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[Kraser]

Hello,

So for the past month and a bit I've been experimenting with a couple nootropics and I've noticed something strange with my heart rate while working out. I've tried Piracetam, Oxiracetam, Phenylpiracetam and Noopept (I know it's not technically a racetam). All of them except maybe Piracetam I've noticed that it is harder to keep my heartrate up while working out (running, cycling). Usually I keep my heart rate at around 160 (~80%) but does go up to 170 once in a while for most of the workout. Since starting to try out some nootropics, my heart rate during is hard to get above 150 (~75%). But based on 'feel' (so probably bullshit) it seems to be just as hard on me and the same effort being put in as in I don't feel like I can do more/push harder. It might just be a coincidence but I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

 

Thanks for any help!.

 

I should mention that around the same time I started taking omega 3/ fish oil, vitamin B complex, vitamin D3, vitamin K2 daily. It might even be those but I've taken omega 3 before and this hasn't happened.
As a note: my resting heart rate has increased when I take Oxiracetam, Phenylpiracetam and a little with Noopept. Before it was usually (~58bpm) give or take a bit due to varying circumstances, but on them it goes to (~65-75bpm). But that is probably due to the stimulating nature of them. I think.

 

Also, I've tried a few other nootropics as well but have not used them daily as I want to know how they affect me. But without them, I still have this effect.

[ron45]

 For what ever it's worth. Some people in the medical profession profess …. sorry, that we can expect to spend a fixed number of heart beats over the span of our life. 

 

When you are 20, it's live fast! love hard! die young! and leave a beautiful memory! Sounds sort of glamorous doesn't it? When I was 20 I could not imagine 45 or 50. But when you get there and beyond you have the sense, at least I do, that it's just starting to get good. Animals with lower heart rates live longer. I didn't make this up.

 

It is possible to exercise in a manor that allows progressive accomplishment AND keep your heart rate at an impossibly low number IIRC when I was 50 something that number was 120 or 122 for pedaling a mt. bike up a medium long grade out of our valley. There was a formula in which your age was one of the factors in determining your personal rate.

 

This all came from a triathlete who was also a chiropractor and a meditator. The whole point was never exceed your blood/lactate threshold. That formula was designed by some Ayur Vedic physians and this guy in India, with that in mind. You develop your capacity below the B/L threshold. There is a wall. 14 miles in running. The guy claimed you could run a 10k several times a week and never get sore and feel great. I think it was a set of tapes called Invincible Athletics. I did it for a few months and was pretty amazed with the results. However it's pretty much a way of life not just an exercise program. So YMMV.

 

Ron