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#31 Missjess

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:39 AM

Hey u should look into healing with john of god...I am going to see him at the end of the month. He is capable of healing schizophrenia aswel. Not sure how long it could take but it's worth having a look...have a read through the forums and healing stories here: http://www.friendsof...rnid=56&page=56 I think it mentions some things about a couple of ppl with schizophrenia in the forum section at the bottom...

Antipsychotic drugs will disconnect from ur soul & most likely cause permanant brain damage/chemistry changes and u don't want that!!!
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#32 0010

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:17 AM

Thanks for being supportive! Im now given the newest generation antipsychotic abilify, so my life isn't as miserable as it used to be. Im now in remission and getting better.
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:53 PM

Hey u should look into healing with john of god...I am going to see him at the end of the month. He is capable of healing schizophrenia aswel. Not sure how long it could take but it's worth having a look...have a read through the forums and healing stories here: http://www.friendsof...rnid=56&page=56 I think it mentions some things about a couple of ppl with schizophrenia in the forum section at the bottom...

Antipsychotic drugs will disconnect from ur soul & most likely cause permanant brain damage/chemistry changes and u don't want that!!!


A medium? :|o

#34 Jeoshua

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:56 AM

Yeah... I'd stick with western medicine, or failing that, at least something well trodden like Ayurveda.

Anectodal evidence is not evidence, at all. You can show me thousands upon thousands of people that claim they feel better after dealing with that guy, but until there is an explanation or scientific study that proves it, it's still just bedtime stories.

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Schizo, I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. Fingers crossed that it works out well, for you.

I thought of you when reading a study, today. It dealt with Bipolar disorder, so it wasn't exactly 100% applicable, but it did have some interesting insights into light levels, sleep, and mood stabilization. Best part, no drugs were required for it's effects to work, and was shown to work very well with low level doses of conventional drugs and other remedies. The basic idea is extremely simple... so simple that most people would immediately discount it: Darkness.

By removing the lights, and all electronic devices of any kind, from the bedroom, this study was able to cause a near elimination of the sleep cycle disruption and mood swings of a bipolar patient who did not respond well to any drugs, at all. From 8pm to 6am, there was no light in the room, and the subject could not leave the room except to use the bathroom.

It was really impressive, I'm thinking about trying it, myself. Have a look:

http://www.psycheduc...sion/darkrx.htm

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#35 Missjess

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:34 PM

Yeah a medium who has helped 1000s of people with all sorts of ailments. Why not? U don't need scientifically proof for everything because not everything is scientific. Anyways I plan to go and see him myself at the end of the month to see if he can fix my out of whack brain chemistry from using iboga...I shall keep uz updated!

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:11 AM

Yeah a medium who has helped 1000s of people with all sorts of ailments. Why not? U don't need scientifically proof for everything because not everything is scientific. Anyways I plan to go and see him myself at the end of the month to see if he can fix my out of whack brain chemistry from using iboga...I shall keep uz updated!


I don't believe in mediums, but I think that maybe these people what they have is a skill to see (perception of involuntary body signals in response to talk, or just cold reading) what problem a person has and offer a ritual which may work as a placebo or who knows what. But why to travel to Brazil? I am sure there are some of those persons everywhere e.g. aboriginal healers, charismatic priests, etc.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:54 AM

Im aware of their ''brain shrinking'' properties.That's one of the main undiscussed reasons I'm afraid to take them as they already have had negative impact on my memory,social skills. I completely agree with katimaya. Maybe strychnine can improve my tardive dyskenia?


Before taking strychnine which sounds pretty risky I'd rather do a search on pubmed for TD and treatment options likevitamins and what not. I am sure there are other things you could try first. Or google TD and treatment options. I googled a bit in the past and I know that I found articles on alternative options for treating TD. Maybe you could also look at nutritional journals and data bases. Does anyone here know equivalents to pubmed only with a bigger focus on nutrition?Here's one example:


http://jn.nutrition....t=yes&x=18&y=10

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:59 AM

Hey u should look into healing with john of god...I am going to see him at the end of the month. He is capable of healing schizophrenia aswel. Not sure how long it could take but it's worth having a look...have a read through the forums and healing stories here: http://www.friendsof...rnid=56&page=56 I think it mentions some things about a couple of ppl with schizophrenia in the forum section at the bottom...

Antipsychotic drugs will disconnect from ur soul & most likely cause permanant brain damage/chemistry changes and u don't want that!!!


Sounds dangerous to me. Probably some kind of guru who rips off people or uses mind control techniques. I mean the name "John of God" already sounds highly suspicious. I'd rather go to a regular christian church where they believe in divine healing.

#39 Nobility

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 07:48 PM

Have you tried stopping smoking weed?.

I'm not saying weed causes Paranoia, but there are cases that Weed does cause Paranoia. Full stop. you can argue all you want, but the fact and I will draw the line in the golden sand, there are some people that get schizophrenia or schizophrenia-like features from smoking cannabis.

While cannabis can be great, hell you may say it calms you down, maybe so. But the matter of the fact is that cannabis has been PROVEN that it can cause schizophrenia or schizophrenia-like features. and this is peoples experiences.

So maybe, stop the weed and see if you get better?

Yeah a medium who has helped 1000s of people with all sorts of ailments. Why not? U don't need scientifically proof for everything because not everything is scientific. Anyways I plan to go and see him myself at the end of the month to see if he can fix my out of whack brain chemistry from using iboga...I shall keep uz updated!


medium , try therapy by doctors.

- it works.
- costs less.
- no bullshit.
- etc.

#40 goodman

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:19 AM

my parents also force me to take triflon...its stupid but on the other side it prevents me from bumming out! id rather smoke weed and stay in a fantasy world but life is not that easy

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:26 PM

Stopped taking all prescribed drugs Abilify,Carbamezapine,Seroquel,Coaxil cold turkey. I think I'm good for now and feel much better without taking them. Grandiosity is slowly coming back and I'm experiencing mild hypomania as there are surges of intense and emotionally profound thoughts going through my head and it certainly is a good feeling. I think i made a good decision because I slowly began noticing heart problems like sudden pain in the chest (I have a cardiovascular exams every 2 months and they told me i had irregular heart beat or some sort of arrhythmia because of antipsychotics). My libido has gone through the roof since I quit my medication, okay this might sound kinda embarrassing but when i was on the drugs my newly met gf wanted to have sex with me but i rejected her saying that I was on drugs and that i couldn't maintain an erection after that she started to ignore me a bit by not replying to my text messages but now seems that the tables have turned and I'm planning to surprise her on valentine's day.

@Nobility

I've smoked marijuana many times and there was one time when I heard a monotone mans voice talking in made-up language. I was scared for two weeks after the experience.Note: I was ill before I tried weed and then i fell into a void of drug use and afterwards self-isolation.
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:45 PM

Try seeing if your doc is willing to get you on Lurasidone.

I've been on it before, along with a few others. It's honestly not at all bad IMO, no zombifying.

It's now my standby as prophylaxis for the occasional bout of stimulant psychosis when I'm up 30+ hours.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:16 AM

It sounds like you're the victim of incredibly abusive parenting. Your parents are now trying to control you through pharmacology. You are young and you need to urgently get away from this situation. PM me and I'll gladly brainstorm with you as to how to get you out of this situation.

Some good reading:

http://charltonteach...-to-people.html

If you gave away antipsychotics/ mood stablizers, free of charge, to anybody who asked for them - almost-nobody would want them

What Do Children Owe Abusive Parents?

Who really has the psychosis?: https://heartiste.wo...of-single-moms/


Glad you're off the abilify. I too have heard of many people's live ruined by this drug (held in a vegetative state with complete loss of vigor, motivation and joie de vivre, years pass like months and they find themselves at 60 in a wretched state with absolutely no self determination, no pride and no power.)

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 01:12 PM

Have you tried alternative treatments that have shown promising results in placebo-controlled studies (add-on therapy)?
See my topic: http://www.longecity...-treatmentcure/ and schizophreniaoptions.com
I'd at least try adding in NAC and sarcosine and see how it goes.
No treatment is not really an option. You know yourself that it doesn't work. If you don't take meds, find something else. Not doing anything seems like the worst choice of all. That's just my 2 cents, though.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 02:09 PM

@longschi

I'm about to order sunifiram. I've heard that it helps with schizophrenia by activating NMDA receptors which play a major role in the disease. Could you recommend me a good sarcosine source?

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

That stuff is hard to find. I take a product with d-aspartic acid (google DAA professional) (1.5g DAA + 1g Sarcosine is what I currently take)
I ordered pure sarcosine from www.hinmeijer.nl appr. 4 weeks ago and haven't received anything yet. Still hoping for it to finally arrive. I only found that source somewhere here on the forum. It also said that it can take several weeks to arrive.
When you don't have problems with customs, you can order from the U.S.: http://profrontal.com/
You only get it with NAC, though. Which has no more side effects than placebo and can help with schizophrenia.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:34 PM

I'd get free t3 and total testosterone tested..possibly also cortisol and dhea. Read some endocrinology books by broda barnes...eat more oily fish (not just fish oil). Coming on and off drugs, prescribed or not, is doing a lot of damage to the brain. I'm thinking endocrine problems with the extremes of your depression - yet clearly you are not stupid. Any history of head trauma or vaccines that caused problems? Possibly you also have a vitamin conversion problem like b12 or parasites/infections. If your family has no history of it at least... that should be a huge red flag

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 10:09 PM

I sometimes have whats called a ''thyroid storm''. I begin to rapidly lose weight,have hand tremors and become extremely anxious.My free test is little above 700 ng/dl, got that tested after i squeezed my testicle at sports class lol. I inject myself with 5 vials of vitamin b complex about twice a year because of my mild anemia. When i was in my uber-brain-power mode I thought that I had every disease I've read about and got checked for std's,toxoplasma gondii and even got a MRI brain scan done when i was at the mental clinic,my brain was fine but as it turns out i have a cyst in my upper jaw. I have no history of any traumatic brain injury whatsoever.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:31 AM

High thyroid can mean low cortisol. That would explain high adrenaline and some blood sugar related psychosis. Could be cortisol or thyroid resistance. T resistance treated with high dose t3. Cortisol resistance treated with dexamethasone





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