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NRX-1074 topic. (Future group buy)

Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 19 Apr 2016

1 spot left for 500 mg.

 

Then we set everything in motion...

 

Cheers.


Edited by redan, 19 April 2016 - 07:08 PM.
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Milkyway11's Photo Milkyway11 19 Apr 2016

I would like to get 250 mg.

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

We're at 6000 or even more.

 

The group buy is closed. 

 

Updates on the progress of the synthesis will be posted here. 

 

Cheers.

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jefferson's Photo jefferson 20 Apr 2016

Redan, at this point can you roughly estimate when this compound will be synthesized and received by you?

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

I'll ask Nick about that for you.

 

I'll have him update us by posting here.

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nbourbaki's Photo nbourbaki 20 Apr 2016

We're at 6000 or even more.

 

The group buy is closed. 

 

Updates on the progress of the synthesis will be posted here. 

 

Cheers.

 

Can't thank you enough for pulling this together Redan!

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Nick Kyz's Photo Nick Kyz 20 Apr 2016

We've raised the requisite $6000 :), with my $2000 that gives us enough for 10 grams + analysis. 

 

However, yesterday I heard back from my analytical laboratory and to build out the methods for analysis they will need at minimum 2 grams. That's $1600 in product and $500 in analytical testing (potentially more). So I see a couple options:

1) Everyone gets less so we all get analysis.

2) I increase the buy to 12 grams. I would probably front the cost since fundraising is tedious. 

3) No analysis. I don't like this option.

 

I'm leaning towards option 2 but it depends on the pricing and I will probably need to negotiate. So for the time being I'll allow stragglers into the group buy and it will officially close once we place the order for synthesis (in 1-2 weeks). 


Edited by Nick Kyz, 20 April 2016 - 02:50 PM.
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opusensemble's Photo opusensemble 20 Apr 2016

This is slightly off-topic, but may come handy if and when we need to understand the HPLC lab results, (in case it's HPLC what they're using) 
http://polymer.ustc....63097048536.pdf

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Nick Kyz's Photo Nick Kyz 20 Apr 2016

We will be using proton NMR to confirm the chemical structure and then HPLC to confirm purity.

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

We've raised the requisite $6000 :), with my $2000 that gives us enough for 10 grams + analysis. 

 

However, yesterday I heard back from my analytical laboratory and to build out the methods for analysis they will need at minimum 2 grams. That's $1600 in product and $500 in analytical testing (potentially more). So I see a couple options:

1) Everyone gets less so we all get analysis.

2) I increase the buy to 12 grams. I would probably front the cost since fundraising is tedious. 

3) No analysis. I don't like this option.

 

I'm leaning towards option 2 but it depends on the pricing and I will probably need to negotiate. So for the time being I'll allow stragglers into the group buy and it will officially close once we place the order for synthesis (in 1-2 weeks). 

#2?

 

Anyone? 

 

Will it delay the synthesis significantly? If not, I can live with that and everyone gets the amount they were promised...

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neuroatypicow's Photo neuroatypicow 20 Apr 2016

do i understand you correctly, if you go with #2, you would front the additional cost, get things rolling along, and keep the buy-in open for additional persons in order to recoup the amount you fronted?

i would be ok with that. it seems like we could accumulate additional participants easily enough, taking into account how quickly we raised the principal.

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opusensemble's Photo opusensemble 20 Apr 2016

@neuroatypicow. The scenario you're describing is #1. #2 would of course be the desirable option for all participants (@ Nick's expense)

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

do i understand you correctly, if you go with #2, you would front the additional cost, get things rolling along, and keep the buy-in open for additional persons in order to recoup the amount you fronted?

i would be ok with that. it seems like we could accumulate additional participants easily enough, taking into account how quickly we raised the principal.

Yes; but, would you guys be OK with having participants paying 100 USD for 100 mg as there don't seem to be many people willing to put in orders for 250 mg or 500 mg? It does seem unfair to the first participants who paid the lions share for 500 mg; but, then again would further solidify the possibility of making a second group buy given more people interested and happy with the positive effects from this first group buy.


Edited by redan, 20 April 2016 - 10:08 PM.
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neuroatypicow's Photo neuroatypicow 20 Apr 2016

to make it easier for peeps with less spare $ laying around to participate? yes. those of us who paid $400 for 500mg are getting a better deal anyway. the only downside of allowing smaller buy-ins is perhaps prolonging initiating the beginning of synthesis by too much. are we talking extra days, weeks, or a month?

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

to make it easier for peeps with less spare $ laying around to participate? yes. those of us who paid $400 for 500mg are getting a better deal anyway. the only downside of allowing smaller buy-ins is perhaps prolonging initiating the beginning of synthesis by too much. are we talking extra days, weeks, or a month?

We can ask Nick to set a deadline to last minute potential participants who are on the fence (say 1-2 weeks) and whatever isn't collected will be covered by Nick after that period. 

 

Hope that makes sense...

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neuroatypicow's Photo neuroatypicow 20 Apr 2016

that sounds fine

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nyckrazy's Photo nyckrazy 20 Apr 2016

dammit!! I missed it!! I leave for a few weeks come back to find out you guys actually got a group buy finished!! arrghh!!!

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

dammit!! I missed it!! I leave for a few weeks come back to find out you guys actually got a group buy finished!! arrghh!!!

You can still join. Do you want 500 mg for 400 USD?

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Nick Kyz's Photo Nick Kyz 20 Apr 2016

What I will probably do is try to get the same unit price we planned on a larger order, taking into consideration the cost of analysis which had been a question mark until now. If that's not possible then we can reevaluate.

 

Nyles has had good results with GLYX-13, which is an encouraging sign for NRX-1074. 

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Reformed-Redan's Photo Reformed-Redan 20 Apr 2016

So, basically we can still allow some more spots to be filled for $100 for 100 mg of NRX-1074. 

 

Worth trying at the very least. 

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Helllllo's Photo Helllllo 21 Apr 2016

Are there any spots left? Was strapped for cash and just got paid :(
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Nick Kyz's Photo Nick Kyz 21 Apr 2016

@Helllllo We're letting in stragglers until I place the order in 1-2 weeks.

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Water Buffalo's Photo Water Buffalo 21 Apr 2016

I'm in for 250 mg.

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nyckrazy's Photo nyckrazy 21 Apr 2016

Im in for 250mg as well. I can send via paypal. I live in the U.S. new york area.
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jefferson's Photo jefferson 21 Apr 2016

What I will probably do is try to get the same unit price we planned on a larger order, taking into consideration the cost of analysis which had been a question mark until now. If that's not possible then we can reevaluate.

 

Nyles has had good results with GLYX-13, which is an encouraging sign for NRX-1074. 

 

From what I read in his thread Nyles was snorting the stuff. Might this be possible with NRX instead of converting it into a nasal spray? It seems like an oral dose of it is futile considering the low dosages we're going to get. I'm not injecting it.

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nyckrazy's Photo nyckrazy 21 Apr 2016

just paid, im so excited! thank heavens! redan you are the man!


Edited by nyckrazy, 21 April 2016 - 09:26 PM.
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Bukujutsu's Photo Bukujutsu 22 Apr 2016

So, basically we can still allow some more spots to be filled for $100 for 100 mg of NRX-1074. 

 

Worth trying at the very least. 

 

Darn, I hadn't read this thread in quite a while and didn't know a group buy had begun and was nearing completion. Redan had recently PM'd me on Reddit, and I was willing, but I asked if there were lower amounts for sale since at the estimated intranasal and sublingual doses even 250mg would last 1-2 years, without even knowing if you responded well.

 

I'd certainly buy 100mg. If someone were to make a thread on r/nootropics about its efficacy and unique MOA, slipping in a question about whether anyone knew if it was available anywhere, and another poster linked to this thread and the details, you could rapidly fill the remaining gap with certainty.

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Nick Kyz's Photo Nick Kyz 23 Apr 2016

We could put up a preorder product page, for the $100/100mg offer. I'm just hesitant to get too many people involved until we've had more experience with this initial buy. Normally I would source a compound for personal use before bringing it to market. For example, I've been using several antioxidant mimetics like Tempol and Ebselen, that I plan to add to IRC.Bio.

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samson75's Photo samson75 24 Apr 2016

Hello, i've been reading this thread for weeks. My depression has been partially resisting to

medication for years. Magnetic brain stimulation was completly useless. I really wish to find

something new, even if not available in my country yet.

If still possible i'm willing to participate in this group buy, either 250 or 100mg if still available.

PM me in order to tell me the procedure.

 

Thank you.

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uppercut1991's Photo uppercut1991 27 Apr 2016

So guys, Have you already started sythesis , if not how much it will take to start , then

 

The Faster, The better because i cannot wait

Once again greetings for redan and Nick Kyz

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