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[Zakariah]

Hey everyone!

 

For a while I drank coffee (my whole life) until I started having a bad burning stomach. Then I started taking caffeine pills and my stomach was just as bad.

 

When I drink alcohol i'm perfectly fine. The only thing that hits me is caffeine.

 

Now, my question for you smarty pants:

 

What can I take to lower the acid building side effect of caffeine without compromising myself in another fashion?

 

Example, I heard "take antacids". But these lead to other nasty side effects in the long term.

 

Some things that caught my attention so far:

 

I already take gotu kola (supposedly it helps with gastrointestinal problems) - I take it mainly for other reasons

 

Maybe adding roasted chicory to my coffee brews? Or coconut oil?

 

Drop me some knowledge!

[sthira]

Wait, I thought ulcers are thought to be generally caused by bacterial infections? Like Helicobacter pylori?

[Zakariah]

Hey! Sorry for the really late response -_- ..

 

H. Pylori is definitely the #1 contender of stomach ulcers (leading to most cases) but that being said, it's due to irritation of the stomach lining / duodenum.. H. pylori releases toxins that break through the stomach's protective mucus lining and it along with the acid rip into the lining and cause an ulcer.

 

After much research, I found a couple different items that are suspected to heal/defend the stomach lining... 

 

 

Deriving the idea that gelatin promotes healing in the stomach lining, I looked into it's different constituents and found:

A. Glycine: Protects against gastric ulcers AND has shown to kill off H. Pylori 

         

Study showing effectiveness of glycine on gastric ulcers

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Death curve of H. Pylori w/ glycine

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Other items:

 

2. N-Acytl Glucosamine: Repairs the mucosal membranes, creating better protective mucous lining for the stomach

       

 

3. Cabbage juice:

Link explaining how 13 patients with ulcers were healed by drinking cabbage juice

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4. Colostrum:

Helps repair your mucosal membranes - improving on a mucous lining that may be lacking and causing the stomach irritation.

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After researching this whole thing, I found a great post that someone put up for digestive health.. Check it out if you're interested!

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So... In the end, if you feel bad burning sensations coming from your stomach lining, you should probably get tested for H. Pylori. If you do have it, that link above tells you how you can get rid of it.. If you do not have it, then you probably have an issue with the mucosal lining. Make sure that you are not taking anything that compromises it (such as NAC, N- acetyl cysteine) and then go ahead and try things such as glycine, cabbage juice, colostrum, and N-acytl glucosamine in order to repair the torn tissue and the mucosal lining.

 

 

If anyone has anything else that can heal the mucosal lining / possibly heal damage to the mucosal membrane.

Edited by Zakariah, 04 January 2016 - 05:59 PM.

[FunkOdyssey]

Zinc-carnosine (PepZin GI) and BPC-157.

[Zakariah]

@FunkOdyssey:  Thanks for the two different supplements!

 

 I did some research on  BPC-157 and:

 

- 1 source said that it increases the growth of vessels throughout the body, so places that do not normally get much nutrients (from nutrient diffusion of the blood in the vessels) get an increase in nutrients, since blood vessels are grown into their tissue (when normally it wouldn't have). - This can help with gastrointestinal issues because it can increase nutrient flow to the gastrointestinal region and heal the area. 

    

- A bunch of people using this supplement to heal from many different physical injuries (like rotator cuff injury, torn meniscus, etc,)

 

My question about this stuff is: If I'm going to use it as a supplement for gastrointestinal healing, I would like to take it orally.. Some sources said that it can be taken orally and it works just as effectively... I may research this a bit more to find out if it can be done before I give it a go!

 

Zinc-carnosine (PepZin GI) : 

 

- Great reviews on amazon. 5/5 with a bunch of people speaking about how well it helped their gastritis.

 

 - What it does: It increases the stomach mucosal lining (protective layer against the stomach acid), it maintains the normal amount of stomach acid (doesn't effect stomach acid.. So you can still properly digest your food), it 'modulates' H. Pylori growth (so they are kept at a level where they aren't going to tear holes through your skin and cause ulcers) and serves as an antioxidant (when acid does smack your skin, it is less damaged b/c it neutralizes the reaction)

     

This reference explains how it does all of those aforementioned things

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Update on what i've been doing:

- So far, last night was my second night taking glycine (taking it for sleeping benefits and for the possible benefits for gastrointestinal issues that I listed above) .. It has only been 2 days, just keep posted if you're interested in its efficacy - What I can say is that I haven't been waking up with burning stomach (usually indirectly due to caffeine intake)

- I've also been taking gotu kola and at this point, I would not recommend it as a way to treat gastritis.

[Zakariah]

Okay, so just a heads-up... I tried the Zinc-carnosine and it did not work for me...

 

But for the people that are struggling with downing their cup of coffee because of fear of imminent doom, here's my solution (that works for me):

 

Mix 2/3 milk to coffee ratio and viola. The milk increases the pH (the acidity is what I'm pretty sure was causing my body distress)... something ohh soo simply.

[BADLUCK]

How did the Glycine go?

And for how long did you try the pepzin gi,. you are supposed to take a few months at least.

Did you found the glycine was helpful, i am thinking about trying it for the antibacterial and for the healing properties..

[brendan1]

Cissus Quadrangularis, L-Glutamine.