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[eon]

I read the book "Smart Drugs and Nutrients" about using an "attack dose" of Piracetam for the first 2 days of about 4000 to 8000 mg daily, then down to the usual dose of 2400 to 4800 mg daily after the "attack dose" is done. Any comments regarding this? I thought I read a different dosage online but I could be wrong. This book I read is over 20 years old so maybe new dosages for it to be effective has been figured out.

[thomasthomas]

I would just stick with 4g to 8g daily. Lots of people complain about Piracetam being 'too weak', but then they usually indicate
that they take 2.4G or less per day.

ScienceGuy wrote about this a while back, and showed a few papers which showed that the most effective dose was within
that range.

I can back this up with my personal experience, since low doses did nothing for me, but regularly 4g+ doses work well.

[eon]

Thanks. The 4000 to 8000 mg I mentioned is pretty much the same as 4g to 8g daily then. What is written in the book is on point then. This is only regarding Piracetam though. Other types of racetams are supposed to be stronger, Pramiracetam is supposed to be the strongest. Would the dosage for the other racetams be good at half the standard dose of Piracetam?

I would just stick with 4g to 8g daily. Lots of people complain about Piracetam being 'too weak', but then they usually indicate
that they take 2.4G or less per day.

ScienceGuy wrote about this a while back, and showed a few papers which showed that the most effective dose was within
that range.

I can back this up with my personal experience, since low doses did nothing for me, but regularly 4g+ doses work well.

Edited by eon, 31 August 2013 - 07:12 AM.

[eon]

I'm still hesitant to trying out piracetam. Should I stick with the "attack dose" for the first 2 days and drop it to 4800mg daily? I read an e-book from amazon (anyone could have written this), that the dosages the author has tried is 800mg in the morning and 800mg at night, then drop it to 1 gram a day, only for about a week as piracetam reaches its peak about a week. So cycle on, cycle off is what the author of the book is saying to avoid a tolerance. I also use inositol and alpha gpc and I hope this will not have any weird side effects when stacking all 3 compounds. I use picamilon and L-theanine when needed. The author also mentioned that choline (alpha gpc) is helpful when used with the racetams. I've seen a much complex stack like this:

http://smart-drugs.net/Get-Smart.htm

Aniracetam 800 mg
Centrophenoxine 300 mg
Pyritinol 250 mg
Picamilon 100 mg
CDP Choline 150 mg
Oxiracetam 50 mg
Idebenone 30 mg
Vinpocetine 10 mg
Galantamine 400 mcg
Huperzine A 50 mcg

Edited by eon, 17 September 2013 - 07:23 AM.

[eon]

I just hope a higher dosage does not cause adrenal fatigue.

[eon]

I've just started my cycle of Piracetam. I like it. I think I can feel it working. I was productive during the day. I didn't have time to do the "loading" of Piracetam, so I'm sticking to two 800mg pills for a.m. and two 800mg pills for p.m. (3200mg daily). That's 4 pills a day. I split each one 3-4 hours apart. I will step it up to 4000mg daily as suggested by people here. I was just trying to get the feel of Piracetam. Did any of you ever do the "loading" of Piracetam? Not sure if that will make a difference. The loading dosage is just a bit high. Maybe next cycle of Piracetam I will load on it for 2 days, but since I am new to using this I was cautious.

is 1600mg a bit high to take all at once? This would be two 800mg pills. I'd like to split all my dosages to a.m. and p.m. so it's easy to remember.

Edited by eon, 24 September 2013 - 07:55 AM.

[YOLF]

so 8000mg is 8 grams... how much do you guys pay to take this stuff?

[eon]

price vary from different sources. bulk powders would be cheaper. mine is capsulize and ready to use. Mine is 90 capsules, 800mg each capsule for under $20. That would be about 72 grams I think. The bulk powders would have been 50% cheaper.

so 8000mg is 8 grams... how much do you guys pay to take this stuff?

Edited by eon, 25 September 2013 - 07:29 AM.

[Babychris]

you can pay 1kg for 50 dollars. it's 125 days of 8 grams dose to keep the harmony we'll say it's 12.5 dollars a month that's pretty cheap TBH

[Synaesthesiac]

Attack doses I have seen consistently among many sources to be the stated 4-8g daily for the first 72 hours. After this point, begin to drop it down. Everyone here will tell you that there is a specific dose that you should take from that point on and point to their one study they found to back it up, but the truth is you need to find what works for you. I backed it down slowly until I found the best effects for me setting in at 800mg 2x a day. From that point I did the same with 4 other -racetams added to my stack over many months, backing down ALL doses with each new addition to account for synergy. There is no "right dose for everybody" and you will find yours the way the rest of us who have experimented for a long time have: through careful, prolonged, subjective analysis of results. As much as they insist, keep in mind everybody here that states the perfect dose is just passing on what works for them. Just as I am doing. I find that less is more. I conserve my supply, don't overtax my neurochemistry, and have been able to experiment and add to my stack over time without burning out my brain. This is my experience.

[eon]

The piracetam I have is capsuled already so I paid more money for it. My bulk powder supplier does not sell Piracetam in powder form, but other stronger racetams instead (oxi, prami, ani). I read somewhere to cycle off the racetams as they do "peak" (its effects) after a week? I could "feel" it working the first week I used it but I think I got used to it on my second week (tolerance). True or not I am cycling off piracetam once my bottle is done (it's only good for 3 weeks at the dose I had been taking). I guess time to check out the stronger racetams after a week off the piracetam.

you can pay 1kg for 50 dollars. it's 125 days of 8 grams dose to keep the harmony we'll say it's 12.5 dollars a month that's pretty cheap TBH