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Hey guys. I'm on Adderall and it's doing great for me, I'm getting a shitton of homework done and I'm doing more in regards to organization and motivation. It's even helped me focus better when I'm driving, something I used to completely hate doing which is now something enjoyable.

The issue now is finding a way to perhaps punch it up a bit. I take 10mg XR Adderall and I'm wondering if the CILTEP could be just the thing.

Is there a "best" brand of forskolin/artichoke extract to take? Will taking it with Adderall do more harm than good?

Thanks a million, guys.

[abelard lindsay]

I've never taken Adderall, However, there's a bunch of discussion earlier in the CILTEP thread about Adderall and CILTEP by other forum users, notably ZRBarnes, that you might find informative. BTW, we were taking Quercetin with the CILTEP stack earlier in the thread but that's no longer recommended and pretty much everyone's using Artichoke Extract or Zembrin as their PDE4 inhibitor.:

http://www.longecity...180#entry516889

In reply, yes it is 200mg forskohilii 20%.

200mg forskohlii * 20% = 40mg of Forskolin. When I take more than 20mg, I get vasodialation headaches. Forskohlii does not taste terrible, and you can put it in coffee or tea, so why don't you try cutting it in half for a few days to see if you get good results?

Also, the first day with good effect I took the 3 racetams not recommended.
For the proceeding days, I have discontinued any racetam use, to no real result.
( Where/which brand piracetam (amazon/rhino) is recommended? )

The problem is if you take too many supplements together without knowing what the baseline is, you can't figure out where the problem is. Try just taking the Forskohlii, artichoke and adderall, all at the same time, and see how it works for you.

How much adderall do you take zrbarnes ? Is it a U-shaped thing? Ill reintroduce it into the stack, and bump it up to 15mg.
I also take a Tums sometimes with the adderall. Do not really feel anything from tums, but read it helps with absorption, keeping dosage low.

Next, what is time between dosages?

I think it is important to take the Adderall either at the same time, or after you take the CILTEP stack. It did not work for me if I took it before CILTEP. I don't think I would try 15mg yet, especially if it is instant release (Adderall IR). More than 5mg caused me to have excessive jaw clinching which I had to treat with magnesium.

I would avoid the taking Tums (at least for now) because it might cause other issues such as the CILTEP stack not being absorbed right.

If you find that the effect still isn't strong enough, drink a couple cups of coffee/tea.

I am a 26 year old male that weighs 140lbs. I have symptoms similar to ADHD-PI, with my main symptoms being low energy, focus and motivation. This is what my regimen was for over a month, and I developed no discernible tolerance:

Morning (empty stomach):

• 5mg Adderall IR
• 2 Nature's Herbs Artichoke Extract capsules
• 100mg of Forskohlii (20mg Forskolin)

Caffeinated coffee and tea throughout the day

Night (before bed):

• 2 capsules of LEF brand Magnesium L-Threonate
• 1/2 tablet Schiff's Sweet Slumber

I found that the effects lasted 8-10 hours with artichoke, longer with quercetin. Instead of using Adderall IR, I found that d-amphetamine extended release + quercetin worked even better, and lasted 12-14 hours. In comparison, 20mg of Adderall IR would only last about 4 hours for me by itself before I started taking CILTEP.

Edited by abelard lindsay, 31 August 2013 - 04:51 PM.