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[.fonclea.]

In some contries, i could easily become a vegetarian.... in US or exemple.

Really you americans scared me! How can you have that for lunch ????
I already had some mistrust regarding your fruits and vegetebale, and your beef and......

US-Europe chicken trade dispute seen lingering

CHICAGO, May 28 (Reuters) - A trade dispute over exporting U.S. chicken to Europe is unlikely to be resolved soon even though Brussels has recommended lifting an 11-year ban, U.S. agriculture and chicken industry sources said on Wednesday.
American chicken is banned in Europe because U.S. producers use a chlorine rinse on the product. U.S. sources have argued that Europe uses the chlorine rinse issue as an excuse to protect its industry.The European Union currently buys much of its chicken from Brazil, a country that is expected to fight to keep a large presence in that market.Earlier on Wednesday, the European Commission recommended lifting the ban on U.S. poultry imports, but with some important restrictions.

"The EU issue has a long way to go. We are uncertain at this time what impact, if any, it will have on the domestic industry," said Mike Cockrell, chief financial officer at No. 4 U.S. chicken producer Sanderson Farms Inc.............ect

[william7]

I voted vegan

VEGAN. For the People. For the Planet. For the Animals.

Study Finds Fountain of Youth, Vegan Diet and Exercise

Boston (dbTechno) - U.S. researchers have put out a new study in the journal Lancet Oncology, which gives details into the fountain of youth. The fountain of youth apparently lies in following a lifestyle that includes exercise, and a vegan diet.

A major lifestyle change may be needed if you truly want to find the fountain of youth for yourself.

Researchers were lef by Prof. Dean Ornish of the Preventive Medicine Institute in California.

He worked along with researchers from the University of California, San Francisco to study 24 men with prostate cancer.

The men all had to follow some major lifestyle changes for the study.

Their lifestyle they had to follow included 30 minutes of exercise 6 days a week for starters, as well as an hour of meditation or relaxing every day.

In regards to their diet, they could only get 10% of their calories from fat, had to take vitamin supplements such as fish oil, and consume a diet that was made up of whole foods, fruit, and vegetables.

They found that this was able to increase an enzyme known as telomerase, which protects cells from the effects of aging.

A reduction in telomerase has been linked to an increased risk of disease, and premature death.

By following this lifestyle, those in the study increased their telomerase levels by 29%.

This is the first big step to finding out how to truly slow the aging process.

http://www.dbtechno....t-and-exercise/


Genesis 1:29-31; Daniel 1: 8-16; 10:1-3; Isaiah 11:6-9; Hosea 2:18.

The Christian Vegetarian Association
http://www.all-creat...va/honoring.htm
http://www.all-creat...vegbenefits.htm

[erzebet]

i voted vegetarian because sometimes i eat eggs. i was vegan for some periods and i always failed because of eggs so i decided that once in a while they are ok. in rest i thrive on cereals and vegetables so it is not difficult at all.

[Grail]

As an update, I am now a lacto-ovo vegetarian, for the reasons I introduced on the previous page over a year ago. It's a fairly fluid thing though, If I am not feeling healthy because I know I missed out on some nutrients that I didn't supplement correctly, or I can't supplement because it is logistically impossible at the time, I sometimes eat meat. I know it was my choices that led me to it, and I am aware of the consequences of my actions when I do.

Another part of my rationale is the health aspect. I have come to the conclusion that eating red meat is not a healthy thing to do in the long run.
Yet another rationale is that I don't think I should eat something I would be unwilling or unable to kill and cut up myself. That's just hypocritical in my view.

I am already getting tired of having the ethical debate with friends and family, and pretty much everyone I meet. Like Mitkat, I don't tell other people what they should eat, but if they ask me the ethical considerations of my decision it can sound like I am, which is unintentional. Like Zoolander said, it is just a decision, and I can eat what I want to eat without feeling like a weirdo, and I can change when I want. It is ridiculous for people to feel threatened or upset or outraged that I no longer eat most meat, but it seems to make some people feel that way. Really odd. I was astounded when my brother said it actually pissed him off when I told him, and he instantly wanted to enter a thorough debate on the matter.
I'm simply at a loss as to how my decision can actually make others feel uncomfortable or threatened. Any ideas?

[niner]

I am already getting tired of having the ethical debate with friends and family, and pretty much everyone I meet. Like Mitkat, I don't tell other people what they should eat, but if they ask me the ethical considerations of my decision it can sound like I am, which is unintentional. Like Zoolander said, it is just a decision, and I can eat what I want to eat without feeling like a weirdo, and I can change when I want. It is ridiculous for people to feel threatened or upset or outraged that I no longer eat most meat, but it seems to make some people feel that way. Really odd. I was astounded when my brother said it actually pissed him off when I told him, and he instantly wanted to enter a thorough debate on the matter.
I'm simply at a loss as to how my decision can actually make others feel uncomfortable or threatened. Any ideas?

Funny that people would be hostile. I guess they feel threatened; in the back of their mind they have ethical qualms, and now you are confirming that they are doing the wrong thing. That makes them feel bad, so they get angry. This reminds me of the people in the US who say that gay marriage is a "threat" to heterosexual marriage, yet none can ever explain what the "threat" is, exactly. It's not the same thing but it's similar in its illogic.

Like you, I've often wondered how many people would eat meat if they had to kill and butcher it themselves. If the past is any guide, people would be inculcated at an early age, and it would stop very few people. However, if you handed the average grocery shopper a knife and a live chicken today, if would be pretty comical.

[gregandbeaker]

I am already getting tired of having the ethical debate with friends and family, and pretty much everyone I meet. Like Mitkat, I don't tell other people what they should eat, but if they ask me the ethical considerations of my decision it can sound like I am, which is unintentional. Like Zoolander said, it is just a decision, and I can eat what I want to eat without feeling like a weirdo, and I can change when I want. It is ridiculous for people to feel threatened or upset or outraged that I no longer eat most meat, but it seems to make some people feel that way. Really odd. I was astounded when my brother said it actually pissed him off when I told him, and he instantly wanted to enter a thorough debate on the matter.
I'm simply at a loss as to how my decision can actually make others feel uncomfortable or threatened. Any ideas?

The debate is absolutely boring unless you are in the business of changing other people's minds and habits. This morning at the convenience store the girl handing out free samples of orange juice and breakfast sandwiches was astounded that I didn't want any. The last thing I wanted to do at six am was start explaining why I don't eat grains or drink fruit juice. "Just eat the meat and cheese then!" she said. Whatever that greasy little patty and rubbery looking square orange thing on top of it was, I definitely wouldn't consider meat and cheese. No way to win, let me buy my coffee and leave please :-) People are perhaps concerned that you may know something they don't, or they have such a religious attitude about their food that they take your position as an affront to their own, or a challenge. We seem to live in world where living by your own set of ethics is unacceptable to large majority of the population. Go mainstream or get voted off the island :-) Group psychology is probably far more in play than dietary considerations in these arguments.