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[tazzz96]

Hey guys
 

I have exams starting in a month (mid-may), and they are spaced out all the way until June 20th.

Ok so currently I take
8am - 800mg piracetam + 750mg ALCAR + Ginkgo biloba + Fish oil (fish oil taken about half an hour after piracetam etc)

12pm - 800mg piracetam
4pm - 800mg piracetam 

I don't think I need choline, because I'm not getting any headaches at all (I eat 2 eggs every day except monday and thursday). Although I do have 250mg choline citrate tablets available.

What else should/could I add to make this stack even more potent, and when should I take it? (Every/other day, timing etc).

To increase the potency, I was thinking about also adding L-theanine and a bit of caffeine. If its a good idea, when should I take it and how much? Also should I be taking the L-theanine+caffeine for 2 months straight or cycle it?

Cheers 

[tazzz96]

ALSO - I've recently read about bulletproof coffee, and how amazing it supposedly is.

 

Would taking the L-Theanine with bulletproof coffee be fine? Also, is it fine to have coffee/caffeine every day for 2 months? Or should I just take it coming up to the week with my hardest exams (2 chemistry and 2 maths exams)?

 

Thanks

Edited by tazzz96, 09 April 2014 - 10:43 AM.

[tazzz96]

I was also considering Adding 500mg of l-tyrosine every morning for its supposed memory benefits. Would it be a good idea to take this for 2 months or to cycle?

[AmpleBeingdotcom]

Have you considered an LTP stack to use for studying/retaining information?

 

Artichoke + Forskolin with some added boosters has really helped me and some of my customers focus on school and preparing for exams.

[tazzz96]

Have you considered an LTP stack to use for studying/retaining information?

 

Artichoke + Forskolin with some added boosters has really helped me and some of my customers focus on school and preparing for exams.

 

Yes I have considered it, but being 1 month until my exams start and 2 until they finish, would I actually see any benefits? I plan to stop taking all of these things about 70 days from now

 

Also, if I were to take artichoke and forskolin, what would be your recommended dosage and timing of it?

would they work alongside my current stack of 

2400mg piracetam

750mg ALCAR

150mg L-Theanine (suntheanine)

200mg caffeine

120mg gingko biloba

???

 

thanks

Edited by tazzz96, 14 April 2014 - 05:22 PM.

[AmpleBeingdotcom]

Many of our customers have experienced results within the first few days and typically within the first week, so being one month out should not be a problem.

 

As for dosages of artichoke and Forskolin it can vary person-to-person but most have had great results around 500mg of Artichoke Extract and 4mg of Forskolin. 

 

I would look into procuring these ingredients in the UK and adding them into your current stack (they should work great with ALCAR and L-Theanine especially). 

 

We sell a very reasonably priced supplement with these ingredients that would be perfect for you, but currently do not ship outside of the US.

 

Check into a local supplement supplier and see if you can find a local company that could supply these for you.

 

Good luck on the exams!

[tazzz96]

Many of our customers have experienced results within the first few days and typically within the first week, so being one month out should not be a problem.
 
As for dosages of artichoke and Forskolin it can vary person-to-person but most have had great results around 500mg of Artichoke Extract and 4mg of Forskolin. 
 
I would look into procuring these ingredients in the UK and adding them into your current stack (they should work great with ALCAR and L-Theanine especially). 
 
We sell a very reasonably priced supplement with these ingredients that would be perfect for you, but currently do not ship outside of the US.
 
Check into a local supplement supplier and see if you can find a local company that could supply these for you.
 
Good luck on the exams!

Ok I'm definitely going to have an extensive look into those 2 then. When would you say would be the best time to take them?

Thanks man!

[AmpleBeingdotcom]

If you want to really dive into it and get all of your questions answered head over to this thread: 
http://www.longecity...ly-induced-ltp/

 

You will get a great idea of exactly what to combine and the dosages that you should start with.

 

If you have family/friends in the US send me a PM.

[tazzz96]

If you want to really dive into it and get all of your questions answered head over to this thread: 
http://www.longecity...ly-induced-ltp/
 
You will get a great idea of exactly what to combine and the dosages that you should start with.
 
If you have family/friends in the US send me a PM.

Thanks, I'll have a deep look into it and hopefully order from Amazon or eBay next week.

I have some family in America - if this works for me I'll point them in your direction

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Edited by tazzz96, 15 April 2014 - 10:02 AM.

[Ritchie]

You could also try mucuna pruriens. It's also a dopamine precursor just stronger and more effective than tyrosine. This would promote dopamine release and make dopaminergic and adrenergic stimulants more effective.

Edited by Ritchie, 22 April 2014 - 05:24 AM.

[tazzz96]

You could also try mucuna pruriens. It's also a dopamine precursor just stronger and more effective than tyrosine. This would promote dopamine release and make dopaminergic and adrenergic stimulants more effective.

Cheers - I searched this online and it said that mucuna pruriens shouldn't be continually used, so I think I'll use L-phenylalanine instead, using it everyday midweek and not using on weekends.



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[Sanguine_Rogue]

Bulletproof Coffee (BPC) is great!! I'm glad to see there might be other bulletproof guys here )

I'd say try out some Sunifiram and see if it amps up your stack for you, and take it on those testing days. Sunifiram is made from breaking the backbone of Piracetam and attaching a piperazine (I believe I might be mistaken though), and is supposedly around 1000x more potent than Piracetam (again could be mistaken). Sunifiram also wouldn't be something that you would need to take for a few days to a week to build up its effects, the first time you take it it works (it did for me and a few chosen friends I sampled mine out to).

 

[tazzz96]

I was thinking of starting bulletproof coffee, but the problem is I hate black coffee, it's disgusting. I'll just stick to caffeine tablets Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[Sanguine_Rogue]

I believe you add various oils and butter to the coffee to make it BPC.

Personally i prefer cafe sua da (vietnamese iced milk coffee) which is easy to make. French chicory coffee + sweetened condensed milk + ice = Delicious coffee that easily masks small to medium doses of piracetam well enough.

[tazzz96]

I believe you add various oils and butter to the coffee to make it BPC.
Personally i prefer cafe sua da (vietnamese iced milk coffee) which is easy to make. French chicory coffee + sweetened condensed milk + ice = Delicious coffee that easily masks small to medium doses of piracetam well enough.

Sounds interesting, I'm going to look into it.
How much caffeine is in that and how long does it take to prepare?? I'd need to be able to make it before an exam

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[Jeoshua]

BPC contains as much caffeine as whatever coffee you use to make it. Now, you will find information online regarding BPC that will mention mycotoxins -- Ignore That!

Mycotoxins are a known issue with poorly processed coffee, and they have been known about for years. You will easily be able to avoid them by choosing a premium blend of coffee. I recommend organic Kona blend, for its delicious nutty taste (which I actually prefer black). Don't get crappy dollar store coffee and you will have the right type of coffee. The "Mycotoxin" thing is just a selling point that Dave Asprey invented, not something he found a unique and previously unknown solution for.

As far as prep time, it takes just as long to make BPC as it would take to brew a coffee with cream and sugar, only you'll be using Coconut/MCT Oil and Butter.

Oh, and you can sweeten it, so long as you don't use Aspartame or Sugar. I like Stevia, myself, but you could probably use Inositol or Glycine just as easily, and it might even add something to the effects (especially Inositol).

Edited by Jeoshua, 25 April 2014 - 07:21 AM.

[Sanguine_Rogue]

Cafe sua da takes about 15-20 minutes to make. Since it is made using a uh......metal perculater (i think). So the hot water

drips down into the cup slowly. You should already have the sweetened condensed milk in the cup before you start adding the

hot water. Once the cup has enough coffee in it, stir it up and drop in your noots.

It isn't going to taste all that great...but it's better than water, and damn sure better than trying to take it by itself.

As to the caffeine content...I don't know. A lot? Like the chicory coffee by itself is stronger than most other coffees.

[tazzz96]

Damn who knew coffee was so complicated lol. I think I'll try to stick to 200mg caffeine tablets and L Theanine, because I wake up like 50 minutes before school/exams so it's just about enough time to eat etc. Thanks though guys Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[tazzz96]

Just a little log. Today I took:

9am: 800mg piracetam + 750mg ALCAR

 

11am: 500mg artichoke + 500mg L-phenylalanine + 10mg forskolin (Basically CILTEP but individually taken), 120mg Gingko Biloba

 

12.30pm: 200mg caffeine, 150mg L-Theanine, fish oil capsule, 800mg Piracetam

 

3.30pm: 800mg piracetam

 

 

Piracetam already gives me great memory recall, but today I just felt a lot better. I don't know if its because of the caffeine + l theanine or if its the CILTEP, but I felt so awake during my biology class (1.30-3.15pm) today! I literally could remember everything my teacher said and I answered way more questions correctly than normal.

I'm going to keep trying this, and tomorrow I'll take the same but minus the caffeine + L-theanine, and on saturday I'll take away the CILTEP and I'll report back if anyone's interested.

 

Also, if anyone knows - do you guys think CILTEP would have any effect on mathematical ability at all? I know it's long term memory and all that, so mostly information, but I can't find if it will have any effect on maths. Maths is the main reason I'm taking anything at all. 

 

Thanks

Edited by tazzz96, 29 April 2014 - 04:57 PM.

[Sanguine_Rogue]

I haven't tried CILTEP yet, and once this semester is over I'll be ordering some to dabble with over the summer.

 

Coffee can be very complicated especially if you love it and want to try all the variants available.

 

Caffeine and L Theanine can really change a basic piracetam stack and make it much more potent and effective. I think it has something to do with all of the GABA stimulation and the fact that caffeine and piracetam are supposed to work together as well as caffeine and l theanine. So you have almost a daisy chain of synergy going on, if that makes any sense.

[tazzz96]

I haven't tried CILTEP yet, and once this semester is over I'll be ordering some to dabble with over the summer.
 
Coffee can be very complicated especially if you love it and want to try all the variants available.
 
Caffeine and L Theanine can really change a basic piracetam stack and make it much more potent and effective. I think it has something to do with all of the GABA stimulation and the fact that caffeine and piracetam are supposed to work together as well as caffeine and l theanine. So you have almost a daisy chain of synergy going on, if that makes any sense.

I don't know what specific thing it is, but my overall stack has made a huge improvement. Over 2 weeks, I've gone from a D in chemistry to an A (doing 2 different class mock exams) and from a C to an A in biology. I'd say its mainly the piracetam + ALCAR + Ginkgo + caffeine + L Theanine, as I only started taking the CILTEP this week.

The ciltep has had an effect though, my ability to remember and recall information has got better over the past week. I can almost read something once and remember it. I could never do that a month ago. I'll be resting from CILTEP this weekend.

Maybe one more month and I'll be up to the A* in maths that I need.

Also, do you have any idea how long it'd take to build up tolerance to 200mg of caffeine if taken 5 days a week?



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[Sanguine_Rogue]

Hmm I don't think you'll build up tolerance to the caffeine as you take breaks from it. Personally i can't tell when caffeine is effective or not after a few weeks, so I would say it might take 2-3 weeks before tolerance is built up. But with you not taking it over the weekend you might not build any tolerance at all, if you do notice some tolerance try not taking it 3 days a week and you shulod be fine.

[tazzz96]

Ok thanks man. Appreciated! :-) Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[tazzz96]

Hi again guys

 

I was thinking of adding noopept 30mg 5 days a week to my stack, but thought I'd get your opinions first.

 

I currently take:

7:30am - 800mg piracetam, 750mg ALCAR, CILTeP (500mg L-phenylalanine, 500mg artichoke extract, 10mg forskolin), 120mg ginkgo biloba

8:30am - 200mg caffeine + 150mg L-Theanine + B-Vitamin complex + omega-3 fish oil capsule

12pm - 800mg piracetam

4pm - 800mg piracetam

 

I don't need choline as I don't get the dreaded pira headaches, and I consume 2 eggs 5 days a week anyway.

 

I feel like I need a tiny extra bit of brain power - Do you guys think it'd be a good idea to add noopept to this stack? Would it synergise well, seeing as its a polypeptide, not a racetam? If so, what dosages should I think of, and what days should I take it to prevent tolerance?

 

My exams finish in 2 months btw, so when they finish I'll slowly come off everything.

 

Cheers.

[tazzz96]

Actually never mind. Being this close to my exams, I'm not going to add anything else to my stack Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[Sanguine_Rogue]

If you had added the Noopept you would have been fine. I always prefer that if I'm adding something new into my stack for the purpose of turbocharging it for a period of time to shoot for something really potent and that responds quickly. Phenylpiracetam, Noopept, and Sunifiram have all been like that for me. So I typically alternate through them in my daily stack or use a completely different stack for a specific day.

[tazzz96]

If you had added the Noopept you would have been fine. I always prefer that if I'm adding something new into my stack for the purpose of turbocharging it for a period of time to shoot for something really potent and that responds quickly. Phenylpiracetam, Noopept, and Sunifiram have all been like that for me. So I typically alternate through them in my daily stack or use a completely different stack for a specific day.

I actually did buy some noopept - do you think its ok to just take 10mg on the odd afternoon? Say every Monday and Thursday at 4pm?

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[Sanguine_Rogue]

Yea you should be fine doing that, I don't think noopept takes too long to build up and take effect. I would say try shooting for three days on and four off, and you should be fine.

 

4pm? I guess for afternoon studies and exams? I wouldn't expect any insomnia from a 10mg dose at those times, but we all work differently so I can't promise that you won't have any sleep troubles but I seriously doubt it.

[tazzz96]

Yea you should be fine doing that, I don't think noopept takes too long to build up and take effect. I would say try shooting for three days on and four off, and you should be fine.
 
4pm? I guess for afternoon studies and exams? I wouldn't expect any insomnia from a 10mg dose at those times, but we all work differently so I can't promise that you won't have any sleep troubles but I seriously doubt it.

Okay thanks man. Are there any side effects from continuous use in your experience?

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