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#1 Tom_

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:12 PM


Arguably not strictly related to brain health.

I'm looking to try a psychedelic (combo producing that effect) that is legal within the UK that is easy to come across and preferably cheap. I would obviously only be interested if I could buy over the net.

I am more interested in the 'tradional' experience of serotnergic Psychedelic but am open to achiving this with any method of action.

The drug/drug combo suggested must be reasonably safe.

The more novel the suggestion the better, something about those websites selling legal analogs of drugs just turn me off - don't let this be an inhibit suggestions, I am open to all LEGAL options.

As always I really appreshiate the help.
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#2 Redux

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:27 PM

This is not the place for this request, here we only want to improve brain / body function via normal states of consciousness. If you want to talk about drugs - Bluelight.ru - is the place.
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#3 Tom_

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

While I haven't read T&C I'm pretty sure in no where the forum specifies how one should go about improving neurological function, or changing it for any reason the individual deems worthy.

There is also some evidence for the use of Psychedelics in affective regulation and mood disorders.

I think I'm perfectly with in my rights to ask you to only comment with useful information. Although I (no sarcasm is intended) apprechiate you pointing me somewhere else in a candid and polite manner.

Edited by Tom_, 29 May 2013 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

While I haven't read T&C I'm pretty sure in no where the forum specifies how one should go about improving neurological function, or changing it for any reason the individual deems worthy.

There is also some evidence for the use of Psychedelics in affective regulation and mood disorders.

I think I'm perfectly with in my rights to ask you to only comment with useful information. Although I (no sarcasm is intended) apprechiate you pointing me somewhere else in a candid and polite manner.


Their regulation of mood disorders involves giving up and drugging them into wonderland... I hardly feel this "regulation" is worth anything as these people wind up with brains made of mush. Keep you're head on straight kid.
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#5 kevinseven11

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

Nutmeg- benzyl type chemcicals
Morning glory- lsa
Amanita muscaria- muscarine
There are others but those i wouldn't consider safe under normal circumstances.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:47 PM

Thank you Kevinseven11. I'll look into them,

Threshold and below threshold doses do not cause 'drugging to wonderland'.

Helath consious use of Psychedelics for any reason doesn't seem to cause any long term chronic problems.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:49 PM

High dose Bacopa especially in combination with other serotonergics (5-HTP, St. John's wort) produces a psychedelic-like altered state for me and I've read others have similar experience. It may be due to 5-HT2A agonism altough I'm not sure. Bacopa is used to deepen meditative practice and the state it gives one is very therapeutic. Deep empathy towards people, letting go of harmful thinking patterns, getting in sense of your personality and character, inner peace and confidence.. these type of things occur to me when consuming it. especially in combo with St. John's. I wonder if Cat's Claw, another 5-HT2A agonist that contains Rhoncophylline which is also NMDA-antagonist and has DMT-structure it, would synergize there. Alone it has given me bit of a dissociative effect and gets me thinking about life and universe. So there are these legal and generally safe herbs that can have therapeutic value...

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:50 PM

Thanks, something I'll take under serious consideration

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:17 PM

As long as the purpose is the expansion of consciousness, via conceptuality or self-understanding, which most psychedelics allow, I think this discussion is valid.

Watch out for what Kevinseven11 recommended, those all have reports of very uncomfortable highs and unusual MoAs. Amanita isn't even a psychedelic its a deleriant.

What I can recommend is 25c-nbome. It is a very clean and physically benign psychedelic, being only a 5ht2a agonist, an MoA shared by all psychedelics. The headspace is highly lucid... unless you take an insane dose or are highly sensitive you will be in control at all times, yet altered perceptions still allow for the triangulation of new understandings. The visuals are absolutely awesome too.

If you are looking for something more volatile but also potentially more therapeutic (ie confrontations with repressed aspects of the psyche) then psilocybe mushrooms are great and available in truffle form from Netherlands websites. LSD is also excellent for this.

Finally ketamine, preferably I.M, is guaranteed to blow your mind, invert your being about the galactic axis and unite with your cosmic self.

I know you said legal but in all honesty this path isn't even worth treading if you're not willing to go the whole way. It's incredibly easy to find these things and import them to the UK without any trouble whatsoever.
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#10 BLimitless

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

If you are looking for a less-than-fully-hallucinogenic experience, like a nootropic psychedelic as it were, then look into Ayahuasca (B. Caapi) or Syrian Rue (Peganum Harmala). Another one is Passionflower.

The harmala alkaloids in these are monoamine-A enzyme inhibitors preventing the breakdown of serotonin-like substances and at higher doses they express MAO-B inhibition too. They act on the NMDA as an antagonist, and they also inhibit acetylcholinesterase, pretty strongly I may add at higher doses. They also directly cause dopamine to be released of their own accord.


In fact harmala alkaloids are my go-to nootropic for "right-brained" activities. Typically on here most ask the question of what nootropics might help with the classical "left-brained" modes of operation. Number crunching, remembering bits of information, attention span, concentration, etc. All left-brained and racetams are great. But what about when you need to be creative, fluid, liquid, able to see many loose associations between objects, to expand your field of vision and your field of perception, to shut off the brain's input filters so you can see more of reality at a time? In that case you must turn to these things.

If you're doing mathematics then hallucinogens are only useful nootropics in very low doses, or they are good for math as long as you don't actually try doing it while on the actual substance but in the afterglow when your left-brained operation mechanisms start beign able to work again. Psychedelics have a very interesting knack for switching off one's ability to do mathematical things or work with specifics. Being on a psychedelic, is less like having a bunch of orderly workers laying bricks bit by bit in your brain and so much more like "smash face on keyboard, post results" which somehow ends up belting out Maxwell's treatise on electromagnetism due to the way the right brained mode of operation can process information in massively parallel ways, thus not being held limited by linear operation.


Linear operation, which would not be very useful to a musician. Imagine having to sit there and decide which note to play next on your instrument by careful analysis, you would never produce any actual music. So in this sense, classical lefty noots are great for dissecting and decomposing things and analysing their specifics. On the other hand, psychedelics will inhibit that very thing but on the flipside you will be better at music, artistry, creativity, humour, emotionality all round. So it is prudent to remember that intelligence is far from merely how good a person is at crunching or analysing numbers; take for example the classical archetypal nerd who is amazing at mathematics but very socially inept. Intelligent one way but socially, their intelligence is below average!


Anyway, a nice dose of Syrian Rue is an amazing nootropic. More right-brained than left-brained. If you want to move around, breathe deep, dance, play/hear music, socialise and sensually interact, then psychedelics are the way forward. A good dose of Rue will release an inner beast, the beast you already see in yourself who is capable and always knows the right thing to say, who is at ease. Yes, that very beast which is your Self displayed truly and radiantly, which normally you would be afraid to show for fear of judgement.

Syrian Rue and B. Caapi are totally legal in the UK. They are more of a medicinal/visionary plant than a way to "get high", so keep that in mind. They are incredibly healing. Syrian Rue has quinazoline alkaloids with a huge number of healing properties - DNA protective, radiation protective, anti-tussive, bronchodilating, anti-parasitic, anti-viral, all sorts of things - the list is very long! I feel AMAZING on syrian rue. It turns an average "meh" ratrace day into a magical wondrous journey. It is psychedelic yet it does not distort your thought process the way serotonin agonising psychedelics do. So you are sober, but tripping. But sober! Amazing!
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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:07 PM

This is not the place for this request, here we only want to improve brain / body function via normal states of consciousness. If you want to talk about drugs - Bluelight.ru - is the place.

Yes. I'm closing this.
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