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[Chmekas]

Hello friends,



this is a live-or-die situation. Been fighting a nastiest form of staph infection for years (uti+prostate) and it is getting worse every week, not so sure how long I will be able to stand.

I think this is my last chance to overcome it or else it will overcome me very soon from now.. Antibiotics not working. No matter what I do/did it is still in my system proliferating.

I need your best of the best advice on mega boosting the immunity / giving the body a nuclear weapons to ignite the defense mechanisms and fight.

Please give me any advice, maybe top 3, either supplement, physiotherapy or any other therapy form which could act quick and mega efficient in my sad illness case.


please.

[Godot]

The best antimocrobials I'm aware of are:
1) Lactoferrin - this works by sequestering iron so pathogens can't get access to it to reproduce
2) Allicin - A key extract of garlic, I'm not sure how this works but it helped my wife clear up an infected spider bite without antibiotics
3) Oregano oil - shown effective against staph http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/20021093/
4) Monolaurin - This dissolves the protective outer coatings of some pathogenic bacteria & virii. See the study above for evidence of in vivo effectiveness against staph

If it were me, I'd take all four. Good luck!

[renfr]

1) High dose fish oil
2) High dose sodium ascorbate (preferably in liposomal form)
3) Liposomal glutathione
You should add this with what Godot has proposed.
Lactoferrin can be combined with Phytic acid I think.

[Godot]

Renfr - Why high dose fish oil? Wouldn't the anti-inflammatory effect interfere with immune response?

[renfr]

Renfr - Why high dose fish oil? Wouldn't the anti-inflammatory effect interfere with immune response?

Recent studies have shown fish oil to be effective in modulating the immune system instead of suppressing it. (http://www.ecu.edu/c...ory.cfm?ID=2718)
Inflammation is what the staph does, anti-inflammatory properties would be effective in repairing the damage.
This is a common misconception that for one to get rid of an infectious agent you must starve and hurt your own body by oxidizing it more, chemotherapy hasn't been proven to be successful on long-term.

[Godot]

Very interesting, thanks for that reference.

[Chmekas]

big thank you for the input.

been considering multiple strategies to proceed with which I want to mention for further discussion:

1) somehow inhibit bacterial biofilms ( alpha-amylase might help? http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22350933 )

bacillus firmus (not so sure how to get it into my system tho..)

2) alkalizing the body. Foamy urine is always a sign of improvement (any extra tip for that?). MMS also helped a lot. But it is an oxidizer as well? To my knowing staph is very very acid forming (it is a lactic acid bacteria). How to get the maximum oxigenation to my system?

3) staph is nasty because it has a lot of anti-weapons like enzyme catalase and others which destroys defense cells natural hydrogen peroxide. How to lower it? maybe with cyanide from bitter apricot kernels would help?

4) how to reach those super hidden spots like prostate in order to penetrate in the medicine?

5) and immunity, it must kick in at some point, when the colonies of staph are weakened.. it must do the job it supposed to do... in theory.

[Chmekas]

what are the high doses in your opinion?

and how phytic acid might add to lactoferrin?

1) High dose fish oil
2) High dose sodium ascorbate (preferably in liposomal form)
3) Liposomal glutathione
You should add this with what Godot has proposed.
Lactoferrin can be combined with Phytic acid I think.

[daouda]

Isn't AHCC supposed to be one of the most potent "immune-booster" ou there? (raising NK cells number)

[Godot]

Lactoferrin increases the susceptibility of staph to antibiotics
http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/11549422/
http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/17517718/

[renfr]

what are the high doses in your opinion?

and how phytic acid might add to lactoferrin?

1) High dose fish oil
2) High dose sodium ascorbate (preferably in liposomal form)
3) Liposomal glutathione
You should add this with what Godot has proposed.
Lactoferrin can be combined with Phytic acid I think.

1) fish oil over 10g, don't exceed 20g for a long period
2) sodium ascorbate over 10g, if you're planning to take over 15g daily watchout for sodium intake (112mg sodium per 1000mg sodium ascorbate), that's why you should prefer the liposomal form, for the liposomal form an attack dose the first day of 20g divided in 2-3 intakes during the day the first dose is needed to elevate rapidly ascorbate levels then you'd take 5g the other days which reduce your sodium intake to about 600mg per day
3) At least 3g, avoid exceeding 5g, do not take liposomal sodium the same day of taking the sodium ascorbate attack dose, both liposomal products contain 1000mg of phosphatidylcholine and intake shouldn't exceed 18000mg per day.

Phosphatidylcholine is safe and nontoxic with no significant
acute or chronic toxicity, mutagenicity or teratogenicity.
It is well-tolerated at daily doses of up to 18 g when taken
orally and symptoms of intolerance are almost exclusively
restricted to gastro-intestinal discomfort (e.g. diarrhoea
and nausea).1
http://medentco.com/... experience.pdf

Phytic acid chelates iron that is why it could be considered with lactoferrin.

[Chmekas]

great, thanks for this specific info.

And what about combination of oxidation and antioxidation of the body. I mean there are effective methods of antioxidation like glutathione AND oxidation like sodium chlorite. Is there any smart way of combining antioxidation with oxidation? week of this and week of that? Does that make sense?

what are the high doses in your opinion?

and how phytic acid might add to lactoferrin?

1) High dose fish oil
2) High dose sodium ascorbate (preferably in liposomal form)
3) Liposomal glutathione
You should add this with what Godot has proposed.
Lactoferrin can be combined with Phytic acid I think.

1) fish oil over 10g, don't exceed 20g for a long period
2) sodium ascorbate over 10g, if you're planning to take over 15g daily watchout for sodium intake (112mg sodium per 1000mg sodium ascorbate), that's why you should prefer the liposomal form, for the liposomal form an attack dose the first day of 20g divided in 2-3 intakes during the day the first dose is needed to elevate rapidly ascorbate levels then you'd take 5g the other days which reduce your sodium intake to about 600mg per day
3) At least 3g, avoid exceeding 5g, do not take liposomal sodium the same day of taking the sodium ascorbate attack dose, both liposomal products contain 1000mg of phosphatidylcholine and intake shouldn't exceed 18000mg per day.

Phosphatidylcholine is safe and nontoxic with no significant
acute or chronic toxicity, mutagenicity or teratogenicity.
It is well-tolerated at daily doses of up to 18 g when taken
orally and symptoms of intolerance are almost exclusively
restricted to gastro-intestinal discomfort (e.g. diarrhoea
and nausea).1
http://medentco.com/... experience.pdf

Phytic acid chelates iron that is why it could be considered with lactoferrin.

[MizTen]

The best antimocrobials I'm aware of are:
1) Lactoferrin - this works by sequestering iron so pathogens can't get access to it to reproduce
2) Allicin - A key extract of garlic, I'm not sure how this works but it helped my wife clear up an infected spider bite without antibiotics
3) Oregano oil - shown effective against staph http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/20021093/
4) Monolaurin - This dissolves the protective outer coatings of some pathogenic bacteria & virii. See the study above for evidence of in vivo effectiveness against staph

If it were me, I'd take all four. Good luck!

These are excellent suggestions. I would add that bovine colostrum (in freeze dried powder form, not fresh) contains lactoferrin and monolaurin, along with other co-factors, so it could be a helpful addition.

big thank you for the input.

been considering multiple strategies to proceed with which I want to mention for further discussion:

1) somehow inhibit bacterial biofilms ( alpha-amylase might help? http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22350933 )

bacillus firmus (not so sure how to get it into my system tho..)

2) alkalizing the body. Foamy urine is always a sign of improvement (any extra tip for that?). MMS also helped a lot. But it is an oxidizer as well? To my knowing staph is very very acid forming (it is a lactic acid bacteria). How to get the maximum oxigenation to my system?

3) staph is nasty because it has a lot of anti-weapons like enzyme catalase and others which destroys defense cells natural hydrogen peroxide. How to lower it? maybe with cyanide from bitter apricot kernels would help?

4) how to reach those super hidden spots like prostate in order to penetrate in the medicine?

5) and immunity, it must kick in at some point, when the colonies of staph are weakened.. it must do the job it supposed to do... in theory.

1) Oil of oregano may be very effective, taken internally, to weaken the biofilm. It should be taken with caution because it is pretty strong on your gastrointestinal system.

2) Raw apple cider vinegar and many vegetables will alkalize the body.

4) Some of the above suggestions may be able to get all the way into your system, lactoferrin, monolaurin, and oil of oregano.

5) Immunity: probiotics, maybe not at the same time as oil of oregano, mushroom extracts, colostrum, AHCC

I hope you get better soon, this sounds very tough. Hopefully you've got a good doctor on your side.

Edited by MizTen, 21 April 2013 - 02:01 AM.

[Chmekas]

I could get fresh colostrum from a dairy farmer, like 2-3 liters. How should I take it for the greatest effect?

The best antimocrobials I'm aware of are:
1) Lactoferrin - this works by sequestering iron so pathogens can't get access to it to reproduce
2) Allicin - A key extract of garlic, I'm not sure how this works but it helped my wife clear up an infected spider bite without antibiotics
3) Oregano oil - shown effective against staph http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/20021093/
4) Monolaurin - This dissolves the protective outer coatings of some pathogenic bacteria & virii. See the study above for evidence of in vivo effectiveness against staph

If it were me, I'd take all four. Good luck!

These are excellent suggestions. I would add that bovine colostrum (in freeze dried powder form, not fresh) contains lactoferrin and monolaurin, along with other co-factors, so it could be a helpful addition.

big thank you for the input.

been considering multiple strategies to proceed with which I want to mention for further discussion:

1) somehow inhibit bacterial biofilms ( alpha-amylase might help? http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22350933 )

bacillus firmus (not so sure how to get it into my system tho..)

2) alkalizing the body. Foamy urine is always a sign of improvement (any extra tip for that?). MMS also helped a lot. But it is an oxidizer as well? To my knowing staph is very very acid forming (it is a lactic acid bacteria). How to get the maximum oxigenation to my system?

3) staph is nasty because it has a lot of anti-weapons like enzyme catalase and others which destroys defense cells natural hydrogen peroxide. How to lower it? maybe with cyanide from bitter apricot kernels would help?

4) how to reach those super hidden spots like prostate in order to penetrate in the medicine?

5) and immunity, it must kick in at some point, when the colonies of staph are weakened.. it must do the job it supposed to do... in theory.

1) Oil of oregano may be very effective, taken internally, to weaken the biofilm. It should be taken with caution because it is pretty strong on your gastrointestinal system.

2) Raw apple cider vinegar and many vegetables will alkalize the body.

4) Some of the above suggestions may be able to get all the way into your system, lactoferrin, monolaurin, and oil of oregano.

5) Immunity: probiotics, maybe not at the same time as oil of oregano, mushroom extracts, colostrum, AHCC

I hope you get better soon, this sounds very tough. Hopefully you've got a good doctor on your side.

[Logic]

Rosemary extract
http://cdn.intechope...th_products.pdf
see Fig 2

Stevia
http://www.academicj... Abu-Salem.pdf

Probably your best bet is Bacteriophage Therapy
http://www.google.co...iw=1093&bih=435

[niner]

Chmekas, what antibiotics have you taken? Have you used intravenous dosing?

[Godot]

Bovine colostrum contains only about 1g/liter of Lactoferrin. Could be hard to sustain high doses if you intend to take it that way, but if you can get 2-3 liters, that gives you a pretty good dose for a few days, along with whatever else is in there.. http://www-fst.ag.oh...ACTOFERRIN.html

Also, I'm fairly certain that Monolaurin is not present in colostrum. It's derived from coconut oil.

Edited by Godot, 21 April 2013 - 01:50 PM.

[MizTen]

Unfortunately I think fresh colostrum would be a bad idea as it can contain pathogens that you should avoid. The freeze drying process eliminates those pathogens.

But maybe if the cows are healthy, are mostly grass-fed and the farmer's milking procedure is hygienic, the fresh colostrum would be safe. The fact that it is readily available is helpful.

Edited by MizTen, 21 April 2013 - 02:15 PM.

[Chmekas]

tried bacteriophage therapy, did not work.. :/

Rosemary extract
http://cdn.intechope...th_products.pdf
see Fig 2

Stevia
http://www.academicj... Abu-Salem.pdf

Probably your best bet is Bacteriophage Therapy
http://www.google.co...iw=1093&bih=435

tried all of it, can not remember all names. the thing is my staph is sensitive to antibiotics but they don't eliminate it. tried IV while having strong system poisoning by bacteria.

I am considering to add antibiotics to the regimen. I need to find a way to increase antibiotic efficiency. again, they need to pass the biofilm. and then the bacteria hides in deep pockets of prostate and UTi, it is very hard to reach because of little blood supply to the area :/ ideas?

Chmekas, what antibiotics have you taken? Have you used intravenous dosing?

[Chmekas]

so here is my initial regimen to consider:


IRON BINDING: colostrum (maybe I should switch to proper lactoferrin supp.)
green tea EGCG
any additions?

BIOFILM REMOVAL: alpha-amylase
berberine
garlic
cis-2-Decenoic Acid
any additions?

IMMUNE BOOSTING: liposomal vitamin C
liposomal gluthatione
niacin (boosts antibiotic efficiency)
chaga (it's pollisacharide, ok or not?)
multivitamin
maybe transfer factors by 4life
effective microorganisms
additions?

ANTIBIOTICS: manuka honey (http://www.myhealthn...infections.html)
course of antibiotics prescribed. should I take them at attack dose or gradually?
coconut oil
bitter apricot kernels (cyanide in apricot kernels might inhibit the natural protective enzyme catalase of staph. in my theory of course..) any other ideas on staph catalase inhibition are welcome.

HERBS: st.johns wort
ginko biloba (for blood circulation. maybe there are better herbs for it?)

ANTI INFLAMMATORY: fish oil
vitamin D high dose
strong magnet on the infected area

OTHER: phenomenal water (http://mrsa30day.com...-is-phenomenal/)
MMS drops
DMSO


PHYSIOTHERAPY: irrigation with medicine (silver ect.) via urethra
ozone therapy. will try to find a way to get ozone irrigation via urethra


DIET: 100% ketogenic


comments, ideas, suggestions? uff..

Unfortunately I think fresh colostrum would be a bad idea as it can contain pathogens that you should avoid. The freeze drying process eliminates those pathogens.

But maybe if the cows are healthy, are mostly grass-fed and the farmer's milking procedure is hygienic, the fresh colostrum would be safe. The fact that it is readily available is helpful.

Edited by Chmekas, 21 April 2013 - 06:05 PM.

[daouda]

I tryed ozone via urethra because of chronic prostatitis, was horribly painful (couldnt pee without horrible pain for days)

[Chmekas]

pain is ok with me in this case. did it help?

I tryed ozone via urethra because of chronic prostatitis, was horribly painful (couldnt pee without horrible pain for days)

[Godot]

If it were me, I'd use Lauricidin Monolaurin rather than relying on coconut oil. I imagine you'd have to eat an awful lot of oil to get the same quantity of lauric acid as you can get in a scoop of Monolaurin pellets.

[Logic]

tried bacteriophage therapy, did not work.. :/

Please elaborate on this Chmekas.
Where did you get the treatment?
Did they look for a phage specific to the bacteria infecting you, or did they just give you a standard anti staph phage?

This looks interesting, but do check the references:
http://www.westonapr...-on-coconut-oil
"...Part of the research focused on Staphylococcus aureus. In vitro studies were performed on two strains of Staphylococcus aureus and this was followed by in vivo studies in mice. The effects of monolaurin and originum when used in combination were better than the most potent antibiotic..."

NB!: Some chelators seem to help rather than hinder the formation of staph biofilms!
It all seems to depend on the strain of staph. Clumping factor B is important:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22516131
http://www.plosone.o...al.pone.0034388

Perhaps consider IV chelation therapy with EDTA while on a high dose of Coconut Oil and Monolaurin, originum, antibiotics etc.
NB that the chelation procedure should take 3 hours and the doc should be monitoring levels of calcium, creatinine etc.
It seems that there are some quacks that will happily take your money in exchange for a 1 hour session with some or other calcified EDTA that is ineffective but does not require the monitoring of calcium levels.
http://drcranton.com...neyfunction.htm
http://www.umm.edu/a...acid-000302.htm

It seems that the chelation of Zinc works for all strains:
http://www.pnas.org/...717105.full.pdf

[niner]

course of antibiotics prescribed. should I take them at attack dose or gradually?

Prescribed by a doctor? What antibiotic is it, and which antibiotics have you tried? When you had the IV antibiotics, was that for this particular infection? Which antibiotic was it? Were you hospitalized?

Most antibiotics don't use an attack dose, although a few, like azithromycin, do.

[1kgcoffee]

Are you sure it's a staph infection and not something else? Is this a MRSA type staph infection?
http://en.wikipedia....lococcus_aureus

The psychedelic mushroom Psilocybe semilanceata has been shown to strongly inhibit the growth of Staphylococcus aureus.

pretty...interesting....treatment.


Anyhow, I'm sure a herbal approach is best. Doctors should be giving you strong antibiotics. So first a disclaimer- this is not medical advice. Second best, and relatively cheap, I might recommend fresh garlic juice, as much as you can keep down, and/or very strong hot water extracts of wormwood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/20210515
#3 I would recommend is high dose vitamin D, aka stoss therapy. You can take 50,000 IU vitamin D3 for no more than a couple days. Try to get your hands on the softgels if possible. After that you can continue to take between 2-5k IU indefinitely. That will probably help.

Edited by 1kgcoffee, 22 April 2013 - 04:31 AM.

[Chmekas]

so I started buying the stuff.

Just bought monolaurin ( http://lauricidin.com/ ).

dosage suggestion?

If it were me, I'd use Lauricidin Monolaurin rather than relying on coconut oil. I imagine you'd have to eat an awful lot of oil to get the same quantity of lauric acid as you can get in a scoop of Monolaurin pellets.

I did bacteriophage therapy with standard staph phage. can it be targeted more specifically than that?

Zinc chelation looks very targeted but I am afraid to loose all that zinc. Maybe EDTA would fit as well? How often should I chelate?

tried bacteriophage therapy, did not work.. :/

Please elaborate on this Chmekas.
Where did you get the treatment?
Did they look for a phage specific to the bacteria infecting you, or did they just give you a standard anti staph phage?

This looks interesting, but do check the references:
http://www.westonapr...-on-coconut-oil
"...Part of the research focused on Staphylococcus aureus. In vitro studies were performed on two strains of Staphylococcus aureus and this was followed by in vivo studies in mice. The effects of monolaurin and originum when used in combination were better than the most potent antibiotic..."

NB!: Some chelators seem to help rather than hinder the formation of staph biofilms!
It all seems to depend on the strain of staph. Clumping factor B is important:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22516131
http://www.plosone.o...al.pone.0034388

Perhaps consider IV chelation therapy with EDTA while on a high dose of Coconut Oil and Monolaurin, originum, antibiotics etc.
NB that the chelation procedure should take 3 hours and the doc should be monitoring levels of calcium, creatinine etc.
It seems that there are some quacks that will happily take your money in exchange for a 1 hour session with some or other calcified EDTA that is ineffective but does not require the monitoring of calcium levels.
http://drcranton.com...neyfunction.htm
http://www.umm.edu/a...acid-000302.htm

It seems that the chelation of Zinc works for all strains:
http://www.pnas.org/...717105.full.pdf

I did like 15 rounds of different antibiotics, IV and oral during the staph treatment history. Can not remember all names of antibiotics, very sorry. Cipro and others.

course of antibiotics prescribed. should I take them at attack dose or gradually?

Prescribed by a doctor? What antibiotic is it, and which antibiotics have you tried? When you had the IV antibiotics, was that for this particular infection? Which antibiotic was it? Were you hospitalized?

Most antibiotics don't use an attack dose, although a few, like azithromycin, do.

it is staph, not mrsa, meaning it is sensitive to antibiotics. But still they don't beat it.

Vitamin D - good link, thank you.
the mushroom - good link. why not combine pleasure with treatment.

Are you sure it's a staph infection and not something else? Is this a MRSA type staph infection?
http://en.wikipedia....lococcus_aureus

The psychedelic mushroom Psilocybe semilanceata has been shown to strongly inhibit the growth of Staphylococcus aureus.

pretty...interesting....treatment.


Anyhow, I'm sure a herbal approach is best. Doctors should be giving you strong antibiotics. So first a disclaimer- this is not medical advice. Second best, and relatively cheap, I might recommend fresh garlic juice, as much as you can keep down, and/or very strong hot water extracts of wormwood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/20210515
#3 I would recommend is high dose vitamin D, aka stoss therapy. You can take 50,000 IU vitamin D3 for no more than a couple days. Try to get your hands on the softgels if possible. After that you can continue to take between 2-5k IU indefinitely. That will probably help.

[Chmekas]

one question regarding cis-2-Decenoic Acid that is show to inhibit staph as well as staph biofilm.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22585351

"...C2DA at concentrations of 500 μg/mL and above inhibited growth, while 125 μg/mL C2DA inhibited biofilm. Combination with antibiotics increased these effects. At concentrations up to 500 μg/mL, there were no cytotoxic effects on fibroblasts. Chitosan sponges loaded with 100 mg of C2DA eluted concentrations at or above biofilm-inhibitory concentrations for 5 days..."

I am able to acquire 50mg of cis-2-Decenoic Acid. Would this be enough? What would be sufficient dose for taking?

Edited by Chmekas, 22 April 2013 - 10:20 AM.

[Logic]

so I started buying the stuff.

Just bought monolaurin ( http://lauricidin.com/ ).

dosage suggestion?

Is Monolaurin/Lauric Acid the only MCT effective against Staph?
I seem to recall that other MCTs are too, so would combine Monolaurin with Coconut Oil and/or originum and other oils after further research.

I did bacteriophage therapy with standard staph phage. can it be targeted more specifically than that?

Yes:
The correct method it to take a sample from your body and then isolate/purify it to end up with only the bacteria/bacterial strain specific to you.
This specific bacteria is then exposed to a many, many different phages until one is found that lives on/likes the specific bacteria you are infected with.
It is then isolated/purified and applied.

Also; how was the phage dosed? If you just drank it, it probably didn't make it to your prostate and bladder as your immune system would have taken it out.
A more targeted method of application would have to be used.

Zinc chelation looks very targeted but I am afraid to loose all that zinc. Maybe EDTA would fit as well? How often should I chelate?

The info that iron chelation only works for certain strains and has the opposite effect on others and that Zinc chelation seems to work on all strains needs further research Chmekas. My post was supposed to point you in the right direction to do your own research, armed with the knowledge of which specific strain you have.

EDTA chelates many metals, including Zinc and is known to dissolve the biofilms of many different bacteria.
While EDTA does kill some bacteria by itself, its generally used with an antibiotic specific to the bacteria causing the problem.
As the bacteria is not hiding behind a biofilm anymore; the antibiotic can get to it easily and eradicate it.

I would talk to a doctor who does chelation therapy, explaining your whole problem.
He/she will then be able to recommend the mixture of chelation therapy, antibiotic and Monolaurin etc to be used.
At a guess I think they may recommend IV chelation with EDTA and IV antibiotic simultaneously. Perhaps even a more targeted application of antibiotics.
This could all be backed up with oral Monolaurin and/or Coconut oil, Originum, etc.

Don't worry about depleting essential minerals during chelation as a good practitioner will re-introduce these to your system at the correct time, specific to your condition.

Edited by Logic, 22 April 2013 - 10:54 AM.

[Chmekas]

the terrible thing is there are no practitioners locally that could understand the full picture. most of them never HEARD about biofilms and their role ect. how cool is that?

so now I am kind of on my own with some additional services bought from practitioners, like prescriptions to antibiotics or irrigations..

need to find a chelation expert locally.

so I started buying the stuff.

Just bought monolaurin ( http://lauricidin.com/ ).

dosage suggestion?

Is Monolaurin/Lauric Acid the only MCT effective against Staph?
I seem to recall that other MCTs are too, so would combine Monolaurin with Coconut Oil and/or originum and other oils after further research.

I did bacteriophage therapy with standard staph phage. can it be targeted more specifically than that?

Yes:
The correct method it to take a sample from your body and then isolate/purify it to end up with only the bacteria/bacterial strain specific to you.
This specific bacteria is then exposed to a many, many different phages until one is found that lives on/likes the specific bacteria you are infected with.
It is then isolated/purified and applied.

Also; how was the phage dosed? If you just drank it, it probably didn't make it to your prostate and bladder as your immune system would have taken it out.
A more targeted method of application would have to be used.

Zinc chelation looks very targeted but I am afraid to loose all that zinc. Maybe EDTA would fit as well? How often should I chelate?

The info that iron chelation only works for certain strains and has the opposite effect on others and that Zinc chelation seems to work on all strains needs further research Chmekas. My post was supposed to point you in the right direction to do your own research, armed with the knowledge of which specific strain you have.

EDTA chelates many metals, including Zinc and is known to dissolve the biofilms of many different bacteria.
While EDTA does kill some bacteria by itself, its generally used with an antibiotic specific to the bacteria causing the problem.
As the bacteria is not hiding behind a biofilm anymore; the antibiotic can get to it easily and eradicate it.

I would talk to a doctor who does chelation therapy, explaining your whole problem.
He/she will then be able to recommend the mixture of chelation therapy, antibiotic and Monolaurin etc to be used.
At a guess I think they may recommend IV chelation with EDTA and IV antibiotic simultaneously. Perhaps even a more targeted application of antibiotics.
This could all be backed up with oral Monolaurin and/or Coconut oil, Originum, etc.

Don't worry about depleting essential minerals during chelation as a good practitioner will re-introduce these to your system at the correct time, specific to your condition.