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Arguments for or against the existence of god do not make sense

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#61 cats_lover

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:29 PM

 

 

What are you doing about it? What are you going to do about it? Nothing. What is God going to do about it? No use talking to you about that. It must be ok for non theists because that's nature.

And he wouldn't stop it happening to your children either

He'd just sit in the corner watching them being sadistically raped, watching the fear in their eyes and the terror on their faces as they grimace and writhe in pain.

He'll sit there watching as the rapists leaves and offer no condolences or comfort.

He'll sit there and expect to be worshipped by that child and be given unconditional love by that child.

He'll sit there and not answer the prayers of that child for that rapist to not return another time.

God is a dirty pedo pervert and loves watching children being raped.

How many children around the world tonight will be raped and sexually abused while an all knowing god sits and watches???

Tomorrow night???

The night after???

It must be how god gets off ?

 

 

Why you're always talking about child sexual abuse!!?? Please go to psychologist
 



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Posted 25 May 2015 - 12:05 AM

Why are christians so heavily involved in sexual abuse with children?

Don't like it?

Nor do I

What's your god doing about it ???

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 02:41 AM

Christians in fact they are doing far more about it than any other group but I suspect you don't care about facts. All you are interested in is calling people names.  Not interested.



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Posted 25 May 2015 - 03:57 AM

Show me what they are doing ??

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:48 AM

Hurry up !!!

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:11 PM

What a joke.  :)



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#67 The Brain

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:31 PM

So nothing then, can you show me literature or how about one of your famous you tube links or a website which shows what christians are doing to combat or raise awareness amongst their own about the issue of child sex abuse?
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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:39 PM

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the children to come forward if they were the victims of sexual abuse ?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the sexual abusers in their midst to come forward to stop the suffering of children?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to them to join him in prayer with god and ask for an end to the suffering of children at the hands of child sex abusers ?

When was the last time you saw christians with placards protesting against child sex abusers for their sins?
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#69 The Brain

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 06:09 AM

Anyone want to answer ?

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:06 PM

So nothing then, can you show me literature or how about one of your famous you tube links or a website which shows what christians are doing to combat or raise awareness amongst their own about the issue of child sex
 

Google it.



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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:11 PM

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the children to come forward if they were the victims of sexual abuse ?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the sexual abusers in their midst to come forward to stop the suffering of children?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to them to join him in prayer with god and ask for an end to the suffering of children at the hands of child sex abusers ?

When was the last time you saw christians with placards protesting against child sex abusers for their sins?

 

What  a nut.  I am tempted in answering him but I would be arguing with a bigot.
 



#72 The Brain

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 09:20 PM

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the children to come forward if they were the victims of sexual abuse ?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to the sexual abusers in their midst to come forward to stop the suffering of children?

When was the last time you heard of a christian church leader stand before their congregation and appeal to them to join him in prayer with god and ask for an end to the suffering of children at the hands of child sex abusers ?

When was the last time you saw christians with placards protesting against child sex abusers for their sins?



Can anyone answer these questions ???

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 09:30 PM

Christians are too interested in what consenting adults are doing in their bedrooms to worry about what their brothers, uncles, fathers, grandfathers, friends are doing sneaking into children's rooms at night.

 

 

And their god is too busy watching.



#74 Dakman

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 09:41 PM

 

So nothing then, can you show me literature or how about one of your famous you tube links or a website which shows what christians are doing to combat or raise awareness amongst their own about the issue of child sex
 

Google it.

 

A Google search of the phrase "What are christians doing about child sex abuse?" results in very disappointing links of no real answers, only many, many, many, links about the problem being prevalent amongst christanity.



#75 shadowhawk

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 01:12 AM

Christians are too interested in what consenting adults are doing in their bedrooms to worry about what their brothers, uncles, fathers, grandfathers, friends are doing sneaking into children's rooms at night.

 

 

And their god is too busy watching.

What childish nonsense.  I suppose you think this is an argument.

 



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Posted 27 May 2015 - 11:25 AM

 

 

So nothing then, can you show me literature or how about one of your famous you tube links or a website which shows what christians are doing to combat or raise awareness amongst their own about the issue of child sex
 

Google it.

 

A Google search of the phrase "What are christians doing about child sex abuse?" results in very disappointing links of no real answers, only many, many, many, links about the problem being prevalent amongst christanity.

 

No response to this ?



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Posted 27 May 2015 - 07:49 PM

Christianity believes and teaches that certain ethics apply to sexual behavior as well as other kinds of behavior.  We are not the only ones that believe this.  Rape, Child molestation. adultery, fornication, necrophilia, bestiality, pornography, are a few sexual sins  but there are other kinds of sins as well.  Those who want to point out there are some who do not follow the Christian teaching who Call themselves Christians will not find it hard to do so.  After all Christianity is the largest religion in the world, far larger than any single country.  Do you think there are sexual deviants in a country as large as the United States.  Are we for Child Molestation?  No and you can be punished for it.  In the posts above you will discover that Christianity's detractors agree with us, there are sexual sins but they have a hard time finding a basis for their morality.  But then that is not their real purpose because they want to mock Christians because there are a few molesters among them.  They don't want to also point out there are molesters among themselves as well.  So this is not a discussion about the evils of Child molestation but bigotry against Christians that does not deserve a response.  Any honest person knows Christianity condemns Child Abuse.



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Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:05 PM

You haven't addressed my question, you've avoided it by stating what you believe is christianity's position.

I asked what is christianity is DOING to stop child sexual abuse, among it's members ???

With revelations in modern times of the extent of cover ups of church groups of historical sexual abuse there is an obvious dislike by christians to confront their sexual abuse problem.

christianity's reaction to the sexual abuse of its children from its members is truly disgusting and abhorrent.

Shame on your religion.
Shame on your spiritual leaders.

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:26 PM

Shame on your bigotry.



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Posted 27 May 2015 - 10:07 PM

Shame on your avoidance,christian. :sad:



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Posted 27 May 2015 - 10:19 PM

Christians are most often involved in sex abuse that other religious people or atheists, true or false, i dont know, i know that catolic church has had serious trouble for this...

 

Anyway, this proves or disproves existence of God?



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 03:18 AM

Of course it does not disprove the existence of God.  You are far more likely to be molested by a school teacher than a priest but these guys are only interested in bashing Christians than the truth.  So what do you think about the Catholic work for trafficked children which is unsurpassed by anything and no, I am not a Catholic.



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 03:56 AM

Can you show me some statistics for that claim please ?
Oh, and by the way, are those catholics trafficking children for themselves again ???

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 04:48 AM

Google it



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:01 AM

Most of those teachers are christian are they ???

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 11:20 AM

Google it

You're still avoiding his question regarding what christians are doing?

 

You also avoided the question about if you prayed to your god to stop the sexual abuse of children.

 

Do you think your god would?

 

If not, why not?

 

Does your god hate children that much, even little babies he won't stop being molested  :sad:



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:21 PM

God in the Christian view values respects allows and created free will in man.  We get to choose and He does not keep us from doing so.  If He did we would not have free will.  That this fits reality with its limited determinism is obvious.  One aspect of free choice is we  get to choose what is against the ethics God has revealed to us.  It is against Gods ethics to molest children and God does not turn us into robots without a choice to prevent us from doing so.  That being said, we are accountable for our choices and we will be judged for them with consequences,  We also get to choose to follow God and not molest children.  We can help poor victims of child abuse and there is no group of people on the earth who has helped children as much as the church.  Google Christian Orphanages, schools, charity, and abuse compared to other groups in society,



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:17 PM

Once again, have you prayed to your god to stop the sexual abuse of children  :sad:

 

 


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:21 PM

If christians really wanted to help the victims of sexual predators then perhaps they should stop fucking raping them.

Dirty creepy christians, sitting in church, eyeing up the children of other christians with filth on their mind.

Clean up the mess in your own backyard first christians.
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:40 PM

Once again, have you prayed to your god to stop the sexual abuse of children  :sad:

 

I pray for abused children all the time.  I personally have done much to help abused children which is private.  I have even punched out abusers of Children, but you are not interested in that are  you.  You want to mock what you are ignorant of.
 







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