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[InBetween]

Hello to everyone, to begin with, I hope you all have a fucking awesome day.

I will try to briefly explain my situation and what I've been experiencing.

18 years old, been on piracetame, lecithin and pyridinol for about a week or two, don't remember exact dates.

I have been taking from 2.4g to 8g of piracetam, from 2 to 6g of choline (thru soy lecithin) and 600mg of pyridinol, in three doses a day.

In couple past days I have experienced very painful, almost crippling depression - some kind of death threat, feeling like you can't escape death, thinking about other people's lifespans, not feeling human.. Scary. Also had good heights, when felt invincible and able to win and succeed.

In my past, I had pretty rough childhood, with some extreme emotions, some mental breakdowns, been on triticco for 2 months from today, had thoughts of death.. I would describe it as being pretty fucked up. It's hard for me to describe it even to a professional, so it's ever harder here.

I would like to hear some opinions about what could help me in my situation, what I shouldn't do and so. I am sorry for the text being hazy, but I am glad that I could atleast get something out, I am willing to answer any questions or post something more meaningful. Bear with me..

Thanks for anyone who spares their time reading this! cheers

[Layberinthius]

What are you like off any meds?

I can relate in relation to your past life experience, I have had father problems for the last 15-18 years, and its an everyday thing.

[lammas2]

Stop the choline intake.
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Edited by lammas2, 24 September 2013 - 06:50 PM.

[InBetween]

By meds you mean only ADs or Nootropics too?
Meds don't do much for me, I have been taking them mostly for erectile dysfunctions, which is imho caused by emotional problems and relationship stuff, aka head. It got better and I only keep the triticco because it needs to be taken off gradually - blood pressure stuff.
Nootropics - stack that I has been on was crazy, that choline.. phew. Glad that I am alive.

Cut the choline, went with 2.4g pira in the morning, 400 pyritinol. Not much depression, great colors, racing head, speaking a lot, calm thoughts about death. Far from perfect, better than before. After I went to bed for an hour in the afternoon it made me calmer, as I am writing this.

The emotional stuff was so hardcore that some scars are really deep - not trying to sound like a crybaby, it's that I think there has been neuro damage done (or some of other sort).

All of you guys who replied are awesome - really made my day

I would like to try to get a decent combo of nootropics, starting with those of most benefit and perfecting it, getting my head together, being productive and utilising my potential now, then long term health and long life.. I freaking love this forum already. It's like that little playground that I wanted. :D Just kidding.

[socialpiranha]

Stay away from the racetams, and choline...choline can cause depression and racetams agonize ampa receptors. the ampa receptor is like a volume control for sensory perception and cognitive awareness... while this can be good if you have a very stable mind, it can intensify any issues.... Ampa antagonists are used as mood stabilizers i.e topiramate

If your looking for nootropic effects while psychologically unhealthy cerebrolysin might be your best bet.

[InBetween]

Okay, thanks for the reply. Let's say that I am in a hole.. and I need to get out. That hole is pretty deep, so I need all the help possible. What should I take and what not?

[jadamgo]

Sounds like a bipolar spectrum disorder, perhaps cyclothymia aggravated by drugs, but perhaps a full-blown bipolar disorder. You need to stabilize your mood; swinging wildly from invincibility to having a deathwish is a hallmark symptom of the bipolar spectrum.

Lithium, valproate, lamotrigine, carbamazepine, oxcarbazepine, levetiracetam: these are the things you need to look into.