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[Peatson]

Hello everyone,

 

Just wondering what are your thoughts on L-Cysteine for hair growth and the same for Saw Palmetto? I've heard both are effective but what has the least side effects? and what are other proven benefits of these from what you have noticed? Thanks.

[aconita]

They work on very different levels, L-Cysteine is very unlikely to need supplementing if a good healthy nutrition plan is applied since it is very common and abundant in many foods, it represent a substrate for keratin formation and for glutathione production.

 

Saw palmetto has the ability to block an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the latter of which is a more androgenic form and can cause hairloss in the genetically susceptible.

 

Saw palmetto may effect prostate growth as well.

 

Sting nettle root, pigeum bark and other plants are very similar to saw palmetto in their action and eventually may work in synergy.

 

They do work when applied topically too.

[Adam Karlovsky]

And if you're interested in longevity and increasing healthspan via methionine restriction, you don't want to ruin that by adding cysteine

Edited by Adam Karlovsky, 25 January 2016 - 05:02 AM.

[Peatson]

They work on very different levels, L-Cysteine is very unlikely to need supplementing if a good healthy nutrition plan is applied since it is very common and abundant in many foods, it represent a substrate for keratin formation and for glutathione production.

 

Saw palmetto has the ability to block an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the latter of which is a more androgenic form and can cause hairloss in the genetically susceptible.

 

Saw palmetto may effect prostate growth as well.

 

Sting nettle root, pigeum bark and other plants are very similar to saw palmetto in their action and eventually may work in synergy.

 

They do work when applied topically too.

 

 

And if you're interested in longevity and increasing healthspan via methionine restriction, you don't want to ruin that by adding cysteine

 

Thank you aconita for this detailed information. When you say may effect prostate growth, you mean in a good way - as in it decreases growth?. I do also have a small epipdymal cyst, will this be good for testicular health?

 

Also Karlovsky, Saw Palmetto has less side effects than L Cysteine then? Currently I am taking L-arginine, Tumeric and P-5-P.

[niner]

 

They work on very different levels, L-Cysteine is very unlikely to need supplementing if a good healthy nutrition plan is applied since it is very common and abundant in many foods, it represent a substrate for keratin formation and for glutathione production.

 

Saw palmetto has the ability to block an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the latter of which is a more androgenic form and can cause hairloss in the genetically susceptible.

 

Saw palmetto may effect prostate growth as well.

 

Sting nettle root, pigeum bark and other plants are very similar to saw palmetto in their action and eventually may work in synergy.

 

They do work when applied topically too.

 

 

And if you're interested in longevity and increasing healthspan via methionine restriction, you don't want to ruin that by adding cysteine

 

Thank you aconita for this detailed information. When you say may effect prostate growth, you mean in a good way - as in it decreases growth?. I do also have a small epipdymal cyst, will this be good for testicular health?

 

Also Karlovsky, Saw Palmetto has less side effects than L Cysteine then? Currently I am taking L-arginine, Tumeric and P-5-P.

 

I'm not Adam Karlovsky, but I think you would notice more side effects from Saw Palmetto than cysteine, to the extent that Saw Palmetto is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor like finasteride.  Finasteride can cause semi-permanent if not permanent sexual dysfunction.   It would be safer to use a 5-aR inhibitor topically, if possible.  The only side effect you're likely to see with cysteine is that it would subvert the effect of methionine restriction.   I'm not aware that cysteine actually does anything for hair growth, assuming you don't have some sort of crazy diet that's deficient in cys.  Have you checked out the various hairloss sites?

[aconita]

Hairloss anyway is a tricky subject, first you have to determine what the cause is and the goal (prevention, regrowth, thickness, patches, hairline, etc...).

[Peatson]

 

 

They work on very different levels, L-Cysteine is very unlikely to need supplementing if a good healthy nutrition plan is applied since it is very common and abundant in many foods, it represent a substrate for keratin formation and for glutathione production.

 

Saw palmetto has the ability to block an enzyme that converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the latter of which is a more androgenic form and can cause hairloss in the genetically susceptible.

 

Saw palmetto may effect prostate growth as well.

 

Sting nettle root, pigeum bark and other plants are very similar to saw palmetto in their action and eventually may work in synergy.

 

They do work when applied topically too.

 

 

And if you're interested in longevity and increasing healthspan via methionine restriction, you don't want to ruin that by adding cysteine

 

Thank you aconita for this detailed information. When you say may effect prostate growth, you mean in a good way - as in it decreases growth?. I do also have a small epipdymal cyst, will this be good for testicular health?

 

Also Karlovsky, Saw Palmetto has less side effects than L Cysteine then? Currently I am taking L-arginine, Tumeric and P-5-P.

 

I'm not Adam Karlovsky, but I think you would notice more side effects from Saw Palmetto than cysteine, to the extent that Saw Palmetto is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor like finasteride.  Finasteride can cause semi-permanent if not permanent sexual dysfunction.   It would be safer to use a 5-aR inhibitor topically, if possible.  The only side effect you're likely to see with cysteine is that it would subvert the effect of methionine restriction.   I'm not aware that cysteine actually does anything for hair growth, assuming you don't have some sort of crazy diet that's deficient in cys.  Have you checked out the various hairloss sites?

 

 

Thanks for the info - Hmm so do you think I should just simply increase my dose of L-arginine? I know that's good for strengthening hair.

[aconita]

Without knowing the issue/goal it is difficult to answer.