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[ambivalent]

"It's one of the first 3, and some reason I doubt its the 3rd supplement for the eyes." 

 

Don't rule out lutein!

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC8223987/

 

"Three intervention studies using MRI indicated that 10 mg lutein intake over 12 months had a positive impact on healthy older adults’ brain activities during learning, resting-state connectivity, and gray matter volumes. Four cross-sectional studies using MRI suggested that lutein was positively associated with brain structure and neural efficiency during cognitive tasks. Conclusion: Although only nine studies that used similar datasets were reviewed, this systematic review indicates that lutein has beneficial effects on healthy older adults’ brain health."

 

Also may protect dopamine cells:

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/25730317/

 

How much lutein are you taking?

[Mr Serendipity]

https://www.higherna...eyes/visualeyes

 

12mg Lutein.

 

I dropped the astaxanthin because the DHT blocking effect killed my libido.

 

 

 

[mbdrinker]

I suspect vit c is no longer sold to general public. I used 4 50mg tablets to make a drop of mb colorless. Now even 20 tablets don't make it colorless. Vit c is fake in Russia. I bet it's the same abroad. 

[pamojja]

I suspect vit c is no longer sold to general public. I used 4 50mg tablets to make a drop of mb colorless. Now even 20 tablets don't make it colorless. Vit c is fake in Russia. I bet it's the same abroad. 

 

In Europe (Germanspeaking) you get 100g Powder bottles in Supermarkets. This year raised its price from €1.95
(since I begun to use in 2009) €2.25. It still makes Lugols solution colorless. So still available here. I never used it in tablet form, since I took 25 g/d all these years.
 

[mbdrinker]

You are lucky. I now buy only citrus fruits for vitc on the food market. In this case i am at least sure to get some real vitc here.

[Mr Serendipity]

I swear there's nothing like higher doses of Vitamin C. I keep coming back to it.

 

I regularly take 1.5g daily. 1g as a pill, the other .5g come from my other supplements with formulas (like multivitamins, eye health etc..).

 

But it is NOT enough for me.

 

I've been taking higher doses the past few days (5g or more), because of a cold, and I've noticed.

 

1. My tongue after anything sugary doesn't feel yuck, and I don't eat much sugar.

2. My brain had a sense of calmness.

3. I was even laughing and some tiktok video yesterday thinking it was hilarious.

 

In fact that's the 3rd time I've confirmed point 1 now. And I went on my own strong course of anti fungal drugs for nearly 2 weeks, and it didn't make a difference. Only vitamin c does, it must have a good enough immune boosting effect to combat this issue.

 

As for the brain calmness, and happiness. Higher doses of vitamin c has done this before, especially with my OCD in the past. But I haven't observed the happiness effect when trying to recreate this again over the years, except when I initially done a vitamin c megadosing back in 2017, and experienced that high and energy levels on day 9 (check Post 20 of this thread). Note this was only 1/10 of that experience, but I've only tried higher doses of vitamin c these past 2-3 days, plus I'm currently ill/got a cold.

 

The major difference in my life recently, was getting my vitamin d levels up. I don't know what they were before, but I did some megadosing, then got tested , and they were 112nmol/L (range 50-120). In fact right now, I think I'm finding vitamin d a problem, with energy levels, sleep quality, and my posture, and yes I supplement with everything else, k2, magnesium, etc... What's funny is increasing vitamin d initially helped with energy levels and sleep. So I've stopped taking the 5k IU for now, and at a later date, may introduce 1k IU back in.

 

In fact I think vitamin d still helps with sleep, not the quality which has gone down with my energy levels recently (hence why I'll stop taking it for now). But the onset. Things like vitamin c megadose (5g), or zinc picolinate in the past would cause me major insomnia, and I couldn't fall asleep. I don't seem to get that much now I don't think going by recent experiences. In other words my onset of sleep has improved.

 

Basically to sum up all of this gibberish, I'm going to experiment with megadosing vitamin c again, and hope that having higher vitamin d levels will fix the insomnia I would get with it previously. Here's me hoping my brain can experience fun/happy/energy times like I did in post 20 again in 2017.

[Mr Serendipity]

I had a few initial emotional highs when upping my vitamin c, and then also brain calmness. However too much Vitamin C causes haemorrhoids/bleeding, I have no idea why. So I've settled on 5g max, technically 4.43g, as in 4 separate 1g vitamin tablets, and the 0.43 from formula supplements.

 

Too much Vitamin D causes acid reflux, fatigue, and worse neck posture, general posture, and feeling hunchbacked, but going down to 1k I.U. isn't enough for my wound healing and allergies issues. I've settled for 4k I.U. This still requires more testing, but so far today I feel alright.

 

 

All feelings to cough, completely wash away, they completely wash away, forever.

All feelings of dry throat, completely wash away, they completely wash away, forever.

All your allergies, completely wash away, they completely wash away, forever.

All thoughts, desires, cravings, and habits, for smoking, completely wash away, they completely wash away, forever.

 

 

I've also been testing my own self hypnosis files/suggestions, to see if I can:

 

• Get rid of the cough reflex.
• Get rid of the dry throat feelings which cause my cough.
• Get rid of my allergies.
• Stop smoking.

 

It's probably not the safest thing to do, especially the cough reflex one, as it might be covering up something more serious (I haven't been able to see an ENT through the NHS), or if I get something stuck in my throat, but I can still cough willingly, so far lol. But I swear it's having an effect on all 4 things, including my allergies. But it's not enough alone, I still need vitamin C and D to help. I've actually added "habits" to my smoking suggestion. Because even though I did lose my cravings for them, I would still buy and smoke them out of habit. Hopefully I've smoked my last one today.

 

I need all these to take effect, because my night time cough prevents me from wearing my apnea mouthpiece and getting good quality sleep. Time will tell, but I was able to wear it all night, despite smoking yesterday.

 

 

[pamojja]

The maximim allowable daily dose was established as 4g per day. I bet upping it will only strain the body to neutralize excessive amount.

 

I've been taking in average 25 g/d for 15 year. Though individual needs cane indeed be completely different, in my case it co-factored in remission otherwise considered non-reversible chronic disease symptoms, only.

 

Generally, high dose vitamin C intake simply isn't studied, therefore anyone can claim any bad effects or being 'neutralized, without any truth to it. However, this rare single study does point to possible healthy effects, only accomplished at many gram doses: http://www.longecity...156#entry797721

 

 

The oldest man from movie was 146 years old in 1949. Do you think supplements can replace clean water and natural food?

 

I think justified, some want to remedy the bad effects of bad life-style choices through supplementation. And some really dumb do think it could replace clean water, and other healthier life-style choices. On the other hand of the spectrum: it would be really dumb to not at all remedy some of the ill effects of bad life-style choices - which many are simply unable to let go of - with targeted supplementation.

 

But more rationale, supplementation is what it means. Supplementing a clean diet, not replacing it.

 

I know many very old people who smoked and drunk like mad their whole life, and got to a healthy age. Others with clean diet died young and ill. Both are certainly not the majority. But such exceptions do exist, too.

 

To claim it's fraud by some such exceptions - despite clean diet and high dose vitamin C - is silly.

Edited by pamojja, 14 May 2024 - 02:21 PM.

[Mr Serendipity]

Started up this experiment again. Been maybe about a week. Mind feels super clear today.

However I adding some other supplements the past couple of days, astaxathine 2mg with blackcurrant extract, and phosphatidylserine. And butyrate about a week ago. And I've been drinking 300g of blueberry smoothie in the morning the past few days, and drinking 1l of coconut water a day.

I've ordered some more supplements, namely astaxathine 12mg, and 1g black seed oil.

But today I do feel super clear, or at least less tiredness. And I actually drank 4 cans of 3.4% 440ml bud light last night for the first time in a long time.

So this experiment isn't isolated, but when I initially started a teaspoon of vitamin c last week, I was very sleep deprived, but fell more functional. Only today it feels like my sleep debt is way more suppressed, or I'm catching up, but still there.

I need to buy some Lutein and Zeaxanthin at some point and add to my stack. I'm all for trying everything to keep my brain outside of brain fog, or keep it antioxidant saturated.

Only issue with teaspoon of vitamin c is bowel tolerance, and very slight hemmorhoids. I'm going to take my vitamin c later in the afternoon, as I worried the bowel tolerance issue will prevent other supplements from my morning stack absorbing due to the faster gastric emptying.

 

Here's my current health plan:

Diet/Other: 

 

1 x 300g blueberry with 1 egg smoothie in the morning (egg helps give fat for other supplements)

1 x tsp of vitamin c in the afternoon (to prevent diarrhoea from effecting other supplements)

1L Coconut Water throughout the day

 

Health Shake:

 

500ml Lactose Free Milk

1 x Scoop of Whey Protein Isolate (no Sucralose)

1 x Scoop of Oats

1tbsp of Collagen Power

1 Banana

 

Morning:

 

Also need to buy: Lutein/Zeaxanthin

 

1 x Astaxanthin (2mg) with Blackcurrant fruit extract 4:1 50mg (using up won’t buy again, will be replaced with 12mg Astaxanthin supplement permanently, drop blackcurrant extract, can’t find a good replacement, use black seed oil instead)

1 x Butyrate

1 x Phosphatidylserine (try it again but take out if low it makes me tired/lowers cortisol too much) 

1 x Super K

1 x California Gold Nutrition, Astaxanthin, Astalif - 12mg (not yet arrived)

1 x NOW Foods, Black Cumin Seed Oil - 1g (not yet arrived)

1 x Vitabiotics Jointace

1 x Multivitamin

1 x Triple Magnesium Complex

1 x Ginger (300mg/5% gingerols)

1 x Vitamin E (200 IU)

1 x Rutin 

1 x Garlic Oil

1 x Gingko Biloba (increase acetylcholine and circulation, 1 doesn’t make me depressed like other choline supps)

1 x Vitamin D 1000 IU (pretty sure my hemmorhoids corrected from mega dosing vit d, not from rutin, so gonna add a smaller dose supp here, plus for immune system)(took out previously with boron due to hypercalcemia symptoms, but now added again without boron)

1 x Vitamin C (1g)

1 x Selenium (200mcg) (once a week)

1 x Starflower Oil (in freezer)

1 x EPA500

 

 

Before bed:

 

1 x ZMA

 

Edited by Mr Serendipity, Today, 12:18 PM.