LONGECITY

Checked this afternoon but haven't received it yet. Anyone in the western hemisphere have it yet?

Q did it has not gotten the BPAP yet. I have to check if everything from the suppliers end. Update shortly.

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

Thanks for the update

Received the package today (Sunday). Here are some pics. The contents arrived a bit frozen, seriously FedEX? Will be mailing them off the middle of this week. Will be putting off trying this till all packages are mailed if any of you are wondering .

Great!

By the look of the labels, it appears freezing broke the seal and caused leakage? Tighten the caps before reshipping?

By the look of the labels, it appears freezing broke the seal and caused leakage? Tighten the caps before reshipping?

Only a few had minor leakage as the image above shows. The leakage came from around where rubber stopper emerges from the plastic cap. The cap does have a seal so there is nothing to tight

They have thawed!

How do we store them, In a refrigerator or a freezer?

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Sent a message. Will update shortly.

By the looks of it FedEx sucks. Won't be using them anymore.

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Sent a message. Will update shortly.

Ok, please do!

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Sent a message. Will update shortly.

Ok, please do!

Hmm, on second note I've had nothing but problems with you. You're off my future group buy list forever... not

lol, still waiting for a reply.

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Sent a message. Will update shortly.

Ok, please do!

Hmm, on second note I've had nothing but problems with you. You're off my future group buy list forever... not

lol, still waiting for a reply.

? I haven't received any message yet.

Q did it! will be getting the BPAP today to mail out to participants in the US and CA. It takes Fedex a while for things to arrive. Gonna rest now, ehh.

And to us living in Europe?

Sent a message. Will update shortly.

Ok, please do!

Hmm, on second note I've had nothing but problems with you. You're off my future group buy list forever... not

lol, still waiting for a reply.

? I haven't received any message yet.

I never sent you a message was to my supplier.

Anyone else try this yet?

Any links to some good reports from those who have used BPAP?

The BPAP will be in the mail tomorrow. Ran short time on time Thursday. Did not even get a chance to pull them out of storage. But when I did...

The bottles that were frozen appear to have received damage to the rubber tops and are presperating (see photos) and the levels are lower (see green arrows). Only two are completely unscathed. Most have a bit or a little of damage where about thee are fairly bad.

So what actions would I take to stop this prior to shipping? New bottles or tops? I can use my bottle to top off what has been lost to the few that are noticeably so if you guys wish.

Why would freezing cause the rubber bulbs to deteriorate? I would more suspect the rubber bulbs are not resistant to the solvent and it's chemical degradation.....is this why the first vial sent to SG for analysis came up empty?
Edited by Hebbeh, 23 December 2013 - 03:28 AM.

Why does this BPAP gunk come in a solution form again? What's so bad about good old fashioned powder? Now you got a sticky mess. lol
Edited by Pitolisant, 23 December 2013 - 03:32 AM.

I'm guessing it would be a pain to try and get either new caps or bottles. What about pinching off the bulb for shipment with either a binder clip (those fancy black paper clips) or a clothes pin. Keeping the BPAP out of the bulb during shipping should prevent anymore leakage. Or would that damage the bulb further?

Here is what I am wanting to do if you guys are cool with/think it will work. Its a little silly but... Simply use those little water balloons one gets at the droller store and stretch it over to rubber down over onto the plastic cap. Could work and it should keep in the contents and if they froze again the balloon would/should hold that in as well...

Tell me what you think

Here is what I am wanting to do if you guys are cool with/think it will work. Its a little silly but... Simply use those little water balloons one gets at the droller store and stretch it over to rubber down over onto the plastic cap. Could work and it should keep in the contents and if they froze again the balloon would/should hold that in as well...

Tell me what you think

If it works I have no problem with that.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

It's probably the best solution in order to get them out quickly. Though correct size caps would be optimal, how to find those is another matter. That type of top (dropper & bulb) has never been very good, even with something as simple as Vit D drops, there are issues. The rubber deteriorates quickly even under optimal circumstances.

It's probably the best solution in order to get them out quickly. Though correct size caps would be optimal, how to find those is another matter. That type of top (dropper & bulb) has never been very good, even with something as simple as Vit D drops, there are issues. The rubber deteriorates quickly even under optimal circumstances.

+1

was it dissolved in DMSO? That would explain why it was frozen and why it leaks through the rubber bulbs. DMSO freezes at 19 C, and it is known to penetrate many materials. Best way is to replace the rubber with any solid caps.
Shipping it frozen all the way would work too

Why is BPAP in a messy dropper solution anyway? Excuse my ignorance, but I wasn't aware of BPAP until longecity.

Why is BPAP in a messy dropper solution anyway? Excuse my ignorance, but I wasn't aware of BPAP until longecity.

It needs to be mixed into a solution so that measuring it is more accurate. It's taken in micro grams.