes Zoster,if anyone interested.Also said that was triggered by the spine cord injury...But he didn't know what is Inositol or Choline !!!

Herpes zoster is also known as 'chicken pox' and is highly contagious. Most people get it as a child. It can be responsible for causing shingles in adults. If you've had it as a child, you can re-trigger it as an adult, if your immune system is lacking.

[nowayout]

The doc said it is Herpes Zoster,if anyone interested.Also said that was triggered by the spine cord injury...But he didn't know what is Inositol or Choline !!!

Sorry to hear that. Yes, shingles can be very painful. He is treating you with valacyclovir, I hope.

[mastercowboy]

It goes away slowly without any meds.It takes 2-3 weeks to make its cycle.The doc told me it is most common in adults over 50 years old but i am mid 30's...

I have to make a correction here.Where i have typed "spine cord" i was just meant "spine".Bad translation,because english is not my mother language.

[nowayout]

It goes away slowly without any meds.It takes 2-3 weeks to make its cycle.

Yes, but a lot of people get long lasting pain syndromes from it, which is why it makes sense to treat it to try to mitigate its effects.

[mastercowboy]

I still have burning sensation in my thigh...the doc said the symptoms may insist for weeks or months until dissapear copmlpetely...

Edited by mastercowboy, 25 February 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[BLimitless]

Yes meditation CAN cause the release of these things. It is not really commonly known how much control we truly have over our bodies. A person can assume control of their own heartbeat, even the very release & breakdown of their neurotransmitters in a deep meditation, even communicating with the lifeforms symbiotic within themselves through the low-level language the universe itself operates on. It's possible to meditate yourself into suicide even, let alone something as mundane as a herpes outbreak.

When a person releases the Kundalini they may realise they have opened themselves to a world of serious pain and physical injury - psychosis, muscle spasms, chronic fatigue, postural deformities, all sorts of things. These are caused by the release of years of pent-up tension; all stress of all kinds are stored as musculoskeletal tensions, some are also stored in the nerves and organs and the general rule is that stress is either stored or released.


I don't know why you got downvoted really. I am an avid meditator and I have come to a point where I can see heat flows through the body and heal injuries just by directing the breath to the point of injury. As good as meditation is to heal, it also has the power to destroy. What you can do, aside from the medical treatments, is to go to an energy healer and get them to move heat around the body.

Pathogens cannot harm a person who is truly strong within. They have to 'ask permission' from the body to even do damage, the 'permission' is in the form of some kind of relaxation of the immune system, some kind of weak point in it; and it is always caused by a deficiency of some kind or the exercise of behaviours which are not conducive to health. You would be surprised to find out that that little itch you get somewhere on your temple corresponds to some habit you have, and that same itch is universal in all human beings who have such a habit.

The mind is the body is the mind.

[withdrawn]

An outbreak of herpes is usually linked to a weakened immune system, and/or diet. I notice that when I eat salty foods, or even sprinkle sea salt on my food, I tend to have a slight outbreak after a few days of continuous use. The same would happen if and when I would eat seeds, for example, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds.

I spoke to my Chinese herbal practitioner and again, he stated that foods that cause damp within the body often weaken the bodies defense system, and salt and certain raw foods cause internal dampness.

I have not had a breakout since controlling the triggers in my diet, which, as strange as it may sound, does not include any RAW foods! I was specifically told to completely stay away from anything raw.. be it salads, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Everything had to be in a cooked state and very lightly seasoned.

[MrHappy]

An outbreak of herpes is usually linked to a weakened immune system, and/or diet. I notice that when I eat salty foods, or even sprinkle sea salt on my food, I tend to have a slight outbreak after a few days of continuous use. The same would happen if and when I would eat seeds, for example, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds.

I spoke to my Chinese herbal practitioner and again, he stated that foods that cause damp within the body often weaken the bodies defense system, and salt and certain raw foods cause internal dampness.

I have not had a breakout since controlling the triggers in my diet, which, as strange as it may sound, does not include any RAW foods! I was specifically told to completely stay away from anything raw.. be it salads, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Everything had to be in a cooked state and very lightly seasoned.

I've seen success by going against standard practice and actually encouraging a viral outbreak, albeit first strengthening the immune system.

If the virus remains dormant in your CNS, you're only going to be treating it (playing whack-a-mole) for the rest of your life.. or until one of the more promising research drugs are released to general public.

By intentionally invoking 'active' state viral replication, your T-cells can identify and terminate infected cells.

Isoprinosine / echinacea will help proliferation of T-cells. You should supplement either for 2 weeks before trying this.

I may draw some flack for this, but careful TOPICAL application of normal/undiluted sodium hypochlorite at the site of the lesions, for no more than 3 minutes before washing off, is a quick and powerful way to kill off active/infected epithelial cells.

Ways to induce viral 'replication' state include: l-arginine and sunlight.

Have fun!

[mastercowboy]

An outbreak of herpes is usually linked to a weakened immune system, and/or diet. I notice that when I eat salty foods, or even sprinkle sea salt on my food, I tend to have a slight outbreak after a few days of continuous use. The same would happen if and when I would eat seeds, for example, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds.

I spoke to my Chinese herbal practitioner and again, he stated that foods that cause damp within the body often weaken the bodies defense system, and salt and certain raw foods cause internal dampness.

I have not had a breakout since controlling the triggers in my diet, which, as strange as it may sound, does not include any RAW foods! I was specifically told to completely stay away from anything raw.. be it salads, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Everything had to be in a cooked state and very lightly seasoned.

What do you mean exactly by the term damp?Sorry but i can't find a suitable translation for this word.

[mastercowboy]

BTW already the symptoms started to subside greatly after about 19 days together with skin rash...The only thing i did different all these days was to quit coffee and drink fresh oranges and lemon juices every day to strength immune,because before this happened i was drinking every day coffee,something not so normal for me.Also stopped doing some hard exercises,but i decided to stop forever doing them.It doesn't worth anymore the pain.I took my lesson.

[nowayout]

I spoke to my Chinese herbal practitioner and again, he stated that foods that cause damp within the body often weaken the bodies defense system, and salt and certain raw foods cause internal dampness.

I have not had a breakout since controlling the triggers in my diet, which, as strange as it may sound, does not include any RAW foods! I was specifically told to completely stay away from anything raw.. be it salads, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Everything had to be in a cooked state and very lightly seasoned.

Complete quackery.

[withdrawn]

^ I'm sorry you feel that way. But it worked for me, and has done ever since.

[MrHappy]

^ I'm sorry you feel that way. But it worked for me, and has done ever since.

I'd suggest you may want to read up on lysine/arginine ratios in food and why diet has a major effect on HSV replication.