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#1 cesium

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 09:04 AM


LOS ANGELES, Aug. 29-Severe caloric restriction may significantly extend the lives of mice and other small critters, but a starvation diet won't produce a similar payoff for bigger animals, like human beings, a study here suggests.

"Primates are not simply big rodents," evolutionary biologists wrote in the August issue of Aging Research Reviews.

A lifetime of reduced caloric intake, consuming on average about 1,500 calories per day, would result in only a 7% extension in human lifespan, according to a mathematical model.

The tradeoff is small, and it can come at a price, reported John Phelan, Ph.D., of the University of California at Los Angeles and Michael R. Rose, Ph.D., of the University of California at Irvine.

"To undergo decades of caloric restriction, suffering chronically reduced fertility and increased hunger, for the sake of a much smaller proportionate increased in longevity than is seen in rodents seems unappealing and ill-advised," they wrote. "Caloric restriction is unlikely to be a panacea for human aging."

Caloric restriction became something of a fringe fad after research showed severe dieting extended the lives of rodents, fish, cockroaches, ticks, water fleas, spiders, mollusks and protozoa.

For example, organizations such as the California-based Caloric Restriction Society advocate that caloric restriction could help humans exceed estimated life expectancies.

But Drs. Phelan and Rose emphasized that the primate model is quite different from that of a mouse.

According to the researchers' mathematical model, consuming only 1,500 calories a day led to a 7% longer life for humans, whereas comparable caloric restriction in rodents resulted in 67.5% longer life, or 10 times that of the benefit to humans, the investigators wrote.

Although there is evidence in animal models indicating caloric restriction works, there is no proof this could be true in humans. "Longevity is not a trait that exists in a vacuum," the researchers cautioned. Starvation may help extend the lives of rodents because it reduces fertility, the investigators explained, thereby reducing the biological stress of countless matings and pregnancies. Humans reproduce more slowly, and caloric restriction may not have as pronounced an effect in people, they said.

To demonstrate that the benefit of caloric restriction would be minimal in humans, Drs. Phelan and Rose used a mathematical model.

First, they noted that in Japan, the average male adult consumes about 2,300 calories per day and lives to be on average 76.7 years. This population fell in the middle of a longevity and caloric intake spectrum.

Then they looked at either side of the spectrum. On one side were males living on the island of Okinawa, an area where residents are known for their simple diet and longevity. The researchers estimated male Okinawans consumed about 17% less than the average Japanese male, yet the average age for an Okinawan male was 77.5 years.

On the opposite side of the spectrum were Japan's Sumo wrestlers, who consume about 5,500 calories per day and live to be about 56 years old.

If both the Okinawans and Sumo wrestlers cut their caloric intake to 1,500 calories per day, "the best possible mean human life spans obtainable from caloric restriction are 81.9 years (for the Okinawans) and 78.3 years (for the Sumo)," Drs. Phelan and Rose wrote.

When looking at just the Sumo wrestlers, who appeared to have the greatest potential benefit, the maximum extension in life span came only to 7%.

However, when applying comparable caloric restrictions to mice models, this added up to be a 67.5% benefit in extending lifespan.

Thus, this analysis predicts an "approximately 10 times greater effect of caloric restriction on rodent longevity than on human longevity," the researchers concluded.

"If our quantitative analysis is to be taken at face value," the researchers concluded, "the quantitative benefit to humans from caloric restriction is going to be small."

http://www.medpageto...trition/tb/1626

Why dietary restriction substantially increases longevity in animal models but won’t in humans

Caloric restriction (CR) extends maximum longevity and slows aging in mice, rats, and numerous non-mammalian taxa. The apparent generality of the longevity-increasing effects of CR has prompted speculation that similar results could be obtained in humans. Longevity, however, is not a trait that exists in a vacuum; it evolves as part of a life history and the physiological mechanisms that determine longevity are undoubtedly complex. Longevity is intertwined with reproduction and there is a cost to reproduction. The impact of this cost on longevity can be age-independent or age-dependent. Given the complexity of the physiology underlying reproductive costs and other mechanisms affecting life history, it is difficult to construct a simple model for the relationship between the particulars of the physiology involved and patterns of mortality. Consequently, we develop a hypothesis-neutral model describing the relationship between diet and longevity. Applying this general model to the special case of human longevity and diet indicates that the benefits of caloric restriction in humans would be quantitatively small.

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#2 Set

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 09:19 AM

"To undergo decades of caloric restriction, suffering chronically reduced fertility and increased hunger, for the sake of a much smaller proportionate increased in longevity than is seen in rodents seems unappealing and ill-advised," they wrote. "Caloric restriction is unlikely to be a panacea for human aging."



Increased hunger? I think not. Maybe these people should try and understand what CR is before they open their mouths. As far as I understood it, you decrease your bodyweight along with diet so that you sustain a certain bodyweight.
This way you are only hungry enough to sustain that certain body weight.
You are going to have a lot of fatties and non-diet activist’s try and refute this but I saw no evidence in this article except people talking about past trends. Personally I can pick and choose from a ton of trends to make my study look correct.


Although there is evidence in animal models indicating caloric restriction works, there is no proof this could be true in humans. "Longevity is not a trait that exists in a vacuum," the researchers cautioned. Starvation may help extend the lives of rodents because it reduces fertility, the investigators explained, thereby reducing the biological stress of countless matings and pregnancies. Humans reproduce more slowly, and caloric restriction may not have as pronounced an effect in people, they said.



There is no starvation; this is obviously a biased article. I could go on forever but I've seen enough falsehoods to wrap this one up. People don’t want to manage their own weight this is psychology 101.

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 10:25 AM

Maybe these people should try and understand what CR is before they open their mouths.


Can we stop with the rhetoric please? There is no need to get so defensive. Michael Rose is a respected scientist and leading aging researcher.

I believe people should feel free to practice caloric restriction if they so choose. And I also believe that keeping one's calorie intake in check is a good thing. But -- But, I do not believe that caloric restriction will extend human life expectancy by more than a couple of years.

There is a strong evolutionary rationale for maintaining this position. De Grey makes the case in this article --> The Unfortunate Influence of the Weather on the Rate of Aging

What is your evolutionary rationale for caloric restriction resulting in 30+% increases in life expectancy? I am truly curious, so please state your case. As it is, without legitimate empirical evidence the only thing CR advocates have to base their arguments on is evolutionary theory.

#4 LifeMirage

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 11:38 AM

A lifetime of reduced caloric intake, consuming on average about 1,500 calories per day, would result in only a 7% extension in human lifespan, according to a mathematical model.


They seem to forget to mention the percent of reduction of several age related disorders and diseases....

#5 scottl

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 11:47 AM

They seem to forget to mention the percent of reduction of several age related disorders and diseases....


OK--but how many of those reductions could be produced by eating intelligently (i.e. low glycemic, etc) without CR, or said another way what is the incremental value of CR over a non-CR diet done well?

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 12:37 PM

Heh, de Grey's case is not as strong as it may seem, since he uses weather influences, which in lower organisms like mice, yeast, flies, etc., affects generations. Some generations get good weather, some don't. In some of the shorter-lived of these groups, e.g. insects, worms, etc., weather may even influence multiple generations negatively, and then many generations positively.

For primates of 40-50–year lifespans (which is about all that's relevant for humans, since longer lifespans than this are a recent addition, and losses of CR machinery that rapidly would be unlikely), the effect could appear multiple times for a single organism, perhaps over extended portions of that organism's lifespan, and perhaps not at all. More importantly, multiple benefits of 1-2 years could be useful, depending on the frequency and duration of weather influences (assuming those are even the only influences that matter), allowing the effect to be pushed up to several years, perhaps five or more. One might call this The Fortunate Effect of the Rate of Aging on the Unfortunate Effect of Weather on the Rate of Aging.

And at any rate, the effects would seem to be relative, not absolute (what sort of radical shift in metabolism in humans would we expect to only have an affect of 0.5% on lifespan?). That the effects are less in humans would seem to be a result of a lessening not of the effect relative to the cause (genetic shifts, metabolism changes), but a lessening of the causes themselves. (It's actually probably a combination.) Otherwise, we'd be expecting the genetics of calorie restriction to have to work at least as hard in humans to get even the same absolute gains, i.e. months over a lifespan of ~85 years, and hence we'd expect more sophisticated CR mechanisms in humans, when de Grey's own analysis shows that the more sophisticated mechanisms are in the shorter-lived species (dauer, spores, etc.).

The rapid increase in lifespan in humans in the recent past indicates that we could probably expect roughly equivalent relative gains compared with shorter-lived primates, and hence substantially better absolute gains. And primates themselves should expect significantly better absolute gains, even if significantly reduced relative gains, compared to mice. Seven years sounds a lot closer to a practically defensible figure than either 1-2 years or 30-40 years. Is it any wonder that it's roughly the geometric mean, indicating a roughly equal effect on absolute and relative lifespan extension?




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