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[Layberinthius]

I'm going to try and pool what knowledge I have about surviving on planet earth, in our current state of society.

Feel free to contribute.

Lets begin with reducing risk associated with living on earth by first identifying what the risks are to an immortalist.

The number of enemies that the immortalist faces are insurmountable, but the big ones in my opinion are:

#1 Loneliness/disease: cancer, diabetes, heart failure, depression, stroke, tumors.
#2 Boredom
#3 Depression/suicide/Accidents due to falls/car crashes.
#4 Limited brain memory capacity (I've already reached mine.)
#5 Current Consumerist society hellbent on destroying everything in their path for shiney new things.
#6 Other hostile human beings hellbent on destroying our lives (torture/torment/bullying/murder)
#7 Government that refuses to change, refuses to acknowledge our existence and our cause as a good one.
#8 Famine and poverty.
#9 A lack of personal training in the art of survivalism and the lack of constant personal preperation and training of yourself to survive as many scenarios as possible.
#10 Not taking suitably safe transportation, For example:
#10.1 preventative measures to avoid risk. Eg. riding a motorbike instead of driving a car, deliberatley driving in rush hour for minor reasons, owning and operating a car at all, owning a car is a HUGE RISK!
#11 Even having bad oral hygiene can end up doing us in, and you may not even notice it until its too late.

Being trapped without air/food/water:
#1 A collapse of a highrise/tall building and you being traped inside of it.
#2 Being trapped inside of a car/bus/light aircraft/jet airplane.
#3 Being trapped and incapacitated inside of a house.
#4 Being trapped inside of a well.
#5 Being trapped inside of a dungeon/castle.
#6 Being trapped inside of a police station prison cell.

Drowning:
#1 In water
#2 In quicksand
#3 In petroleum product

For #2 the SAS method is to use a stick or a branch from a nearby tree and pull yourself out, or use the stick to get your lower body out of the quicksand and higher up, so that you can then waddle (like a duck) towards firmer ground. The trick is to make yourself as flat as possible inorder to increase surface area (like how a boat stays afloat) and then slowly move yourself towards firmer ground. DO NOT kick or move around that will just make you go deeper down. (Needs clarification)

Asphyxiation:
#1 Choking on an object, how to clear the blockage.
#2 Choking on a thick liquid such as fats (I have a solution to this one, drink scalding hot water, it will melt the fat and theoretically clear the blockage/airway.)
#3 Failed suicide attempt, ie waking up from a suicide attempt while choking, what to do.

Stabbed in any of your pheripheral body parts:
#1 Stabbed in the arm
#2 Stabbed in a leg
#3 Stabbed in the neck

I know one thing that I would be doing in the first two events, getting a torniquet and stopping the blood flow with it by wrapping it around my arm or leg and pulling on tight.

I might make a wiki for all of this.

Edited by Layberinthius, 08 November 2013 - 02:16 PM.

[maxwatt]

The risk of a catastrophic meteor impact in any given year are somewhere on the order of one in eighteen thousand or so, quite a bit higher than many of the other things the OP mentioned. Would living near the poles, or to the equator, be more likely to improve ones odds of survival in such an event?

The odds of being in a serious auto accident in a normal lifetime are something like one in ten. I don't have a figure for the odds of a fatal auto accident, but I think they are much higher than most if not all of the above mentioned hazards. So staying away from automobiles might be the single most effective way to improve your odds.

[Layberinthius]

Yes exactly, cars are meat grinders.

I doubt that going to the poles will make things safer. unless you intend upon living in a bunker in sweden or some such, but a meteor can make a pretty big dent in the ground too!

From memory meteors dont actually choose to hit any paticular part of the earth, its all about timing and angle of approach, ie a random factor. They do not follow the earths magnetic fields and align themselves at all

Remember the one which hit Russia not long back? it exploded in the atmosphere with 33x the power of hiroshima.

http://www.smh.com.a...0218-2em5w.html

The best method to avoid meteors I think personally would be to simply keep an eye out for them and to live next to a bullet train, so that you can run and escape asap. Either that or near a large body of water so incase the meteor sets the ground/forest on fire you can escape to the water to keep cool, that trick also works for volcanoes.

But then of course you have a risk associated with living near to a large body of water, ie from Tsunami, My personal choice would have to be a house by the ocean or lake with an airtight bunker underneath the house buried in the ground and a large hill nearby.

So in the event of a Tsunami you can climb the hill and be saved.
Or in the event of a meteor striking the earth you can go into the water and be saved.
Or in the event of both or even just one, or not being able to get to the destination that you desired, you can hide out in the bunker until things calm down.

That is 3 escape routes there. ALWAYS have at least 3.

The mere fact that we are stuck upside down (relative to the sky), hanging off this huge planet of ours (relative to our size) peering down into an infinite abyss of space should tell you something, that we are most definatley living on a vulnerable little blue ball in the solar system/galaxy/universe and that anything we can do to avoid risk associated with our daily menial lives should be our primary focus at this point in time.

The reason why issues on earth should be our primary focus and not meteorites is that meteors are large, very fast moving objects which we cannot control unless we eat a shit ton of spinach and don a superman cape.

It sure was a nice topic while it lasted though.

At the present moment the only thing which would save our bacon against a big one is:
#1 having prior monthly foreknowledge of a possible mass extinction event going to occur in the future by a large nasty looking asteroid hurtling towards us.
#2 having a nuclear arsenal primed and ready sitting atop of an interplanetary missle capable of reaching AT LEAST as far out as Mars, we will have to intercept it far out enough from earth after all.
#3 having the balls to launch enough nukes against the fucker to fry us all and send us back into an ice age if it should ever come back down to earth and burn up (polluting us all).

It may be easier to simply let it hit earth, and start all over again. You cannot stop a punk kid from smashing your windows, so dont worry, be happy!, the earth has been through worse before.

We of course may no longer be here anymore unless you live at least 5 km down, or inside of an enormous mountain, with all of the associated blast doors, air/water filtering equipment and external internet/satellite/HF/VHF/UHF antenna connections (to stop you from going insane).

Edited by Layberinthius, 08 November 2013 - 03:46 PM.

[Layberinthius]

LIghtning and Thunderstorms, what are the risks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GraH7SAnNNY

The risk is high that you or I would be struck by lightning.

I suggest to everyone that if they have a matress with springs inside of it that they remove it and replace it with a high quality foam matress, either that or keep the matress and bed away from all power outlets, phone outlets and household windows.

The safest place in the house is in the center of it, this goes for tornadoes and cyclones aswell, but the main reason why I bring this up while I am talking about lightning is that lightning can typically follow through inside a window and into a light socket, or power switch.

http://www.youtube.c...ing damage&sm=3

Statistically the safest place to be during a lightning storm is inside of a car, with your arms and hands folded in the center of your legs, without touching the steering wheel or the door handle, try also to avoid anything metal being on your body at the time, if there is anything metal then place it inside of the center console or inside the glove compartment.

DO NOT LEAVE THE CAR until it is over, unless you need to due to flooding or in an emergency.



Another thing, do not go around unplugging everything IF THE THUNDERSTORM HAS ALREADY ARRIVED, If it HAS then bunker down and just WAIT for it to be over. Your equipment is no substitute for your life!

Edited by Layberinthius, 16 November 2013 - 03:45 AM.

[Florian Xavier]

Social comparaison is the powefulest thing that can induce psychiatric problems.

Anyway, the odd of surviving 100 y is very very small.