A very basic question - to those that have several bottles or more of this stuff - do you refrigirate it or simply keep it at room temperature in a dark/cool place somewhere?
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:48 PM
Didn't we see something a few months back that said freeze-thaw cycles were bad for olive oil? As I recall, they actually induced some form of degradation.
Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:26 PM
I think it is better to keep it frozen in a number of small bottles to avoid freeze-thaw cycles. I found these http://www.amazon.co...d_sim_sbs_hpc_1 to be the right size for my needs.Didn't we see something a few months back that said freeze-thaw cycles were bad for olive oil? As I recall, they actually induced some form of degradation. It wasn't so bad that you shouldn't freeze for long term storage, but frequent freeze thaws might not be so good. I do various things depending on when I'm going to use oil and how much space I have in the freezer, both for c60-oo and plain evoo. I like the idea of freezing for long term storage, but I also use cool dark non-frozen storage. I always keep the bottle that I'm currently using unfrozen, but I try to have that not be a real large bottle.
Posted 01 June 2013 - 04:29 PM
Didn't we see something a few months back that said freeze-thaw cycles were bad for olive oil? As I recall, they actually induced some form of degradation.
I didn't see that, but there is no visible degradation that I have seen. On the other hand, refrigeration at a temperature above freezing does produce some irreversible changes. The tendency is for the oil to separate faster next time around. So if you allowed frozen oil to thaw slowly in the refrigerator, that would have the same problem.
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But what is the best to do?
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:22 AM
is the pure c60 better of frozen , cool or just room temperature, or is it better to preserve in the oil?
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:39 AM
I've gone 6 months without refrigeration. Sarah Vaughter seems to think the C60 will extend the life of the OO out a year beyond normal expiration date due to the Anti-Oxidant effects. I’m not so sure about that claim but I didn’t notice any changes in the OO after the 6th month had past. Perhaps that's a good sign towards it's longevity effects?
Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:28 PM
I've gone 6 months without refrigeration. Sarah Vaughter seems to think the C60 will extend the life of the OO out a year beyond normal expiration date due to the Anti-Oxidant effects. I’m not so sure about that claim but I didn’t notice any changes in the OO after the 6th month had past. Perhaps that's a good sign towards it's longevity effects?
6+ months without refrigeration here too (stored in coldish dark cupboard), no perceptible change in strong clear OO odour whereas the non-C60'ed OO oil smelt rancid/old - there's no doubt that the C60 stabilizes the oil in my experience.
Unsaturated lipids when exposed to air at room temperature undergo a slow autoxidation. When fullerene C60 was dissolved in selected lipids (ethyl oleate, ethyl linoleate, linseed oil and castor oil) the spectrophotometric analysis shows that the oxidation is concentrated to C60 which is converted to an epoxide C60O. Thus, fullerene C60 displays antioxidant activity not only when dissolved in unsaturated lipids but also, more generally, when dissolved in unsaturated solvents subjected to autoxidation like, for example, in cyclohexene.
http://www.sciencedi...009308410000496
Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:34 AM
I've gone 6 months without refrigeration. Sarah Vaughter seems to think the C60 will extend the life of the OO out a year beyond normal expiration date due to the Anti-Oxidant effects. I’m not so sure about that claim but I didn’t notice any changes in the OO after the 6th month had past. Perhaps that's a good sign towards it's longevity effects?
6+ months without refrigeration here too (stored in coldish dark cupboard), no perceptible change in strong clear OO odour whereas the non-C60'ed OO oil smelt rancid/old - there's no doubt that the C60 stabilizes the oil in my experience.
While a fullerene antioxidant may increase the lifetime of the oil, what is happening to the antioxidant in the meantime? Certainly it is oxidizing and is thus morphing into something different than it was at first. But is that good, bad, or indifferent?Unsaturated lipids when exposed to air at room temperature undergo a slow autoxidation. When fullerene C60 was dissolved in selected lipids (ethyl oleate, ethyl linoleate, linseed oil and castor oil) the spectrophotometric analysis shows that the oxidation is concentrated to C60 which is converted to an epoxide C60O. Thus, fullerene C60 displays antioxidant activity not only when dissolved in unsaturated lipids but also, more generally, when dissolved in unsaturated solvents subjected to autoxidation like, for example, in cyclohexene.
http://www.sciencedi...009308410000496
So I would expect that its value as an antioxidant in the body would be reduced the longer it is stored, and that this reduction would occur much faster at room temperature, even if you can't see or smell any difference.
Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:42 AM
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Posted 08 September 2013 - 11:38 AM
My email to Sarah:
Hi Sarah -
I have been tracking my c60 purchase as it is the height of summer in the US. My order, already sitting at ISC over the long hot holiday weekend with no climate controls, arrived today at my local post office prior to it being given to my carrier and dropped at my house. For some reason, they sent it back to the sorting hub, so now it will be sitting in the heat again for another 48 - 50 hours. As olive oil has extremely high levels of PUFA's, it is therefore particularly sensitive to lipid peroxidation which is exacerbated under conditions of prolonged heat.
I now do not feel comfortable using this c60oo solution as its activity has been compromised due to poor materials handling protocols and shipping procedures (unless it is shipped cooled), as I do not wish to carry lipid peroxides across the BBB or into the mitochondria of the test subject. I request a refund and I am willing to not be in receipt of the package, and have it returned to you for your own consumption. I have already spent too much time and money trying to get a hold of c60oo from Europe as a US citizen.
Edited by Turnbuckle, 08 September 2013 - 11:47 AM.
Posted 08 September 2013 - 03:34 PM
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