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#61 Mr Serendipity

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Posted 30 November 2022 - 07:43 PM

Just a quick update. I feel much calmer mentally, my allergies are much less, my appetite is less, I fall asleep faster, I’m remembering a lot of my dreams again, and my mood is subtly on the higher end. I think I’ll be sticking to high doses of vitamin c (6-10g) in my stack for awhile, because 1g doesn’t seem to cut it all the years I’ve been taking it.

 

I do feel lazier, but I’ve felt lazy ever since I added 300mg Phosphatidylserine to my stack. So this along with the omega 3’s and vitamin c I take, is keeping my cortisol on the lower end.

 

To be honest though my stack pretty much has covered everything for awhile, but still my body and brain seems to be falling apart. Body failing to wound heal fast due to fungal skin infections, brain failing to hypomania and ocd. I have a feeling my natural collagen production needs to improve to help these symptoms I’ve been suffering with, thus vitamin c, but that’s just a feeling as everything else in my stack hasn’t solved it.

 

My theory is either the brain needs collagen to be healthy, or the vitamin c I’m taking is being using for collagen in my skin and causing vitamin c deficiency in the brain.

 

Stack (note the only change has been increasing my vitamin c from 1g):

 

Purple:

3 x Magnesium Malate

2 x Multivitamin

2 x DHA-500

1 x Borage Oil (1g)

1 x Phosphatidylserine (300mg)

1 x Lecithin (1360mg)

1 x Taurine (1g)

1 x Glycine (1g)

1 x DLPA (500mg)

 

Yellow:

6-10 x Vitamin C (1g)

2 x Candida Support

1 x Vitamin D (1000 IU)

1 x Vitamin E (400 IU)

1 x Super K (K1 [1.5mg], K2 MK4 [1mg], K2 MK7 [0.1mg])

1 x Molybdenum (150mcg)

1 x Selenium (200mcg)

1 x CoQ10 (100mg)

1 x Pycnogenol (40mg)

1 x Ginger (300mg/5% gingerols)

1 x Gingko Biloba (120mg 50:1 extract, Ginkgo flavone glycosides 24%, Terpene lactones (ginkgolides A, B, C & bilobalides 6%)

1 x NAC (600mg)


 

I’ll try and update in a couple of weeks.



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Posted 30 November 2022 - 10:03 PM

Best info I found on vitamin c and the brain/CNS and also vitamin c and Neurodegenerative diseases, I’m pasting it all below.

 

Does Vitamin C Influence Neurodegenerative Diseases and Psychiatric Disorders?

 

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Nutrients 20179(7), 659;  https://doi.org/10.3390/nu9070659

Received: 15 May 2017 / Revised: 15 June 2017 / Accepted: 21 June 2017 / Published: 27 June 2017

(This article belongs to the Special Issue  Vitamin C in Health and Disease )


Abstract

 

Vitamin C (Vit C) is considered to be a vital antioxidant molecule in the brain. Intracellular Vit C helps maintain integrity and function of several processes in the central nervous system (CNS), including neuronal maturation and differentiation, myelin formation, synthesis of catecholamine, modulation of neurotransmission and antioxidant protection. The importance of Vit C for CNS function has been proven by the fact that targeted deletion of the sodium-vitamin C co-transporter in mice results in widespread cerebral hemorrhage and death on post-natal day one. Since neurological diseases are characterized by increased free radical generation and the highest concentrations of Vit C in the body are found in the brain and neuroendocrine tissues, it is suggested that Vit C may change the course of neurological diseases and display potential therapeutic roles. The aim of this review is to update the current state of knowledge of the role of vitamin C on neurodegenerative diseases including Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, Huntington’s disease, multiple sclerosis and amyotrophic sclerosis, as well as psychiatric disorders including depression, anxiety and schizophrenia. The particular attention is attributed to understanding of the mechanisms underlying possible therapeutic properties of ascorbic acid in the presented disorders.

Keywords:

 vitamin C ;  Alzheimer’s disease ;  Parkinson’s disease ;  Huntington’s disease ;  multiple sclerosis ;  amyotrophic sclerosis ;  depression ;  anxiety ;  schizophrenia


1. Introduction

 

Vitamin C (Vit C, ascorbic acid) belongs to a group of water-soluble vitamins. In organisms, Vit C can exist in two forms: reduced—the exact ascorbic acid (AA) which in physiological pH occurs in its anion form of an ascorbate—and oxidized one—dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), which is a product of two-electron oxidation of AA (Figure 1). In the course of metabolic processes an ascorbate free radical can be produced as a result of one-electron oxidation. This variety may subsequently undergo dismutation forming ascorbate and DHA [1].

Figure 1. Forms of vitamin C occurring in organisms.

Mammalian organisms are generally capable of synthesizing Vit C themselves. However, some species like fruit bats, guinea pigs, other primates and humans are deprived of this ability due to the lack of l-gulono-1,4-lactone oxidase enzyme which is an element of the metabolic pathway responsible for synthesis of ascorbic acid from glucose [1,2]. Moreover, Vit C is not produced by intestinal microflora [3]. The above facts make these organisms strictly dependent on dietary intake. The recommended Vit C daily intake was established as 60 mg with the reservation that in smokers this value should be increased up to 140 mg [4]. According to the later recommendations, Vit C consumption should be 75 (women) and 90 (men) mg per day, whereas in smokers this value ought to be increased by 35 mg per day [3,5,6].

Vit C is a nutrient of greatest importance for proper functioning of nervous system and its main role in the brain is its participation in the antioxidant defense. Apart from this role, it is involved in numerous non-oxidant processes like biosynthesis of collagen, carnitine, tyrosine and peptide hormones as well as of myelin. It plays the crucial role in neurotransmission and neuronal maturation and functions [7]. For instance, its ability to alleviate seizure severity as well as reduction of seizure-induced damage have been proved [8,9]. On the other hand, disruption of vitamin C transport has been shown to contribute to brain damage in premature infants [10]. Furthermore, Vit C treatment has been reported to ameliorate neuropathological alterations as well as memory impairments and the neurodegenerative changes in rats exposed to neurotoxic substances like aluminum or colchicine [11,12].

Consequently, the growing interest in the issue of vitamin C deficiency, as well as vitamin C treatment in the nervous system diseases, was observed for many years. These facts made us decide to update the current state of knowledge of the role of Vit C in neurodegenerative diseases including Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, Huntington’s disease, multiple sclerosis as well as amyotrophic sclerosis, as well as in psychiatric disorders including depression, anxiety disorders and schizophrenia.

 

2. Methods

 

To review the literature on brain Vit C transport/distribution and its function in central nervous system, PubMed and Scopus databases were searched using the following search terms: (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND (central nervous system OR CNS) or (vitamin OR ascorbic acid) AND brain, separately.

To review the literature on the role of Vit C in neurodegenerative diseases and psychiatric disorders, PubMed and Scopus databases were searched using the following search terms: (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND Alzheimer, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND Parkinson, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND Huntington, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND multiple sclerosis, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND amyotrophic sclerosis, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND depression, (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND anxiety and (vitamin C OR ascorbic acid) AND schizophrenia, separately. The searching was limited to the last 10 years and human studies, but if none or a few human studies were found the criteria were expanded then to include in vitro or animal studies.

The final search was conducted in April 2017. The titles and abstracts of the articles identified through the initial search were reviewed, and the irrelevant articles were excluded. The full texts of the remaining articles were reviewed to detect studies that did were not suitable for this review.

 

3. Vitamin C Transport Systems and Distribution in the Brain

 

Two basic barriers limit the entry of Vit C (being a hydrophilic molecule) into the central nervous system: the blood-brain barrier and the blood-cerebrospinal fluid barrier (CSF) [13]. Considering the whole body, ascorbic acid uptake is mainly conditioned by two sodium-dependent transporters from the SLC23 family, the sodium-dependent Vit C transporter type 1 (SVCT1) and type 2 (SVCT2). These possess similar structure and amino acid sequence, but have different tissue distribution. SVCT1 is found predominantly in apical brush-border membranes of intestinal and renal tubular cells, whereas SVCT2 occurs in most tissue cells [14,15]. SVCT2 is especially important for the transport of Vit C in the brain—it mediates the transport of ascorbate from plasma across choroid plexus to the cerebrospinal fluid and across the neuronal cell plasma membrane to neuronal cytosol [16]. Although dehydroascorbic acid (DHA) enters the central nervous system more rapidly than the ascorbate, the latter one readily penetrates CNS after oral administration. DHA is taken up by the omnipresent glucose transporters (GLUT), which have affinity to this form of Vit C [17,18]. GLUT1 and GLUT3 are mainly responsible for DHA uptake in the CNS [13]. Transport of DHA by GLUT transporter is bidirectional—each molecule of DHA formed inside the cells by oxidation of the ascorbate could be effluxed and lost. This phenomenon is prevented by efficient cellular mechanisms of DHA reduction and recycling in ascorbate [19]. Neurons can take up ascorbic acid using both described ways [20], whereas astrocytes acquire Vit C utilizing only GLUT transporters [21].

The brain has been found to belong to the organs of the highest ascorbate content, with neurons displaying the highest concentration of all the human organism and reaching 10 mmol/L [1,22]. Mefford et al. [23] and Milby et al. [24] showed high concentrations of Vit C in neuron-rich areas of hippocampus and neocortex in the human brain. Authors suggested that ascorbate content in above brain areas is as much as two-fold higher than in other regions. The difference in ascorbate content between neurons and glia appears to be significant [25]. It is postulated that in astrocytes and glial supported cells lacking the SVCT2, the uptake and reduction of DHA may be the only mechanism of ascorbate retention [26]. In addition to ascorbate motion in neurons and glial cells, it is also released from both types of cells. This release contributes to a certain extent to the homeostatic mechanism of extracellular ascorbate maintenance in the brain [15,19]. Moreover, the extracellular ascorbate concentration is regulated dynamically by glutamate release—increase in extracellular Vit C concentration causes heteroexchange with glutamate [27,28].


4. Vitamin C Function in Central Nervous System

 

It is well known that the main function of intracellular ascorbic acid in the brain is the antioxidant defense of the cells. However, vitamin C in the central nervous system (CNS) has also many non-antioxidant functions—it plays a role of an enzymatic co-factor participating in biosynthesis of such substances as collagen, carnitine, tyrosine and peptide hormones. It has also been indicated that myelin formation in Schwann cells could be stimulated by ascorbic acid [7,29].

The brain is an organ particularly exposed to oxidative stress and free radicals’ activity, which is associated with high levels of unsaturated fatty acids and high cell metabolism rate [16]. Ascorbic acid, being an antioxidant, acts directly by scavenging reactive oxygen and nitrogen species produced during normal cell metabolism [30,31]. In vivo studies demonstrated that the ascorbate had the ability to inactivate superoxide radicals—the major byproduct of fast metabolism of mitochondrial neurons [32]. Moreover, the ascorbate is a key factor in the recycling of other antioxidants, e.g., alpha-tocopherol (Vitamin E). Alpha-tocopherol, found in all biological membranes, is involved in preventing lipid peroxidation by removing peroxyl radicals. During this process α-tocopherol is oxidized to the α-tocopheroxyl radical, which can result in a very harmful effect. The ascorbate could reduce the tocopheroxyl radical back to tocopherol and then its oxidized form is recycled by enzymatic systems with using NADH or NADPH [33]. Regarding these facts, vitamin C is considered to be an important neuroprotective agent.

One non-antioxidant function of vitamin C is its participation in CNS signal transduction through neurotransmitters [16]. Vit C is suggested to influence this process via modulating of binding of neurotransmitters to receptors as well as regulating their release [34,35,36,37]. In addition, ascorbic acid acts as a co-factor in the synthesis of neurotransmitters, particularly of catecholamines—dopamine and norepinephrine [26,38]. Seitz et al. [39] suggested that the modulating effect of the ascorbate could be divided into short- and long-term ones. The short-term effect refers to ascorbate role as a substrate for dopamine-β-hydroxylase. Vit C supplies electrons for this enzyme catalyzing the formation of norepinephrine from dopamine. Moreover, it may exert neuroprotective influence against ROS and quinones generated by dopamine metabolism [16]. On the other hand, the long-term effect could be connected with increased expression of the tyrosine hydroxylase gene, probably via a mechanism that entails the increase of intracellular cAMP [39]. It has been stated that the function of ascorbic acid as a neuromodulator of neural transmission may be also associated with amino acidic residues reduction [40] or scavenging of ROS generated in response to neurotransmitter receptor activation [34,41]. Moreover, some have studies showed that ascorbic acid modulates the activity of some receptors such as glutamate as well as γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA) ones [22,40,42,43,44]. Vit C has been shown to prevent excitotoxic damage caused by excessive extracellular glutamate leading to hyperpolarization of the N-methyl-d-aspartate (NMDA) receptor and therefore to neuronal damage [45]. Vit C inhibits the binding of glutamate to the NMDA receptor, thus demonstrating a direct effect in preventing excessive nerve stimulation exerted by the glutamate [26]. The effect of ascorbic acid on GABA receptors can be explained by a decrease in the energy barrier for GABA activation induced by this agent. Ascorbic acid could bind to or modify one or more sites capable of allosterically modulating single-channel properties. In addition, it is possible that ascorbic acid acts through supporting the conversion from the last GABA-bound closed state to the open state. Alternatively, ascorbic acid could induce the transition of channels towards additional open states in which the receptor adopts lower energy conformations with higher open probabilities [40,44].

There have also been reports concerning the effect of Vit C on cognitive processes such as learning, memory and locomotion, although the exact mechanism of this impact is still being investigated [26]. However, animal studies have shown a clear association between the ascorbate and the cholinergic and dopaminergic systems, they also suggested that the ascorbate can act as a dopamine receptor antagonist. This was also confirmed by Tolbert et al. [46], who showed that the ascorbate inhibits the binding of specific dopamine D1 and D2 receptor agonists.

Another non-antioxidant function of Vit C includes modulation of neuronal metabolism by changing the preference for lactate over glucose as an energy substrate to sustain synaptic activity. During ascorbic acid metabolic switch, this vitamin is released from glial cells and is taken up by neurons where it restraints glucose transport and its utilization. This allows lactate uptake and its usage as the primary energy source in neurons [47]. It was observed that intracellular ascorbic acid inhibited neuronal glucose usage via a mechanism involving GLUT3 [48].

Vit C is involved in collagen synthesis, which also occurs in the brain [26]. There is no doubt that collagen is needed for blood vessels and neural sheath formation. It is well recognized that vitamin C takes part in the final step of the formation of mature triple helix collagen. In this stage, ascorbic acid acts as an electron donor in the hydroxylation of procollagen propyl and lysyl residues [16]. The role of Vit C in collagen synthesis in the brain was confirmed by Sotiriou et al. [49]. According to these authors in mice deficient in SVCT2 ascorbate transporter, the concentration of ascorbate in the brain was below detection level. The animals died due to capillary hemorrhage in the penetrating vessels of the brain. Ascorbate-dependent collagen synthesis is also linked to the formation of the myelin sheath that surrounds many nerve fibers [26]. In vitro studies showed that ascorbate, added to a mixed culture of rat Schwann cells and dorsal root ganglion neurons, promoted myelin formation and differentiation of Schwann cells during formation of the basal lamina of the myelin sheath [7,29].

 

5. Role of Vitamin C in Neurodegenerative Diseases

 

Vit C is important for proper nervous system function and its abnormal concentration in nervous tissue is thought to be accompanied with neurological disorders. Studies have shown that disruption of vitamin C transport may cause brain damage in premature infants. Vit C was found to show alleviating effect on seizures severity as well as reducing influence on seizure-induced damage of hippocampus [8,9]. One of the recent studies also revealed that glutamate-induced negative changes in immature brain of rats were reduced by Vit C treatment [50]. Moreover, Vit C administration was shown to recover the colchicine-induced neuroinflammation-mediated neurodegeneration and memory impairments in rats [12] as well as ameliorate behavioral deficits and neuropathological alterations in rats exposed to aluminum chloride [11].

The fact that Vit C can neutralize superoxide radicals, which are generated in large amount during neurodegenerative processes, seems to support its role in neurodegeneration. Moreover, plasma and cellular Vit C levels decline steadily with age and neurodegenerative diseases are often associated with aging. An association of Vit C release with motor activity in central nervous system regions, glutamate-uptake-dependent release of Vit C, its possible role in modulation of N-methyl-d-aspartate receptor activity as well as ability to prevent peroxynitrite anion formation constitute further evidence pointing to the role of Vit C in neurodegenerative processes.

 

5.1. Alzheimer’s Disease

 

Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is the most common form of dementia, an incurable and progressive neurodegenerative disease, leading to far-reaching memory loss, cognitive decline and eventually death. There are two major forms of the AD disease: early onset (familial) and late onset (sporadic). Early-onset one is rare, accounting for less than 5% of all AD cases. Mutations in three genes, mainly amyloid precursor protein (21q21.3), presenilin-1 (14q24.3) and presenilin-2 (1q42.13), have been identified to be involved in the development of this form. Late-onset AD (LOAD) is common among individuals over 65 years of age. Although heritability of LOAD is high (79%), its etiology is considered to be polygenic and multifactorial. The apolipoprotein E ε4 allele (19q13.2) is the major known genetic risk factor for this form of AD. The E4/E4 genotype does not determine the occurrence of LOAD, but is a factor that increases susceptibility to this disease and lowers the age of disease onset. Moreover, a large number of genes have been suggested to be implicated in risk of late-onset Alzheimer’s, e.g., clusterin (8p21), complement receptor 1 (1q32), phosphatidylinositol binding clathrin assembly protein (11q14.2), myc box-dependent-interacting protein 1 (2q14.3), ATP binding cassette transporter 7 (19p13.3), membrane-spanning 4-domains, subfamily A (11q12.2), ephrin type-A receptor 1 (7q34), CD33 antigen (19q13.3), CD2 associated protein (6p12.3), sortilin-related receptor 1 (11q24.1), GRB2 associated-binding protein 2 (11q13.4–13.5), insulin-degrading enzyme (10q24), death-associated protein kinase 1 (DAPK1) or gene encoding ubiquilin-1 (UBQLN1) [51,52]. The list of genes associated with AD is still growing. For instance, in the recent study, Lee et al. revealed that single-nucleotide polymorphisms in six genes, including 3-hydroxybutyrate dehydrogenase, type 1 (BDH1), ST6 beta-galactosamide alpha-2,6-sialyltranferase 1 (ST6GAL1), RAB20, member RAS oncogene family (RAB20), PDS5 cohesin associated factor B (PDS5B), adenosine deaminase, RNA-specific, B2 (ADARB2), and SplAryanodine receptor domain and SOCS box containing 1 (SPSB1/), were directly or indirectly related to conversion of mild cognitive impairment to AD [53].

A neuropathological lesions characteristic of AD include neurofibrillary tangles (composed of hyperphosphorylated and aggregated tau protein) accumulated in the neuronal cytosol as well as the extracellular plaque deposits of the β-amyloid peptide (Aβ), with their frequency correlating with declining cognitive measures [54]. Proteolytic cleavage of amyloid precursor polypeptide chain by secretases (mainly β- and γ-secretase) produces Aβ40 and Aβ42 peptides, which consist of 40 and 42 amino acids, respectively. The latter one, due to its hydrophobicity, is characterized by a greater tendency to form fibrils and is believed to be the main factor responsible for the formation of amyloid deposits [55]. However, Nagababu et al. suggested that the enhanced toxic effect observed for Aβ42 could be attributed to a greater toxicity of the 1–42 aggregates than the 1–40 ones of a comparable size distribution and not to the formation of larger fibrils [56]. According to Ott et al. [54] pre-aggregated Aβ42 peptide induces hyperphosphorylation and pathological structural changes of tau protein and thereby directly links the “amyloid hypothesis” to tau pathology observed in AD [54]. Although the pathogenesis of AD has not been fully understood yet, many studies have demonstrated that ROS and oxidative stress are implicated in disease progression. Aβ peptide was found to enhance the neuronal vulnerability to oxidative stress and cause an impairment of electron transport chain, whereas oxidative stress was shown to induce accumulation of Aβ peptide which subsequently promotes ROS production [16,22,57]. Bartzokis et al. in turn [58] suggested that myelin breakdown in vulnerable late-myelinating regions released oligodendrocyte- and myelin-associated iron that promoted the development of the toxic amyloid oligomers and plaques. There is also the “amyloid cascade-inflammatory hypothesis” which assumes that AD probably results from the inflammatory response induced by extracellular β-amyloid protein deposits, which subsequently become enhanced by aggregates of tau protein [59]. Moreover, recent research has suggested that AD might be a prion-like disease [60,61].

The role of Vit C in AD disease was studied in APP/PSEN1 mice carrying human AD mutations in the amyloid precursor protein (APP) and presenilin (PSEN1) genes (transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease) with partial ablation of vitamin C transport in the brain [9,62,63].

Warner et al. [9] demonstrated that decreased brain Vit C level in the 6-month-old SVCT2+− APPPSEN1 mice (obtained by crossing APPPSEN1 bigenic mice with SVCT2+− heterozygous knockout mice, which have the lower number of the sodium-dependent Vit C transporter) was associated with enhanced oxidative stress in brain, increased mortality, a shorter latency to seizure onset after kainic acid administration (10 mgkg i.p.), and more ictal events following treatment with pentylenetetrazol (50 mgkg i.p.). Furthermore, the authors reported that Vit C deficiency alone in SVCT2+− mice increased the severity of kainic acid- and pentylenetetrazol-induced seizures [62]. According to another study even moderate intracellular Vit C deficiency displayed an important role in accelerating amyloid aggregation and brain oxidative stress formation, particularly during early stages of disease development. In 6-month-old SVCT2+− APPPSEN1 mice increased brain cortex oxidative stress (enhanced malondialdehyde, protein carbonyls, F2-isoprostanes) and decreased level of total glutathione as compared to wild-type controls were observed. Moreover, SVCT2+− mice had elevated levels of both soluble and insoluble Aβ1-42 and a higher Aβ1-42/Aβ1-40 ratio. In 14-month old mice there were more amyloid-β plaque deposits in both hippocampus and cortex of SVCT2+−APPPSEN1+ mice as compared to APPPSEN+ mice with normal brain Vit C level, whereas oxidative stress levels were similar between groups [62]. Ward et al. [63], in turn, showed that severe Vit C deficiency in Gulo−− mice (lacking l-gulono-1,4-lactone oxidase (Gulo) responsible for the last step in Vit C synthesis) resulted in decreased blood glucose levels, oxidative damage to lipids and proteins in the cortex, and reduction in dopamine and serotonin metabolites in both the cortex and striatum. Moreover, Gulo−− mice displayed a significant decrease in voluntary locomotor activity, reduced physical strength and elevated sucrose preference. All the above-mentioned behaviors were restored to control levels after treatment with Vit C (250 mgkg, i.p.). The role of Vit C in preventing the brain against oxidative stress damage seems to be also proved by the recent study performed by Sarkar et al. [64]. The researchers share a view that cerebral ischemia-reperfusion-induced oxidative stress may initiate the pathogenic cascade leading eventually to neuronal loss, especially in hippocampus, with amyloid accumulation, tau protein pathology and irreversible Alzheimer’s dementia. Being the prime source of ROS generation, neuronal mitochondria are the most susceptible to damage caused by oxidative stress. The study proved it that l-ascorbic acid loaded polylactide nanocapsules exerted a protective effect on brain mitochondria against cerebral ischemia-reperfusion-induced oxidative injury [64]. Kennard and Harrison, in turn, evaluated the effects of a single intravenous dose of Vit C on spatial memory (using the modified Y-maze test) in APPPSEN1 mice. The study was performed on APPPSEN1 and wild-type (WT) mice of three age spans (3, 9 or 20 months). It was shown that APPPSEN1 mice displayed no behavioral impairment as compared to WT controls, but memory impairment along with aging was observed in both groups. Vit C treatment (125 mgkg, i.v.) improved performance in 9-month old APPPSEN1 and WT mice, but improvements in short-term spatial memory did not result from changes in the neuropathological features of AD or monoamine signaling, as acute Vit C administration did not alter monoamine levels in the nucleus accumbens [65]. Cognitive-enhancing effects of acute intraperitoneal (i.p.) Vit C treatment in APPPSEN1 mice (12- and 24-month-old) were investigated by Harrison et al. Vit C treatment (125 mgkg i.p.) improved Y-maze alternation rates and swim accuracy in the water maze in both APPPSEN1 and wild-type mice; but like in the previous study had no significant effect on the age-associated increase in Aβ deposits and oxidative stress, and did not also affect acetylcholinesterase (AChE) activity either, which was significantly reduced in APPPSEN1 mice [66]. Murakami et al. [67] in turn reported that 6-month-treatment with Vit C resulted in reduced Aβ oligomer formation without affecting plaque formation, a significant decrease in brain oxidative damage and Aβ42Aβ40 ratio as well as behavioral decline in an AD mouse model. Furthermore, this restored the declined synaptophysin and reduced the phosphorylation of tau protein at Ser396.

Besides the presented roles, Vit C has also been suggested to prevent neurodegenerative changes and cognitive decline by protecting blood–brain barrier (BBB) integrity [68].

Kook et al., in the study performed on KO-Tg mice (generating by crossing 5 familial Alzheimer’s disease mutation (5XFAD) mice with mice lacking Gulo), found that oral Vit C supplementation (3.3 gL of drinking water) reduced amyloid plaque burden in the cortex and hippocampus by ameliorating BBB disruption (via preventing tight junction structural changes) and morphological changes in the mitochondria [69]. This seems to be confirmed by other studies that proved that Vit C might affect levels of proteins responsible for the tightness of BBB, like tight junction-specific integral membrane proteins (occludin and claudin-5) as well as matrix metalloproteinase 9 (MMP-9). Allahtavakoli et al. demonstrated that in a rat stroke model Vit C administration (500 mgkg; 5 h after stroke) significantly reduced BBB permeability by reducing serum levels of matrix metalloproteinase 9 [70]. Song et al. reported that Vit C (100 mgkg i.p.) protected cerebral ischemia-induced BBB disruption by preserving the expression of claudin 5 [71], whereas Lin et al. observed that Vit C (500 mgkg i.p.) prevented compression-induced BBB disruption and sensory deficit by upregulating the expression of both occludin and claudin-5 [72].

In the available literature, there were only few studies investigating the role of Vit C in AD disease in human and the existing ones have yielded equivocal results.

Some studies have shown significantly lower plasma/serum Vit C level in AD patients as compared to healthy individuals, whereas others have found no difference [73,74]. However, meta-analysis performed by Lopes da Silva et al. proved significantly lower plasma levels of Vit C in AD patients [75]. It seems that the above discrepancies may result from the fact that not plasma but rather intracellular Vit C may be associated with AD.

Generally, studies involving human participants are limited to assessing the effect of Vit C supplementation administrated with other antioxidants on AD course.

Arlt et al. [76] found that 1-month and 1-year co-supplementation of Vit C (1000 mgday) with vitamin E (400 IUday) increased their concentrations not only in plasma but also in cerebrospinal fluid (which reflects the Vit C status of the brain), while cerebrospinal fluid lipid oxidation was significantly reduced only after 1 year. However, vitamins’ supplementation did not have a significant effect on the course of AD [76]. These findings were aslo confirmed by the randomized clinical trial of Galasko et al. [77], which showed that treatment of AD patients for 16 weeks with vitamin E (800 IUday) plus Vit C (500 mgday) plus α-lipoic acid (900 mg/day) did not influence cerebrospinal fluid levels of Aβ42, tau and p181tau (widely accepted biomarkers related to amyloid or tau pathology), but decreased F2-isoprostane level (a validated biomarker of oxidative stress). Moreover, is should be emphasized that the above treatment increased risk of faster cognitive decline. This seems to be consistent with results of the recent study which revealed it that Vit C was a potent antioxidant within the AD brain, but it was not able to ameliorate other factors linked to AD pathogenesis as it was proved to be a poor metal chelator and did not inhibit Aβ42 fibrillation [78]. In the study considering an association between nutrient patterns and three brain AD-biomarkers, namely Aβ load, glucose metabolism and gray matter volumes (a marker of brain atrophy) in AD-vulnerable regions, it was found that the higher intake of carotenoids, vitamin A, vitamin C and dietary fibers was positively associated only with glucose metabolism [79].

On the other hand, a randomized control trial involving 276 elderly participants demonstrated that 16-week-co-supplementation of vitamin E and C with β-carotene significantly improved cognitive function (particularly with higher doses of β-carotene). Furthermore, the authors suggested that such a treatment markedly reduced plasma Aβ levels and elevated plasma estradiol levels [80]. Vit C and E co-supplementation for more than 3 years was also shown to be associated with a reduced prevalence and incidence of AD [81]. Moreover, an adequate Vit C plasma level seems to be associated with less progression in carotid intima-media thickness (C-IMT)—the greater C-IMT is suggested to be a risk factor in predicting cognitive decline in the general population, in the elderly population and in patients with Alzheimer’s disease. Polidori et al. showed significant decrease (with a linear slope) in Vit C level among old individuals with no or very mild cognitive impairment from the first to the fourth C-IMT quartile [82].

 

5.2. Parkinson’s Disease

 

Parkinson’s disease (PD) is a common long-term neurodegenerative movement disorder characterized by the progressive loss of substantia nigra dopaminergic neurons and consequent depletion of dopamine in the striatum. Dementia, depression and behavioral deficiencies are common symptoms in the advanced stages of the disease [22]. PD is pathologically heterogeneous, but abnormal aggregation of α-synuclein (α-syn) within neuronal perikarya (Lewy bodies) and neurites (Lewy neurites) are neuropathological (but not pathognomonic) hallmarks of this disease [83]. The primary cause of the neurodegenerative process underlying PD is still unknown. Only about 10% of PD cases have shown to be hereditary, whereas the rest are sporadic and result from complex interactions between environmental and common genetic risk factors. Monogenic PD with autosomal-dominant inheritance is caused by mutation in α-synuclein gene (SNCA) or leucine-rich repeat kinase 2 gene (LRRK2), whereas the form with autosomal recessive inheritance by mutations in the genes encoding Parkin 2 (PARK2), PTEN-induced putative kinase 1 (PINK1), protein deglycase DJ-1 (PARK7), and protein ATP13A2 (PARK9). However, many diverse genetic defects in other loci have been suggested to be associated with PD. Candidate genes which have been reported to be associated with PD include e.g., β-glucocerebrosidase (GBA), diacylglycerol kinase θ, 110kD (GAK-DGKQ), SNCA, human leukocyte antigen (HLA), RAD51B, DYRK1A, CHCHD2, VPS35, RAB39B or TMEM230 [84,85]. Different mechanisms, including genomic factors, epigenetic changes, toxic factors, mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, neuroimmuneneuroinflammatory reactions, hypoxic-ischemic conditions, metabolic deficiencies and ubiquitin–proteasome system dysfunction, seem to be involved in PD pathogenesis [84,86,87,88,89,90,91,92]. Mitochondrial dysfunction has been shown to be linked to mutations in /PINK1 and DJ1 genes [87,88]. Moreover, it is known that dopamine metabolism produces oxidant species, whereas oxidative stress participates in protein aggregation in PD [22,90,93]. Glutamate-mediated excitotoxicity has been proposed to be a further PD factor. It is also suggested that, like in the case of AD, PD might be a prion-like disease [94,95,96]. Olanow et al. [94] proposed the hypothesis that α-synuclein is a prion-like protein that can adopt a self-propagating conformation and thereby cause neurodegeneration. Scheffold et al. [97], in turn, reported that telomere shortening (one of the hallmarks of ageing) led to an acceleration of synucleinopathy and impaired microglia response and thereby might contribute to PD pathology. It is likely that not the above factors per se, but rather their synergistic interactions result in the development of the nigrostriatal damage in PD.

Vit C is believed to play a role in dopaminergic neuron differentiation. He et al. [98] in in vitro study found that Vit C enhanced the differentiation of midbrain derived neural stem cell towards dopaminergic neurons by increasing 5-hydroxymethylcytosine (5hmC) and decreasing histone H3 lysine 27 tri-methylation (H3K27m3) generation in dopamine phenotype gene promoters, which are catalyzed by ten-eleven-translocation 1 methylcytosine dioxygenase 1 (Tet1) and histone H3K27 demethylase (Jmjd3), respectively [98,99]. It seems that Vit C acts through regulation of Tet1 and Jmjd3 activities (it acts as a co-factor), since Tet1 and Jmjd3 knockdowninhibition resulted in no effect of Vit C on either 5hmC or H3K27m3 in the progenitor cells [98]. In another in vitro study, it was shown that mouse embryonic fibroblasts cultured in Vit C-free medium displayed extremely low content of 5hmC, whereas treatment with Vit C resulted in a dose- and time-dependent increase in 5-hmC generation, which was not associated with any change in /Tet genes expression. Additionally, it was found that treatment with another reducing agent as glutathione did not affect 5-hmC, whereas blocking Vit C entry into cells or knocking down Tet expression significantly reduced the effect of Vit C on 5-hmC [100].

Vit C is also believed to play an indirect role in α-syn oligomerization. Posttranslational α-syn modifications caused by oxidative stress, including modification by 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal, nitration and oxidation, have been implicated to promote oligomerization of α-syn, whereas Vit C as an antioxidant prevents this effect [22,101]. Jinsmaa et al. [102] found that treatment with Vit C attenuated Cu2+-mediated augmentation of 3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetaldehyde (DOPAL)-induced α-syn oligomerization in rat pheochromocytoma PC12 cells, but alone (without Cu2+) did not exert such an effect. Khan et al. showed, in turn, that Vit C supplementation (227.1 µM, 454.2 µM or 681.3 µM in diet, 21 days) caused a significant dose-dependent delay in the loss of climbing ability of PD Drosophila model expressing normal human α-syn in the neurons [103].

Moreover, Vit C is thought to be involved in neuroprotection against glutamate-mediated excitotoxicity occurring in PD. Ballaz et al. [104] in in vitro study performed on dopaminergic neurons of human origin showed that Vit C prevented cell death following prolonged exposure to glutamate. Glutamate induced toxicity in a dose-dependent way via the stimulation of α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazole propionic acid (AMPA) and metabotropic receptors and to a lesser degree by N-methyl-d-aspartate (NMDA) and kainate receptors, whereas Vit C (25–300 µM) administration protected cells against glutamate excitotoxity. The authors emphasized the fact that such a neuroprotection effect was dependent on the inhibition of oxidative stress, as Vit C prevented the pro-oxidant action of quercetin occurred over the course of prolonged exposure [104]. Vit C neuroprotection effect against dose-dependent glutamate-induced neurodegeneration in the postnatal brain was also confirmed by Shah et al. [50].

The effect of Vit C on dopamine system has also been observed. Izumi et al. [105] showed that PC12 cells treated with paraquat (50 µM, 24 h) displayed increased levels of cytosolic and vesicular dopamine, whereas pretreatment with Vit C (0.3–10 µM, 24 h) suppressed the elevations of intracellular dopamine and almost completely prevented paraquat toxicity.

Human studies have shown that Vit C deficiency among PD patients is widespread [106,107]. However, similarly like in the case of AD, not plasma but rather intracellular Vit C seems to be associated with PD. This could to be confirmed by the study performed by Ide et al. [108] who investigated the association between both lymphocyte and plasma Vit C levels in various stages of PD. Lymphocyte Vit C levels in patients with severe PD was significantly lower compared to those at less severe stages, whereas plasma Vit C levels showed a decreasing tendency; however that effect was not significant [108].

Although in the newest literature data, there are only a few human studies considering the role of Vit C treatment in PD, the existing ones give some evidences that Vit C treatment may have beneficial effect in PD course. A cohort study involving 1036 PD patients showed that dietary Vit C intake was significantly associated with reduced PD risk. However, it was not significant in a 4-year lagged analysis [109]. Quiroga et al., in turn, reported a case of a 66-year-old man with PD, pleural effusion and bipolar disorder who was found to have low serum Vit C and zinc levels. Intravenous replacement of both Vit C and zinc resulted in resolution of the movement disorder in less than 24 h [107]. The other case report concerned 83-year-old men with dementia, diabetes mellitus, hypertension, benign prostatic hypertension, paroxysmal atrial fibrillation, congestive heart failure and suspected PD. The man was treated with Vit C (200 mg) and zinc (4 mg), which resulted in complete resolution of periungual and gingival bleeding as well as palatal petechiae. Moreover, the man’s orientation and mental status were found to be markedly improved and no further delusions or agitations were observed [110].

Vit C was shown to increase l-dopa (3,4-dihydroxy-l-phenylalanine, one of the main drugs used in PD therapy) absorption in elderly PD patients. However, this effect was not observed in all patients but only in those with poor baseline l-dopa bioavailability [111]. Moreover, in vitro study performed by Mariam et al. revealed that Vit C is a strong inducer of l-dopa production from pre-grown mycelia of Aspergillus oryzae NRRL-1560 [112].

 

5.3. Huntington’s Disease

 

Huntington’s disease (HD) is a genetic, autosomal dominant disorder characterized by general neurodegeneration in brain with marked deterioration of medium-sized spiny neurons (MSNs) in the striatum [17,113]. HD is caused by a mutation (a CAG expansion) in the huntingtin gene (HTT), which results in an abnormal polyglutamine expansion in the huntingtin (HTT) protein and consequently HTT aggregation [113]. The mutant HTT alters intracellular Ca2+ homeostasis, induces mitochondrial dysfunction, disrupts intracellular trafficking and impairs gene transcription [114].

Clinically, HD is characterized by tripartite clinical features, namely progressive motor dysfunction (so-called choreic movements), neuropsychiatric symptoms and a variety of cognitive deficits [115,116]. Neuropathologically, HD is associated with a progressive, selective neuronal dysfunction and degeneration, especially in the both part of striatum (caudate and putamen) [117,118].

HD is known to be associated with a failure in energy metabolism, impaired mitochondrial ATP production and oxidative damage [113,119,120,121]. Other mechanisms, such as excitotoxicity, aberrant glutamatergic, dopaminergic and Ca2+ signaling mechanisms, metabolic damage, immune response, apoptosis as well as autophagy are also suggested to be involved in HD pathology [119,121,122,123,124].

Vit C flux from astrocytes to neurons during synaptic activity is regarded to be essential for protecting neurons against oxidative damage and modulation of neuronal metabolism, thus permitting optimal ATP production [119]. Under physiological conditions, Vit C is released from astrocytes to striatal extracellular fluid during increased synaptic activity. The enhancement of Vit C concentration in striatal extracellular fluid results in SVCT2 translocation to the plasma membrane and consequently Vit C uptake by neurons [119]. In neurons, Vit C is able to scavenge reactive oxygen species generated during synaptic activity and neuronal metabolism. As a result, Vit C is oxidized to dihydroascorbate, which is then released into the extracellular fluid and uptaken by neighboring astrocytes, where is subsequently turned back to a reduced form, which can be used again by neurons. Vit C can interact directly with reactive oxygen species but can also act as a co-factor in the reduction of other antioxidants as glutathione and α-tocopherol. Moreover, Vit C may function as a neuronal metabolic switch, which means that it is capable to inhibit glucose consumption and permit lactate uptake/use as a substrate to sustain synaptic activity. This function is not dependent on antioxidant activity of Vit C [47] and seems to be of great importance, taking into account that decreased expression of GLUT3 in both STHdhQ cells (striatal neurons derived from knock-in mice expressing mutant huntingtin; cell model of HD) and R6/2 mice (mouse model of HD) as well as impaired GLUT3 localization at the plasma membrane in HD cells were observed [125].

Unfortunately, the mechanism mentioned above does not work properly in HD. Abnormal Vit C flux from astrocytes to neurons was found both in R6/2 mice and STHdhQ cells. Acuña et al. proved that SVCT2 failed to reach the plasma membrane in cells expressing mutant Htt, which resulted in disturbed Vit C uptake by neurons [119]. Additionally, there is some evidence that altered glutamate transporter activity (GLT1—the protein primarily found on astrocytes and responsible for removing most extracellular glutamate), observed in HD, is related to deficient striatal Vit C release into extracellular fluid [126,127,128]. Miller et al. performed the study on R6/2 mice receiving ceftriaxone (200 mgkg, once daily injection per 5 days)—a β-lactam antibiotic that selectively increases the expression of GLT1. To evaluate Vit C release in vivo voltammetry combined with corticostriatal afferent stimulation was used. R6/2 mice treated with saline displayed a marked decrease in striatal extracellular Vit C level compared to control group, whereas treatment with ceftriaxone restored striatal Vit C in R6/2 mice to control level and also improved the HD behavioral phenotype. It was also shown that intra-striatal infusion of GLT1 inhibitor (dihydrokainic acid or dl-threo-β-benzyloxyaspartate) blocked evoked striatal Vit C release [126]. Dorner et al., in turn, observed that cortical stimulation resulted in a rapid increase in Vit C release in both R6/2 and wild-type mice, but the response had a significantly shorter duration and smaller magnitude in R6/2 group. The researchers also measured striatal Vit C release in response to treatment with d-amphetamine (5 mgkg)—a psychomotor stimulant known to release Vit C from corticostriatal terminals independently of dopamine. Both Vit C release and behavioral activation were diminished in R6/2 mice compared to wild-type ones. The authors concluded that the corticostriatal pathway was directly involved in behavior-related Vit C release and that this system was dysfunctional in HD [127]. It is thought that Vit C is released into striatal extracellular fluid as glutamate is uptaken—glutamate/Vit C heteroexchange. Consequently, Vit C level decreases while glutamate level increases in extracellular fluid of HD striatum owing to a downregulation of GLT1 [127,128]. Elevated glutamate level in synaptic gaps leads to abnormal signal transmission.

In addition, it is also believed that long-term oxidative stress (one of the key players in HD progression) eliminates the ability of Vit C to modulate glucose utilization [125].

The effect of Vit C treatment on behavior-related neuronal activity was studied by Rebec et al. [129]. The authors showed that in the striatum of R6/2 mice impulse activity was consistently elevated compared to wild-type mice, whereas restoring extracellular Vit C to the wild-type level by Vit C treatment (300 mgkg, 3 days) reversed this effect. This suggests Vit C involvement in normalization of neuronal function in HD striatum. In another study, the same researchers reported that regular injections of Vit C (300 mgkgday, 4 daysweek) restored the behavior-related release of Vit C in striatum, which was associated with improved behavioral responding. Vit C treatment significantly attenuated the neurological motor signs of HD without altering overall motor activity [130].

Although studies performed on cell and animal models of HD appear to indicate the role of Vit C in HD course, to the best of our knowledge, in the newest literature there exists a lack of studies considering the role of Vit C or the effect of its supplementation in HD human subjects.

 

5.4. Multiple Sclerosis

 

Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a progressive demyelinating process considered as an autoimmune disease of unknown etiology. MS is characterized by infiltration of immune cells (in particular T cells and macrophages), demyelination (loss of myelin sheath that surrounds and protects nerve fibers allowing them to conduct electrical impulses) and axonal pathology resulting in multiple neurological deficits, which range from motor and sensory deficits to cognitive and psychological impairment [131,132]. The etiology of MS is still unknown, but it is suggested that genetic predisposition associated with environmental factors can lead to expression of the envelope protein of MS-associated retrovirus (MSRV) and thus trigger the disease [133]. Although pathogenesis of MS has not been fully clarified yet, either destruction by the immune system or a significant extent apoptosis, particularly apoptosis of oligodendroglia cells, are believed to be underlying mechanism. Oxidative/nitrosative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction are believed to contribute to the pathophysiology of MS [131,134,135,136,137].

Having regarded the presented facts, it seems to be justified that Vit C, being a very important brain antioxidant, may affect MS course. Vit C is known to affect numerous metabolic processes directly associated with immune system. Furthermore, Vit C-dependent collagen synthesis has also been linked to formation of the myelin sheath [7].

In the literature data, there are only a few studies considering association between MS and Vit C. However, the existing ones showed that MS patients displayed significantly lower Vit C level as compared to healthy individuals [135,136,138]. Besler et al. [138], in turn, observed an inverse correlation between the serum levels of Vit C and lipid peroxidation in MS patients. The authors concluded that decreased Vit C level, observed in MS patients during relapse of the disease, might be dependent on the elevated oxidative burden as reflected by increased lipid peroxidation. Hejazi et al. [139], in turn, found no significant difference between daily intake of Vit C (recorded from a 24-h dietary recall questionnaire for 3 days) in MS patients (n = 37) in comparison with healthy subjects. The intake of Vit C in both groups was below dietary reference intake (DRI), however in control group it was near the DRI value.

An efficiency of antioxidant therapy in relapsing-remitting multiple sclerosis patients (n = 14) treated with complex of antioxidants and neuroprotectors with various mechanisms of action (oc-lipoic acid, nicotinamide, acetylcysteine, triovit beta-carotine, alpha-tocopheryl acetate, ascorbic acid, selenium, pentoxifylline, cerebrolysin, amantadine hydrochloride) during 1 month, 2 times a year was investigated by Odinak et al. [140]. The treatment resulted in significant reduction of relapse frequency, decrease of required corticosteroid courses and significantly reduced content of lipid peroxide products [140]. However, it should be underlined that Vit C was only one element of multicomponent treatment. However, in another study it was shown that intrahippocampal injection of Vit C (0.2, 1, 5 mgkg, 7 days) improved memory acquisition of passive avoidance learning (PAL) in ethidium bromide-induced MS in rats. The injection of ethidium bromide caused significant deterioration of PAL, whereas treatment with Vit C at a dose of 5 mgkg resulted in significant improvement in PAL [141].

Summing up, the possible role of Vit C in MS course remains to be explored.

 

5.5. Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis

 

Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is an incurable, chronic progressive neurodegenerative disease characterized by the degeneration of upper motor neurons in the motor cortex and lower motor neurons in the spinal cord and the brain stem [142]; the reason why only motor neurons are targeted remains unknown. ALS results in loss of power and function of skeletal muscles, which is reflected by difficulties in walking, using the arms, speaking and swallowing. ALS occurs in two forms: hereditary one, which is called familial (5–10% of ALS cases) and not hereditary one, called sporadic. Familial ALS is indistinguishable from the much more common sporadic form, but usually it begins at a slightly younger age. It is assumed that about 2% of all cases of ALS are caused by mutations in the gene encoding copper/zinc superoxide dismutase (SOD1) on chromosome 21, but the etiology of the remaining ALS cases is not fully understood. The course of ALS is variable, but usually relatively rapid. Most patients die, usually due to respiratory failure (respiratory muscles paralysis), within 3–5 years from the onset of symptoms [143].

Although the underlying causes of motor neuron degeneration remain still unknown, researchers have suggested a contribution of oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, glutamate-mediated excitotoxicity, cytoskeletal abnormalities, and protein aggregation [144]. Because of the above-presented facts and its activity-dependent release in the brain, it seems to be possible that Vit C may be involved in ALS pathogenesis. It appears to be confirmed by Blasco et al. who compared 1 H-NMR spectra of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) samples collected from ALS patients (n = 44) and patients without a neurodegenerative disease. The authors found significantly higher Vit C level in the ALS group. Vit C, apart from being free radical scavenger, was suggested to modulate neuronal metabolism by reducing glucose consumption during episodes of glutamatergic synaptic activity and stimulating lactate uptake in neurons, which is consistent with lower lactate/pyruvate ratio seen in ALS patients [144].

However, in the available literature data, there are only a few studies evaluating an association between Vit C and ALS, and the existing ones have not proved its role in the course of this disease.

Nagano et al. [145] investigated the efficacy of Vit C treatment (0.8% ww/ in the diet) in familiar ALS mice, administered before or after the onset of the disease. The mice treated with Vit C before disease onset survived significantly longer by 62% than the control. However, that treatment did not affect the mean age of onset appearance and administration after disease onset did not prolong survival. Netzahualcoyotzi and Tapia [146] found that the infusion of Vit C (20 mM), alone or in combination with glutathione ethylester, did not prevent the AMPA-induced motor alterations of the rear limbs and motor neuron degradation in rats. The pooled analysis of 5 large prospective studies of about 1100 ALS patients performed by Fitzgerald et al. showed that neither supplementation (even long-term) nor high dietary intake of Vit C affected risk of ALS [147]. Okamoto et al. [148] investigated the relationship between dietary intake of vegetables, fruit and antioxidants and the risk of ALS (153 ALS patients aged 18–81 years with disease duration of 3 years) in Japan. The study showed that a higher consumption of fruits and/or vegetables was associated with a significantly reduced risk of ALS. However, no significant dose-response relationship was observed between intake of beta-carotene, Vit C and vitamin E and the risk of ALS. Spasojević et al. [149], in turn, suggested that the use of Vit C could have an unfavorable effect in ALS patients. The researchers examined the effect of Vit C on the production of hydroxyl radicals in CSF obtained from sporadic ALS patients. Using electron paramagnetic resonance spectroscopy, the authors detected ascorbyl radicals in CSF of ALS patients, whereas in control CSF they were undetectable. Moreover, the addition of hydrogen peroxide to the CSF of ALS patients provoked further formation of ascorbyl as well as hydroxyl radicals ex vivo. Thus, it seems that herein Vit C may paradoxically induce pro-oxidative effects. This may result from the fact that Vit C is an excellent one-electron reducing agent that can reduce ferric (Fe3+) ion to ferrous (Fe2+) one, while being oxidized to ascorbate radical. In a Fenton reaction, Fe2+ reacts with H2O2 generating Fe3+ and a very strong oxidizing agent—hydroxyl radical. The presence of Vit C allows the recycling of Fe3+ back to Fe2+, which can subsequently catalyze the successive formation of hydroxyl radicals [1,150]. Moreover, it has also been shown that high concentrations of ascorbyl radical can reduce SOD activity.

 

6. Role of Vitamin C in Psychiatric Disorders

 

Vit C is also believed to be involved in anxiety, stress, depression, fatigue and mood state in humans. It has been hypothesized that oral Vit C supplementation can elevate mood as well as reduce distress and anxiety.

 

6.1. Depression

 

Depression (DP) is a mental disorder characterized by a number of basic symptoms like low mood, biological rhythm disorders, psychomotor slowdown, anxiety, somatic disorders as well other nonspecific symptoms [151]. It has a multifactorial etiology, with biological, psychological, social and lifestyle factors of important roles [152]. Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain the mechanisms underlying depression. Firstly, it is believed that depression is associated with disturbances of serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine neurotransmission. Moreover, many observations have supported the involvement of GABAergic system in the pathomechanism of depression [153]. GABA level in plasma and CSF of patients suffering from depression was shown to be reduced [154,155] which points to its decreased synthesis in the brain. Recent data have suggested that chronic stress, via initiating changes in the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis and the immune system, acts as a trigger for the above-mentioned disturbance. For example, glucocorticoids and proinflammatory cytokines enhance the conversion of tryptophan to kynurenine thus leading to a decrease in the synthesis of brain serotonin (because less tryptophan is available for conversion to serotonin) and an increase in the formation of neurotoxic metabolites, e.g., glutamate antagonist quinolinic acid. The activity of the dopaminergic systems was also found to be reduced in response to inflammation [156]. Secondly, some genetic factors have been suggested to be implicated in depression etiology [157]. Thirdly, apoptosis of the brain cells seems to be involved in depression development, since a numerical and morphological alterations of astrocytes in patients with major depressive disorder were observed [158,159,160,161]. This may also be dependent, at least partially, on proinflammatory cytokine actions since quinolinic acid was shown to contribute to the increase in apoptosis of astrocytes or neurons [162,163].

Basing on several animal studies [153,155,164,165,166], there is preliminary evidence that Vit C exerts an antidepressant-like effect via:

•  modulation of monoaminergic systems [167] (e.g., Vit C was shown to activate the serotonin 1A (5-HT1A) receptor, this activation is a mechanism of action of many antidepressant, anxiolytic and antipsychotic drugs);

•  modulation of GABAergic systems (via activation of GABAA receptors and a possible inhibition of GABAB receptors) [155];

•  inhibition of N-methyl-d-aspartate (NMDA) receptors and l-arginine-nitric oxide (NO)-cyclic guanosine 3,5-monophosphate (cGMP) pathway—the blockade of NMDA receptor is associated with reduced levels of NO and cGMP, whereas reduction of NO levels within the hippocampus was shown to induce antidepressant-like effects [119];

•  blocking potassium (K+) channels—Vit C administration was shown to produce an antidepressant-like effect in the tail suspension test via K+ channel inhibition [119]; as K+ channels were reported to belong to the physiological targets of NO and cGMP in the brain, their inhibition plays a significant role in the treatment of depression;

•  activation of phosphatidylinositol-3-kinase (PI3K) and inhibition of glycogen synthase kinase 3 beta (GSK-3β) activity [112,119];

•  induction of heme oxygenase 1 expression—it is a candidate depression biomarker which may be a link factor between inflammation, oxidative stress and the biological as well functional changes in brain activity in depression; its decreased expression is associated with depressive symptoms [166,168];

•  since depression is well known to be associated with altered anti- and prooxidant profiles, Vit C may play antidepressant function also by its antioxidant properties [118,119].

The available literature data indicate that Vit C deficiency is very common in patients with depressive disorders. Gariballa [169] in a randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled trial observed that low Vit C status was associated with increased depression symptoms following acute illness in older people. Parameters were measured at baseline as well as after 6 weeks and 6 months. Patients with Vit C depletion had significantly increased symptoms of depression as compared to those with its higher concentrations both at baseline and at 6 weeks. Significantly lower serum Vit C level in patients with depression vs. healthy controls was also shown by Bajpai et al. [170] and Gautam et al. [171]. Moreover, in the latter study dietary supplementation of Vit C (1000 mg/day) along with vitamins A and E for a period of 6 weeks resulted in a significant reduction in depression scores [171]. Furthermore, a case-control study carried out on 60 male university students showed that subjects diagnosed with depression had significantly lower intake of Vit C than the healthy ones [172]. Similarly, in another case-control study involving 116 girls identified as having depressive symptoms, depression was negatively associated with Vit C intake, even after adjusting for confounding variables [173]. Rubio-López et al. [174], in turn, examined the relationship between nutritional intake and depressive symptoms in 710 Valencian schoolchildren aged 6–9 years and also observed that nutrient intake of Vit C was significantly lower in children with depressive symptoms. Additionally, prevalence of Vit C inadequacy (below dietary recommended intakes) was significantly higher in subjects with depressive symptoms.

The efficacy of Vit C as an adjuvant agent in the treatment of pediatric major depressive disorder in a double-blind, placebo-controlled pilot trial was evaluated by Amr et al. [175]. Patients (n = 12) treated for six months with fluoxetine (10–20 mgday) and Vit C (1000 mgday) showed a significant decrease in depressive symptoms in comparison with the fluoxetine plus placebo group as measured by the Children’s Depression Rating Scale and Children’s Depression Inventory. No serious adverse effects were shown. Zhang et al. [176] in double-blind clinical trial investigated the effect of Vit C (500 mg twice daily) on mood in non-depressed acutely hospitalized patients. The applied therapy increased plasma and mononuclear leukocyte Vit C concentrations and was associated with a 34% reduction in mood disturbance (assessed with Profile of Mood States) [176]. Similarly, Wang et al. found that short-term Vit C (500 mg twice daily) treatment was associated with a 71% reduction in mood disturbance (assessed with Profile of Mood States) and a 51% reduction in psychological distress (assessed with Distress Thermometer) in acutely hospitalized patients with a high prevalence of hypovitaminosis C [177]. Khajehnasiri et al. [178] in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial involving 136 depressed male shift workers observed, in turn, that Vit C administration (250 mg twice daily for 2 months) alone and in combination with omega-3 fatty acids significantly reduced the Beck Depression Inventory (BDI) score, however omega-3 fatty acid supplementation alone was more effective. Moreover, Vit C and omega-3 fatty acids supplementation alone (but not in combination) decreased significantly serum MDA levels. Fritz et al. [179] conducted a systematic review of human and observational studies assessing the efficiency of interventional Vit C as a contentious adjunctive cancer therapy and reported that it could improve quality of life, physical function, as well as prevent some side effects of chemotherapy, including fatigue, nausea, insomnia, constipation and depression.

 

6.2. Anxiety

 

Anxiety is an adaptive response to uncertain threat, but it becomes pathological when is disproportionate to the threat, persists beyond the presence of the stressor, or is triggered by innocuous stimuli or situations. Similarly like in the case of depression, neurotransmitter system disruptions (namely GABA, serotonin and noradrenalin) as well as an impaired regulation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis are involved in anxiety disorders [180]. Furthermore, several studies have suggested a positive correlation between oxidative stress and anxiety-like behavior.

The growing evidence, which has been recently emerged, suggests that anxiety is associated with Vit C deficit, whereas Vit C supplementation could help reduce feeling of anxiety. The underlying mechanism is not fully understood yet, but Vit C seems to play this role by: regulating neurotransmitters’ activity, attenuating cortisol activity, preventing stress-induced oxidative damage and antioxidant defense in brain or some as yet undetermined effects on anxiety-related brain structures [181].

Kori et al. [182] observed that rats subjected to restrained stress (by placing in a wire mesh restrainer for 6 h per day for 21 days) displayed a significant increase in serum cortisol level with concomitant decrease in serum Vit C and E levels. Boufleur et al. [183], in turn, found decreased plasma Vit C levels in rats exposed to chronic mild stress. Interestingly, neonatal handling could prevent Vit C reduction in rats exposed to chronic mild stress in adulthood. Koizumi et al. [184] showed that Vit C status was critical for determining vulnerability to anxiety in a sex-specific manner. The study was performed on senescence marker protein–30/gluconolactones knockout mice (unable to synthesize Vit C) whose Vit C status was continuously shifted from adequate to depleted one (by providing a water with or without Vit C). It was observed that anxiety responses in the novelty-suppressed feeding paradigm were worse during Vit C depletion conditions, especially in females. Hughes et al. [181], in turn, reported that prolonged treatment with Vit C (approximately 80 mgkgday in drinking water, 83 days) markedly decreased anxiety-related behavior in the open field test in hooded rats. In another study, the same researchers examined the effect of Vit C treatment with three doses (61, 114 or 160 mgkgday in drinking water, 8 weeks) and observed that an anxiolytic effects of Vit C were displayed in higher frequencies of walking (with doses of 114 mgkgday and 160 mgkgday), higher frequencies of rearing (with dose of 61 mgkgday) and lower frequencies of grooming (with dose of 61 mgkgday) in the open-field as well as more frequent occupation of the open arms in the elevated plus-maze (with dose of 61 mgkgday). The authors concluded that anxiolytic effects of Vit C were more typical of the lowest dose and it was to some extent dependent on anxiety intensity [185]. The effect of Vit C on adrenal gland function (an element of the stress response system) was investigated by Choi et al. [186]. An adrenalectomized (ADX) and non-ADX rats were treated with Vit C (25 or 100 mkg, 7 days) and subsequently subjected to both Vit C treatment and electroshock stress for next 5 days. Vit C supplementation reduced corticosterone level in non-ADX rats. Stress decreased the mean value of rearing frequency in both non-ADX and ADX rats, whereas Vit C partially attenuated this effect in non-ADX group. Moreover, Vit C treatment decreased adrenocorticotropic hormone in both groups and significantly reduced freezing time increased by stress. The authors suggested that the alleviating effect of Vit C on stress-related rearing behavior was exerted via modulation of corticosterone, whereas the effect on freezing behavior via modulation of corticotropin-releasing hormone or adrenocorticotropin-releasing hormone [186]. Puty et al. [187] in turn suggested that Vit C plays anxiolytic-like effect via affecting serotonergic system. The researchers evaluated the protective effect of Vit C against methylmercury (MeHg)-induced anxiogenic-like effect in zebrafish. MeHg produced a marked anxiogenic effects in the lightdark box test, which was accompanied by a decrease in the extracellular levels of serotonin as well an increase in its oxidized metabolite tryptamine-4,5-dione, whereas pretreatment with Vit C (2 mgg, i.p.) prevented such alterations. Furthermore, Angrini and Leslie [188] found that pretreatment with Vit C (100 mg or 200 mgkg) could attenuate, especially the higher dose, behavioral and anxiogenic effects of prolonged exposure to noise (100 dB for 2 months, 5 days/week, 4 h daily) on male laboratory mice.

Although there are only a few studies considering the effects of vitamin C on anxiety and stress responses in humans, the existing ones seem to provide promising results.

De Oliveira et al. [189] examined the effects of short-term oral Vit C supplementation (500 mgday, 14 days) in high school students (n/ = 42) in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. The treatment led to higher plasma Vit C concentration that was associated with reduced anxiety levels evaluated with BIA (Beck Anxiety Inventory). Moreover, the Vit C supplementation had positive effect on the heart rate. Gautam et al. [171] observed that patients with generalized anxiety disorder had significantly lower Vit C levels in comparison with healthy controls, whereas 6-week vitamins supplementation (vitamin C accompanied with A and E) led to a significant reduction in anxiety scores [171]. Mazloom et al. [190], in turn, showed that short-term supplementation of Vit C (1000 mg/day) reduced anxiety levels (evaluated basing on Depression Anxiety Stress Scales 21-item) in diabetic patients. This effect was exerted through alleviating oxidative damage. Furthermore, recently performed a systematic review also showed that high-dose Vit C supplementation was effective in reducing anxiety as well as stress-induced blood pressure increase [191].


6.3. Schizophrenia

 

Schizophrenia is a severe and complex neuropsychiatric disorder that affects 1% of the population worldwide [192,193,194]. Symptoms of schizophrenia are described as “positive” (also so-called productive) and “negative” ones: the first include hallucinations, paranoia and delusions, while negative examples are: limited motivation, impaired speech, weakening and social withdrawal. These symptoms usually appear in early adulthood and often persist in about three-fourths of patients despite optimum treatment [192]. Some authors have suggested that insufficient dopamine level due to the loss of dopamine producing cells may lead to schizophrenia [195]. On the other hand, it has been postulated that schizophrenia has been linked to hyperactivity of brain dopaminergic systems that may reflect an underlying dysfunction of NMDA receptor-mediated neurotransmission [194]. Furthermore, there is the increasing evidence that several physiological mechanisms such as oxidative stress, altered one carbon metabolism and atypical immune-mediated responses may be involved in schizophrenia pathomechanism [192,196].

Hoffer [197] summarized in the review study the evidence showing that among others Vit C deficiency could worsen the symptoms of schizophrenia and that large doses of this vitamin could improve the core metabolic abnormalities predisposing some people to development of this disease. According to the author, it is probable that the pathologic process responsible for schizophrenia could increase ascorbic acid utilization. Sarandol et al. [198] also noted lower levels of serum Vit C as compared to control group, but this was not regarded as a statistically significant difference. Moreover, a 6-week-long antipsychotic treatment did not modify the concentration of this vitamin. The authors explained that other factors, such as nutrition, physical activity, etc., might be the reason for the discrepancy between the results of their research and other studies. Similarly, Young et al. [199] observed only a slight decrease in Vit C levels in schizophrenic group vs. control one; but interestingly, a highly significant increase in Vit C level in the control female group as compared to both control as well as schizophrenic male group was observed. The authors pointed out that this information might be relevant particularly in the light of recent reports that the risk of schizophrenia is higher in men than women. The reduced supply of Vit C with the diet in patients with schizophrenia was noted by Konarzewska et al. [200].

The review of Magalhães et al. revealed that the implementation of Vit C as a low-molecular-weight antioxidant alleviated the effects of free radicals in the treatment of schizophrenia [201]. According to Bentsen et al. [202] membrane lipid metabolism and redox regulation may be disturbed in schizophrenia. These authors conducted a study aiming at examination of the clinical effect of adding vitamins E + C to antipsychotics (D2 receptor antagonists). Patients with schizophrenia or related psychoses received Vit C (1000 mgday) along with vitamin E (364 mgday) for 16 weeks. Vitamins impaired the course of psychotic symptoms, especially of persecutory delusions. The authors pointed to the usefulness of supplementation of antioxidant vitamins as agents alleviating some side effects of antipsychotic drugs. This was also confirmed by the next study involving schizophrenia patients treated with haloperidol [203]. Classical antipsychotics like haloperidol are suggested to increase oxidative stress and oxidative cell injury in brain, which may influence the course as well as treatment effects of schizophrenia. In this study, chronic haloperidol treatment connected with supplementation of a combination of ω-3 fatty acids and vitamins E and C showed a significant beneficial effect on schizophrenia treatment as measured by SANS (Simpson Angus Scale) and BPRS (Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale) scales. BPRS total score and subscale scores as well as SANS scores were significantly improved starting from the 4th week of treatment. Moreover, in patients with schizophrenia after 16 weeks of treatment, serum Vit C levels were almost twice as high as at the beginning of the study. These results supported the hypothesis of a beneficial effect of the applied supplementation both on positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia as well as the severity of side effects induced by haloperidol [203]. Heiser et al. [204] also stated that reactive oxygen species (ROS) were involved in the pathophysiology of psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia. Their research demonstrated that antipsychotics induced ROS formation in the whole blood of rats, which could be reduced by the application of vitamin C. The aim of their study was to demonstrate the effects of clozapine, olanzapine and haloperidol at different doses (18, 90 and 180 μg/mL) on the formation of ROS in the whole blood by using electron spin resonance spectroscopy. To demonstrate the protective capacity of Vit C the blood samples were incubated the highest concentration of each drug with Vit C (1 mM) for 30 min. Olanzapine caused significantly greater ROS formation vs. control under all treatment conditions, while in the case of haloperidol and clozapine only two higher concentrations resulted in significantly increased ROS formation. Vitamin C reduced the ROS production of all tested drugs, but for olanzapine the attenuating effect did not reach a significant level.

A relatively novel approach as for the role of Vit C in etiology and treatment of schizophrenia was presented by Sershen et al. [193]. According to the researchers, deficits in N-methyl-d-aspartate receptor (NMDAR) function are linked to persistent negative symptoms and cognitive deficits in schizophrenia. This hypothesis is supported by the fact that the flavoprotein D-amino acid oxidase (DAO) was shown to degrade the gliotransmitter D-Ser, a potent activator of N-methyl-d-aspartate-type glutamate receptors, while a lot of evidence has suggested that DAO, together with its activator, G72 protein, may play a key role in the pathophysiology of schizophrenia. Furthermore, in a postmortem study the activity of DAO was found to be two-fold higher in schizophrenia subjects [205]. Sershen et al. [193] showed that acute ascorbic acid dose (300 mgkg i.p.) inhibited PCP-induced and amphetamine-induced locomotor activity in mouse model, which was further attenuated in the presence of D-serine (600 mgkg). The authors suggested that this effect could result from the Vit C-depended changes in dopamine carrier-membrane translocation and/or altered redox mechanisms that modulate NMDARs. However, this issue needs to be further investigated.


7. Conclusions

 

The crucial role of Vit C in neuronal maturation and functions, neurotransmitter action as well as responses to oxidative stress is well supported by the evidences presented in this review (Figure 2).

Figure 2. The main potential consequences of brain Vit C deficiency in the course and pathogenesis of neurological disorders.

The aforementioned animal studies confirmed the usefulness of using of Vit C in the treatment of neurological diseases, both neurodegenerative and psychiatric ones. Only in the case of ALS, the possible unfavorable effects were suggested. However, studies on the role of Vit C in the course of neurological disorders in human are limited and the existing ones have aimed mostly at evaluating the effect of Vit C supplementation (often co-supplementation with other agents). Recently, a tendency toward using administration of large doses of Vit C as an adjuvant in curing of many diseases was observed. Unfortunately, in the available literature there is a lack of studies considering this issue in the context of neurological disorders.

In conclusion, the future studies concerning the question if Vit C could be a promising adjuvant in therapy of neurodegenerative and/or psychiatric disorders in humans, seem to be advisable.

 


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Posted 02 December 2022 - 01:48 PM

OK I'm a Vitamin C Megadose CONVERT!

 

It's been 4 or so days of taking 10g of vitamin C a day, all at once, with my morning stack. This is replacing the 1g I've been taking for years now in my stack (check 2 posts back).

 

My wound healing ability has gone up dramatically. My throat healing which I've had problems for ages due to smoking, as well as coughs, and allergies, gone. The back of my right ear skin fungal infection I've had for over a year, which wouldn't just seem to heal fully regardless of taking my well rounded stack with 1g of vitamin c in it (and experimenting with other supplements to help the issue), and applying fungal cream, and also emu oil, is now clotting well as if my vitamin k complex I've been taking is finally working. And mentally I feel a bit calmer (less ocd), a bit happier, cigarette cravings are less, and tiredness is much less.

 

I can only assume the wound healing issues plaguing me physically, the ones I could notice and are healing now, are effecting me physically on the inside as well, including my brain and mental health. 

 

I've tested lipsomal vitamin c in years past without much results, but I was only testing it for brain/mental effects. Now I have wound healing issues, I can actually see the good it's doing for me right away, and how much my body seems to be craving more than just 1g of vitamin c, good old ascorbic acid working it's charm, no need for the expensive lipsomal stuff.

 

The only other thing I'm adding back to my stack is zinc. I have been taking zinc citrate for years, but recently decided to just get it from my multivitamin and food due to possible imbalances. However back in 2014, I use to take zinc picolinate which gave me great observable results but also insomnia, I was also megadosing it at the time and was worried about copper deficiency, so I dropped it for a zinc citrate supplement, which I noted back then didn't give me the same results as zinc picolinate, but regardless stuck with zinc citrate for years. I wrote about it in the thread here https://www.longecit...hanged-my-life/

 

So I'm getting some zinc picolinate again, and will be experimenting with doses 25-100mg a day, but this time, try and eat liver once a week to counteract any possible copper deficiencies.

 

I haven't felt this excited about my stack returning positive results for yonks. If my skin was failing on the outside, I can only hope with it now healing, that I will heal on the inside, collagen, blood vessels, whatever else, and it will eventually improve me mentally (ocd, hypomania).

 

Loving life right now.

 

Also I wanted to write this post of my results before I added extra zinc supplementation into the mix.


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Posted 02 December 2022 - 05:56 PM

Okay, I'm sorry if this grosses anyone out, but I wanted to show the difference megadosing vitamin C is making to my ear's wound healing in a mere 4 days.

 

The first pic is from the 31st of October. I've had this issue with my ear for over a year, only experimenting with different supplements/stack to try and fix the problem. No fungal cream or ointments. Also remember I was taking 1g of Vitamin C in my stack, as well as Super K complex.

 

The second pic is from the 27th of November (last Sunday). This is after trying to routinely apply clotrimazole cream, emu oil, and coconut oil at different stages to my ear for around a month, as well as continuing to take my stack (which had 1g of Vitamin C in it). You can see it healed quite a bit, but it was like fighting a losing battle, it gets better and then gets worse again and opens up.

 

Now the third picture is from the 2nd of December (today), 5 days after the last image. I got lazy and stopped applying creams, emu oil, or coconut oil. The only thing that's changed, is for the last 4 days, I've taken 10g of Vitamin C with my stack in the morning instead of 1g. Look at the difference in clotting and scabs. It's like some alien is taking over my ear. 

 

Along with the other benefits I've felt with my throat healing, coughs, and allergies, and slight energy increase, the difference in 4 days is insane! Before it felt like a losing battle of applying stuff to my skin, where it seemed to help a little, but not enough, and then get worse again. But now I don't even care about applying anything, I feel like it will heal regardless, as long as I keep taking the megadoses of vitamin c.

 

So if this is what was happening on the outside of my body, I can't imagine what was happening on the inside of my body and brain. A few steps away from scurvy brain it seems like, maybe the core reason for my deteriorating mental health these past few years, even though I was taking 1g (technically 1.2g when including the multivitamin) of Vitamin C a day already.

 

So while people may argue you can't absorb more than 200mg at a time, this is not the case for me as I was already taking 1.2g (inc multivitamin) so I should be way over that limit already and produce no further benefits, and yet taking 10g in one sitting in the morning has made a ton of difference. Others may argue there is no benefit in megadoses, but this is not the case for me either. And this is all from good ol' regular ascorbic acid tablets. I'm not generalising dosing or vitamin c benefits for everyone, I'm just sharing my results.

 

Originally my goal was to test between 6-10g a day. I wanted to start at 10g and then work my way down. I did get diarrhoea with 10g, but it felt like each day my bowel tolerance got a bit better anyway, so I'm going to stick with 10g for now and for life if possible, unless bowel tolerance doesn't improve enough, then I'll go a little lower.

 

Looking forward to getting my zinc picolinate tomorrow at some point. Collagen production to the moon! Inside and out. My hope is healthy internal blood vessels, will result in a healthy brain, and better mental health.

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Posted 03 December 2022 - 02:12 AM

Vit c indeed helps against insomnia. In ussr it was sold in cans 50mg x 200 tablets which makes 10gr. I remember when children we sometimes ate the entire can during a day like sweets without much adverse effects. Light acne could happen only. Also tablets are usually sold to contain non lethal dose in one pack. So 10 gr should be ok for vit c though i strongly doubt that at present vit c tablets contain honest doses as stated. Perhaps it's 2-10 times weaker than claimed. If you don't have deep sleep your neurons become damaged - get ghb in this case.



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Posted 15 December 2022 - 12:51 PM

I’m off vitamin c megadoses. I’m getting an insomnia side effect from it like I did before, and have reduced it back to 1.2g (1 vitamin c pill and amount in multivitamin).

 

My main issue for wound healing stemmed from a long term zinc deficiency from taking NAC for OCD for years (NAC chelates minerals from the body). Funnily enough zinc has a profound positive effect on my OCD and calming the mind.

 

So my ear still seems to be healing, it doesn’t feel like a constant battle now of healing and regression, however it hasn’t healed fully yet, so the results are currently inconclusive. So I’m giving it a few more weeks to see if my zinc supplementation makes a difference, before I add emu oil or coconut oil externally, as I want to see if it will heal fully without any external application.



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Posted 28 May 2023 - 02:24 PM

Okay, so it seems like zinc didn't really help with healing. And I can't usually take megadoses of vitamin c, which seems to visibly help, but it also causes insomnia. I was very sensitive to insomnia from a lot of things.

 

Well by serendipity, I got put on my first regular medication, escitalopram, I've been on it for 32 days now, and I recently got it reduced it from 10mg to 5mg because of the dry throat.

 

I know there's a lot of hate for SSRI's, but I've seen several benefits so far (though it's very early):

 

1. It works incredibly well for OCD.

2. It works well for balancing highs and lows.

3. My sleep quality has improved.

4. I'm not really as sensitive to things that would usually cause insomnia.

5. It's basically cured my IBS.

 

Because of all these effects, but especially the last 2, I seem to be able to megadose vitamin c again without it giving me major insomnia. Not only that, but I don't have to worry about IBS/bowel tolerance from it either. 

 

I've been experimenting with 5g the last week, and upped it up to 10g the last 2 days, all at once in the morning. So it will be interesting to see how this effects me again, and if I can do it long term. I've already noticed an increase in healing ability for my ear and throat, and my general well being has also increased today, but it's way too early to tell.

 

I honestly feel like due to my poor wound healing ability in parts of the body, and it's improvement with megadoses of vitamin c, it feels like some type of mild scurvy I suffer from at times, and I can't imagine what it's doing to my brain and mental health. So it will be interesting to see if I experience that euphoria, mood boost, and increased energy again like I did on the 9th day when I first started this thread. Time will tell.



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Posted 28 May 2023 - 04:40 PM

https://www.futureme...7/fmb-2022-0209

Interesting study on vitamin c and increasing beneficial gut bacteria.

 

Quick thought, though I’m not sure if this is scientifically correct. But what if the reason I felt so great on the 9th when originally creating this thread, was because I was megadosing normal ascorbic acid, and this also had a beneficial effect on my gut bacterial. While the second time I tried it with megadoses of lipsomal vitamin c, which absorbed better into the blood, but left less in the gut microbiome to benefit from. Also is it even possible for the gut microbiome to benefit from lipsomal vitamin c, when the ascorbic acid is encapsulated in lecithin.

 

Like I said, I have no idea how scientifically correct this is, but that’s a theory of mine.

If you think about regular vitamin c and bowel tolerance, compared to lipsomal vitamin c where you don’t have to worry about that issue (I know I didn’t when I tried it in megadoses). When you reach bowel tolerance, you don’t seem to absorb anymore vitamin c, so where does the rest of it go? Throughout the gut and into the toilet. And as that study says, vitamin c is beneficial to gut microbiome. So while you think you’re wasting it down the toilet because of bowel tolerance and not absorbing it in the blood, you literally may be benefiting your gut microbiome still by letting non absorbed vitamin c travel through.

 

I probably could explain this in better wording usually, but one negative side effect from my escitalopram is slight brain fog.

 

But the benefit of improving my IBS using this med is great for this vitamin c experiment. It’s like having a normal poop but a little more urgent, vs a splatterfest and it being incredibly urgent. 

 

Hell I took another 10g of vitamin c today, making a total of 20g, and toilet issues aren’t an issue like they were previously. Even had a 500ml energy drink, and it’s not effecting my gut.

 

Time to see if this vitamin c megadosing will help rebuild my gut, immune system, collagen for wound healing ability and brain health.



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Posted 28 May 2023 - 08:52 PM

If you think about regular vitamin c and bowel tolerance, compared to lipsomal vitamin c where you don’t have to worry about that issue (I know I didn’t when I tried it in megadoses).

 

Titrating to bowel-tolerance, my limit is at 50 g/d. Probably as high as that because of allegies, and that's why I use it this way because its also an antihistamine, without their side-effect. With a slight cold it goes beyond 100 g/d, and I simply cannot reach anymore. To much water too often needed to gulp that much ascrobic acid powder down.

 

Compared to that I can take 1/3 more of liposomal vitamin C, however it too has a bowel-tolerance limit due to all that PPC.
 


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Posted 28 May 2023 - 11:53 PM

Megadoses are waste of money, imo. Effect of tolerance will null the effect. The same with steroids. There is a limit when increase of substance does not help. Ssri are evil. Were never prescribed in ussr because they make men impotents. Because euphoria substances are supposed to be released during sex. You can't deceive laws of nature. Your american masters decieve you, poor anglosaxos...



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Posted 29 May 2023 - 10:17 AM

Megadoses are waste of money, imo. Effect of tolerance will null the effect.

 

Do search the article 'titrate to bowel-tolerance' on DoctorYourself to inform yourself, what that could mean.

 

Alone the antihistamine-effect with out their usual side-effect is worthwhile.

 

Besides, I experienced remission from a walking-disability from PAD, COPD stage 1, ME/CFS symptom of constant PEMs, and some minor organ damages by taking in average 25 g/d of ascorbic acid powder for the last 14 year. All considered irreversible by conventional medicine.

Of course, without such non-reversible chronic conditions the immetiate effect will always be null. Ascorbic acid for so many reasons can't be compared to pharmaceuticals. Where even prescribed doses lead to innummerable side-effects and even regular death. Even something as harmless as Aspirin in average of about 60 in the US alone!

 

No deaths from mega-dose essential nutrients in comparison at all. Worth every penny, compared to my health-insurance, which covers pharmaceuticals only, unable the slightest to enable such unheard of remissions.


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Posted 29 May 2023 - 10:27 PM

Do search the article 'titrate to bowel-tolerance' on DoctorYourself to inform yourself, what that could mean.

 

Alone the antihistamine-effect with out their usual side-effect is worthwhile.

 

Besides, I experienced remission from a walking-disability from PAD, COPD stage 1, ME/CFS symptom of constant PEMs, and some minor organ damages by taking in average 25 g/d of ascorbic acid powder for the last 14 year. All considered irreversible by conventional medicine.

Of course, without such non-reversible chronic conditions the immetiate effect will always be null. Ascorbic acid for so many reasons can't be compared to pharmaceuticals. Where even prescribed doses lead to innummerable side-effects and even regular death. Even something as harmless as Aspirin in average of about 60 in the US alone!

 

No deaths from mega-dose essential nutrients in comparison at all. Worth every penny, compared to my health-insurance, which covers pharmaceuticals only, unable the slightest to enable such unheard of remissions.

That’s quite a story, glad to hear your improvements in health.

 

I have a few questions. 
 

In the previous post you said you limit is 50g. In this post you said you average of 25g a day over the past 14 years.

 

I wanted to know how much you take daily today?

 

And do you take it all at once, or split it throughout the day?


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Posted 29 May 2023 - 11:10 PM

In the previous post you said you limit is 50g. In this post you said you average of 25g a day over the past 14 years.

 

I wanted to know how much you take daily today?

 

And do you take it all at once, or split it throughout the day?

 

Titrating to the max. bowel-tolerance is only possible by taking it very frequently throughout the day. If I take more than ten grams at once, it would already be the limit, but a falsified one. With at the most every twenty minutes and less then ten grams in my case, I can get up to my true bowel-tolerance. That is a lot of effort, therefore only did it experimentally. The idea behind is to find it out - which has also diagnostic value with the table from Carthardt - and then try to take a third less as therapeutic daily dose further on.

 

Vitamin C also regularly taken has a short half-life, therefore best to split up, like twenty minutes before meals and before sleep, if tolerated then.

 

Though no nutrient is as dangerous as drugs, caution of always possible averse or allergic reaction to some other ingredient suggests to start with everything in lowest possible doses, and increase gradually over weeks, months and years. First improvement only started when I reached seven grams after one year - about what Linus Pauling suggested as lowest therapeutic dose. Then some setbacks with COPD, and only reached remission of the walking-disabilty after seven full years.

 

So in the average of the individual years, I took different amounts from seven up to thirtyfive grams a day. And divided through fourteen years, its now at twentyfive.

 

Since one week finally with sunshine my hay-fever set in, and therefore take about double than the months before. Slightly below fifty today.
 


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Posted 30 May 2023 - 08:54 AM

Interesting.

 

I’m going to stick to 10g in the morning with my stack, and then another 10g in the evening. I seem to just about tolerate that. I say that loosely, because I still get a diarrhea effect, but it’s not the same since taking the SSRI, the urgency is much less. So it’s like diarrhea but with less IBS (due to the SSRI).

 

Now I’ve got to continue with the regime before I can see the overall effects, currently I don’t see any change in mood, and though my the skin behind my ears healing differently, I need to wait and see.

 

My cough is annoying as well, today I quit smoking (I hope) and switched to vaping. So I’m hoping the vitamin c can improve my throat healing as well.



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Posted 30 May 2023 - 09:51 AM

I’m going to stick to 10g in the morning with my stack, and then another 10g in the evening. I seem to just about tolerate that.

 

You would tolerate more if taken less, and more frequently. With exorbitant needs due to eaten up body stores of vitamin C by chronic conditions, the dose is the key.

 

Something to consider:

https://courses.lume...e-accumulation/

Table 9.312 Human tissue & fluid ascorbic acid concentrations

Organ/Tissue 	Vitamin C Concentration* 	

Adrenal Gland 	30-40 	
Eye Lens 	25-31 	
Liver 	10-16 	
Brain 	13-15 	
Pancreas 	10-15 	
Spleen 	10-15 	
Kidneys 	5-15 		
Lungs 	7
Skeletal Muscle 	3-4
Testes 	3
Thyroid 	2
Cerebrospinal Fluid 	3.8
Plasma 	0.4-1
Saliva 	0.1-9.1

* mg/100 g wet tissue, mg/100 mL fluids

Quite stunning, that usually only the least containing tissues are tested, but not at all where it would be needed most. And explains why plasma levels are difficult to increase - simply too much needs elsewhere, and immetiately been sucked up. ..and not saturation, as generally assumed.

 

One NewZealand found, that taking up to twenty grams throughout a day increased plasma concentrations to about nine mg/dL. Now immagine if you brain ascorbate gets increased likewise - it could reach astronomical levels. But since I never had problems with mood or psychiatric conditions, no obvious effects for me there.


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Posted 30 May 2023 - 04:28 PM

I would question the effectiveness of mega doses in the absence of the synergistic polyphenols typically found alongside in most fruits.

 

Two Faces of Vitamin C—Antioxidative and Pro-Oxidative Agent
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC7285147/

 

This is not the case with epicatechin or EGCG,

 

Recent investigations have revealed many other direct actions of EGCG that are independent from anti-oxidative mechanisms. In this review, we discuss these novel molecular mechanisms of action for EGCG. In particular, EGCG directly interacts with proteins and phospholipids in the plasma membrane and regulates signal transduction pathways, transcription factors, DNA methylation, mitochondrial function, and autophagy to exert many of its beneficial biological actions.

 


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Posted 31 May 2023 - 08:34 AM

At discretion/separately:

1 tsp Dropi Cod Liver Oil (for vitamin A and a bit of D) *

10 x Vitamin C (1g) *

1 x Zinc Picolinate (22mg) *

 

Purple/Basics:

2 x Multivitamin

1 x Triple Magnesium Complex

1 x Vitamin D (10,000 IU) 

1 x B-complex+Ginseng (Energise)

1 x HydroxyB12 (1mg)

1 x Folic Acid (400mcg)

1 x Vitamin E (400 IU)

1 x Molybdenum (150mcg)

1 x Selenium (200mcg)

1 x Boron (3mg)

1 x Vitamin K2 MK-4 (1mg)

1 x DHA-500

1 x Borage Oil (1g)

 

Yellow:

1 x Licorice Root (450mg)

1 x Taurine (1g)

1 x Glycine (1g)

1 x DLPA (500mg) *

1 x CoQ10 (100mg) 

1 x Ginger (300mg/5% gingerols)

1 x Saccharomyces+MOS (Jarrows)

1 x LP299V (Jarrows)

1 x Caprylic Acid (Now Foods)

1 x Garlic Oil (Solgar)

1 x Pycnogenol (40mg)

1 x Phosphatidylserine (300mg) 

1 x Tyrosine (500mg)

 

This is the current stack I take in the morning. The purple pill box are my essentials, while yellow is more botanicals/extras, and things I’m experimenting with but are not sure about are at the top, or can’t go in a pill box is at the top.

 

So hopefully things like Licorice root, ginger, and pycnogenol are giving me some polyphenols, but that’s purely me guessing those things might.

 

I think my current goal with vitamin c is wound healing, collagen production inside the body/brain, fighting against infection, and healing a cough I get at night that disturbs my sleep.

 

Quitting smoking is essential for me, and I’m currently on vaping. And hopefully I’ll quit vaping after I’ve been off cigarettes for a couple of weeks.

 

I do think these higher doses of vitamin c are helping with cigarette cravings, because usually when I’ve tried vaping, I fail and still want to smoke as well, but this time I don’t feel that urge as much. Maybe vitamin c is helping with this.

 

I do know in the past higher doses of vitamin c in the past helped with calming the negative inner voice, while lower doses (like 1g a day), didn’t.

 

Anyway time will tell. I’ll never see if it truly healing unless I get off the smoking permanently as well as regularly taking my stack with the mega doses of vitamin c.

 

Update:

 

I’ve decided to just stick to 10g vitamin c in the morning, and forget the extra 10g in the evening. My sleep quality isn’t great, which is either the vitamin c doses, or zinc picolinate, or the coughing while sleeping. If my sleep quality doesn’t get better, I’ll go down to 5g. But I don’t want to go lower than 5g, cause I know 1g doesn’t do anything for my wound healing.

 

Update 2;

 

I’m going to drop the zinc picolinate too for now (even though I’ve already taken it this morning). Cause being tired during the day is not fun. It could also be due to the vaping though. But at one point I wasn’t getting daytime tiredness. So it’s annoying it’s back. Hopefully I’ll drop the vaping soon too. I’m sick of messing with extra minerals, just in case the zinc is causing a copper deficiency which then screws up my sleep. I’d rather only take magnesium, and the rest get from multivitamin and food.


Edited by Mr Serendipity, 31 May 2023 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2023 - 12:05 PM

I agree on official medicine that it hardly cures people as for example ssris turn men into impotents. Maybe steroids is the key to health and vit c has prooven steroidal effect. I suspect anabolics could help witb your wound as well. Anabolics are now banned in russia. I saw last olympia contest - it was disgusting with all those sintol injected freaks. I am not sure they even sell real vit c here. Perhaps some isomers. In  00s 1 gr of vit c gave energy boost. Now i don't feel anything. Of course age matters but the same with melatonin. Sigarettes with real tobacco are impossible to find but sometimes i smoke crap that they sell. I suspect smoke contains some needed substances and perhaps our bodies even need some amount of cancerogenic substances. Americans with their legal cannabis are more lucky in that aspect. There is such a phenomenon that village people become wrinkled early due to much oxygen in air while urban people are not. Another fact is that hyperventilation of lungs worsens consuption of oxygen. So co2 from smoke improves consumption of oxygen. This is just another aspect of benefits of smoke. I experimented with smoking black tea leaves. It gave flushing vascular effect as from nicotinic acid but it resulted in severe heart pain. So i stopped. Not everything can be smoked but it's worth trying different leaves. In 00s they once sold some cigarettes for lung cleaning with some hearbs from india at drugstores. I have not met any literature on substites for tobacco from local flora. Such book would be extremely handy.



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Posted 04 June 2023 - 05:32 PM

..sometimes i smoke crap that they sell. ..In 00s they once sold some cigarettes for lung cleaning with some hearbs from india at drugstores.

 

These herbal Beedies from India are still available there. I never liked them.

 

In 2012 a chronic bronchitis and COPD diagnosis (asymptomatic since) made me stop smoke anything than organic tabacco. Though short after the EU made the stupid law that tabacco can't be labeled 'organic' anymore (implying that any tabacco could be healthier). It's obvious that without all those pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, fertilizers and additives inhaled directly in the bloodstrean as with injections, its a world of a difference. So the labeled it 'original' #9 from then onward here. But I would immetiately recognize if anything changed than the labeling.



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Posted 06 June 2023 - 08:04 PM

I seem to be having a massive turn around in things this past week, let me explain.

 

1. I dropped 10g vitamin c to 5g vitamin c in the morning, to avoid any bowel tolerance issues.

 

2. I dropped the zinc picolinate to avoid tendon injuries, insomnia, and copper imbalances. I still get a normal amount of zinc from my multivitamin.

 

3. I learnt I can get a terrible sleep with this SSRI. I'll sleep long, have vivid dreams all night, and feel exhausted during the day. However if I pair it with 500mg of trytophan, then I'll get a decent enough sleep and won't feel shattered the next day. I know you're not meant to pair an SSRI with tryptophan just in case of serotonin syndrome, but it's working for me at the moment.

 

4. I've quit smoking for 7 days, and I only vaped for 2 days before quitting that too.

 

5. I made it my goal to start walking for respiratory health, weight loss, and possibly cure my snoring (though it seems to be nasal and not throat). So I've been using the treadmill everyday:

 

Steps starting June 1st:

 

1. 4,402

2. 10,146

3. 4,515

4. 7,664

5. 11,940

6. 15,083 (today) (2h30m) (morning weight 108.2kg)

 

My legs and feet have been killing. I'm also massaging and stretching them regularly. Goal is 15k steps a day consistently at some point.

 

6. My ear is healing with 5g of vitamin c still.

 

7. I'm eating a hell of a lot healthier, lots of oatmeal/porridge, chicken breast.

 

8. I'm just getting on with chores better.

 

 

I'm exhausted today after those 15k steps, but I'm hoping my muscles and body will adapt fast, where 15k doesn't become too much of a problem.

 

So it's quite a turn around for me in a week, hopefully I'll stick to it. While this is a combination of things, higher doses of vitamin c definitely help me when I can mitigate the insomnia. Because in the past I've noticed with high doses of vitamin c, a lessening of the negative inner voice which causes procrastination, more energy, and just a general healthier feeling.

 

All in all, it feels like everything is coming together after a very long time in my life, time will tell, because my old self, I get an idea, stick to it for a week or two, then completely forget about it. But I'm hoping I'm more consistent, by having a more levelled mood.

 

Anyway people should check out post 62 in this thread, that has a wealth of info on vitamin c, its neurobiology, and psychiatric disorders.



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 09:19 PM

The best way is to grow tobacco yourself if you have a land plot. Unfortunately i don't have. I liked vapouring in 2010 when strong eliquids were available in russia. Nowthey sell crap with 2mg per ml maximum which is waste of time and money. Have Chewed some nicotine gum and almost got heart attack. No euphoria at all from that gum. I guess nicotine is not suitable for me. Looking for legal euphoria causing drugs not bad for heart and libido.



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 11:14 AM

Just an update on my part.

 

I stopped taking antidepressants after 45 days. 43 days were escitalopram, 2 days were duloxetine. I just quit cold turkey. The side effects weren’t worth it. Dry throat, vivid nightmares, and no sex drive. I decided to try tryptophan to ease any withdrawals, and other than a slight depression on the first day, my mood is relativity better than it was. It’s sort of hard to tell whether the antidepressants could have made serious changes within such a short period, or the tryptophan is powerful enough to work. I honestly think it’s the latter. But my outlook feels much better and stable than before those anti depressants. Also my libido came back full swing, like daily, but I’m a bit more on the hypomanic side again, while the anti depressants levelled me out more. The only possible lasting side effect, is it still feels like I suffer from dry mouth and throat to a degree.

 

I still take 5g of vitamin c a day. My wound healing doesn’t seem any better per se. Or it’s very slowly getting there. I might have to add extra zinc again. Or experiment with higher doses of vitamin c. But I feel I can generally take 5g as a maintenance dose without bowel issues. But I’ll mess with up to 10g time to time.

 

When I was on those antidepressant they cured my ocd, hypomania, insomnia, and IBS. All of which still feel generally better now, even though I’m off them. Before I couldn’t take high doses of vitamin c because of the insomnia effect, or worry about going out and needing the toilet (though more of the former). The insomnia worry was the same with other stimulants like caffeine from tea and stuff, I felt very sensitive to them. So it feels to me that my experience on them taught me I needed more serotonin in my life, and that with taking tryptophan now, I can lessen those issues, but be in a better mood, without severe side effects. So it’s a middle ground, where I still have those issues but to a much less degree, and without the severe side effects. So SSRI’s are more powerful in some ways, but worse in others. And tryptophan doesn’t work as powerfully on some issues, but works enough without strong side effects, that make the middle ground a better option, like having a sex drive, still being able to get to sleep on higher doses of vitamin c, and feeling more like myself.

 

Anyway I feel in a better place. Goal is to continue losing weight and walk (which I need to get back in), and quit smoking again. I’m hoping if I can get down to a healthier weight my healing issues will get better.

 

Basically I take 5g of vitamin c regularly now, but I can only do that and tolerate it’s insomnia side effects, if I increase my serotonin more.


Edited by Mr Serendipity, 19 June 2023 - 11:26 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2023 - 11:46 AM

.. if I increase my serotonin more.

 

About the basic functions of vitamin C from a textbook:

 

 

Vitamin C Basic Functions
  • Collagen synthesis. Vitamin C is an essential coenzyme in collagen synthesis. Cofactor in the hydroxylation of lysine and proline, stimulation of gene-expression in fibroblasts; development, maturation and repair of connective tissue such as skin, bone, tendons ligaments, scar tissue, blood vessels and cartilage (anti-scurvy effect = ascorbic). Lack of ascorbic acid results in poorly formed connective tissue in the skin, joints, muscles, and bones.
  • Hormone production. Glucocorticoids synthesis in adrenal cortex (stress-response), and Vitamin D-hormone (calcitriol synthesis). Production of epinephrine and norepinephrine, (the hormones released by the adrenal gland in response to stress) are dependent on adequate vitamin C status.
  • Neurotransmitter metabolism. Ascorbic acid is essential for the production of norepinephrine and serotonin, two important neurotransmitters in the brain. Conversion of tryptophan in 5-hydrotryptophan (=precursor of serotonin), hydroxylation of dopamine into noradrenalin, synthesis of L-dopa.
  • Amidation of neuro-endocrinic hormones. Gastrin, CRH (corticotropin-releasing- hormone and TRH (tyreotropin-releasing-hormone).
  • Bile acid synthesis and cholesterol breakdown and excretion. The first key step in the degradation of cholesterol (also tyrosine; bile-acid-synthesis, cholesterol-7-hydroxylasis, HMG-CoA-recductasis) depends on vitamin C. Cholesterol levels in the liver and blood increase if vitamin C status is impaired.
  • Carnitine synthesis. Ascorbic acid - together with cofactors niacin, vitamin B6, lysine and methione - is essential for the formation of carnitine, an amino acid required for breakdown of fats for energy. Lack of ascorbic acid lowers levels of carnitine and reduces energy production, producing fatigue and muscle weakness.
  • Tyrosine metabolism. Synthesis and catabolism.
  • Iron absorbtion and metabolism. Vitamin C sharply increases non-heme iron absorption from diet or supplements. Raising iron transference from transferritin (transport protein) to ferritin (storage protein)-
  • Folic acid activation. To tetrahydrofolate (THF).
  • Antioxidant function. Vitamin C is the body’s primary water-soluble antioxidant. It is present in the blood, body fluids, and inside all cells and helps protect against oxidative damage by free radicals of lipids (lipid-peroxidation), proteins, nucleic acid and cell membranes. (anti-inflammatory and anti-degenerative effects, e.g. in cancers, diabetes, arthritis, cataracts and cardiovascular diseases..). Vitamin C is also important in the conversion (reduction) of iron and copper to the form in which they function as cofactors in many enzyme systems, such as reduced copper in superoxide dismutase (another antioxidant).
  • Antioxidant regeneration. Central building-block in the redox-chain of vitamin C, vitamin E, coenzym Q10 and lipoic acid and/or glutathione, Regeneration of glutathion-disulfide into glutathione.
  • Vitamin E sparing effect. Regeneration of tocopherol radicals (vitamin E radical) into the reduced, anti-oxidative active alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E).
  • Protection of folate and vitamin E from oxidation. Ascorbic acid protects folate and vitamin E from oxidation and helps maintain these vitamins in their active forms.
  • Endothelial cell protection. Raising of NO-bioavailability. (anti thrombotic and blood-lowering effect)
  • Detoxification and excretion of drugs and chemicals. Ascorbic acid helps maintain the enzyme systems in the liver that detoxify and excrete drugs and toxic environmental chemicals (such as pesticides and heavy metals). Detoxification of xenobiotika (synthesis/anti-oxidative protection of CYP 450) in the liver, excretion of toxins.
  • Antiviral and antibacterial effect. Vitamin C is important for healthy immune function. It is essential for optimum activity of white blood cells and production of the chemical mediators that direct the immune response. Lack of vitamin C sharply increases vulnerability to infection (Immunocompetence). Stimulation of the cellular (antibodies) and hormonal immune system (interferon), protection of phagocytic membranes from oxidative self-destruction (prolonged function-time of immune cells), activation of complementary systems and of chemotaxis.
  • Anti-glycation. Inhibition of protein glycosylation and AGE-formation. (e.g. HbA1C).
  • Anti-allergic. Vitamin C plays a role in controlling body and blood histamine levels (histamine degradation and mast cell stabilization), and blood histamine levels increase when vitamin C status is poor. High levels of histamine can aggravate allergies, asthma, stomach ulcers, and certain psychiatric disorders.
  • Anti-carcinogenic. Inhibition of the formation of carcinogenic nitrosamines from nitrites and secondary amins (especially of the digestive system), protection of DNA from oxidative damage.

 

 



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Posted 04 July 2023 - 09:16 AM

Wound healing doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. Like it’s better but it’s not. I just don’t end up healing, even if I take 5g vitamin c daily.

 

I actually think now, my problem may lie in vitamin d and e toxicity, so I’ve dropped these starting tomorrow.

 

Basically I’ve been getting really bad fatigue lately, and I was looking at my notes, and wrote that vitamin d was causing fatigue and to test different doses. I also got this really badly when I was megadosing last year, and stopped dosing for awhile. But even though I’m only on 10k IU daily now, I feel it’s causing fatigue, and I’ve probably got a lot stored in my body fat.

 

As for vitamin e, I’ve been taking 400 IU daily for years.

 

As getting these tests done are a hassle through the NHS, and I can’t afford to spend money right now on them, I’ll just drop vitamin d and e, and just get smaller amounts through my multivitamin. I’ll reduce my multivitamin to 1 instead of 2 as well just in case. And then continue taking the rest of my stack.

 

In other words, after messing around with zinc, and vitamin c for ages, I now think my healing issues could stem from fat soluble vitamins toxicity, most likely D and E in my case.


Edited by Mr Serendipity, 04 July 2023 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2023 - 11:45 AM

I just don’t end up healing, even if I take 5g vitamin c daily.

 

Also my experience that when reaching the therapeutic dose of vitamin C - according to Linus Pauling between 6 and 18 g/d of ascorbic acid depending on individual conditions - for considerable time, healing started only then. For me the first was a many years persistent skin rush on my back.

 

 

I actually think now, my problem may lie in vitamin d and e toxicity, so I’ve dropped these starting tomorrow.

 

Alpha tocopherol, when taking alone, might reduce gamma tocopherol. So always adviseable to supplement additionally. Along with tocotrienols, difficult to get from diet.

 

Vitamin D toxicity usually only starts with too little co-factors, like magnesium, boron, vitamin K and A. In my case was surprised that only when I reached 20.000 IU of preformed vitamin A after years (while monitoring blood levels stayed in range; which they did from initiallly deficient), infrequent retinal migraines ceased for good.

 

Only when I accidentally overshoot my 25(OH)D3 serum levels to 135 ng/dl - by too much sunbathing along with regular supplementation - the magic of healing really started. But I took extra care of all the co-factor nutrients.
 

 


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Posted 11 July 2023 - 11:07 AM

I was taking all those, including proper vitamin a from Dropi cod liver oil where they don’t reduce the retinol.

 

At the moment I'm just going to avoid A, D, and E, getting the rda amounts through my multivitamin. Though I’m still experimenting with k2 mk4 still, to see if it helps get rid of tartar on my teeth.

 

I’m currently experimenting with fruit smoothies, and I swear I feel better on them, more so than supplements, but it’s a bit too early to tell. But I’m now experimenting with limited ingredients per smoothie (75g raspberries, 75g blueberries, 1 banana, lactose free skimmed milk), rather than a range of fruit. I’m gonna try and live off 3 or 4 a day, only having 1-2 cooked eggs in the morning for the choline, as I need to lose weight anyway (currently 107.1kg)

 

Thing is, I swear my ear is healing so much better, and what should be taken into consideration, is I’ve not been taking my stack at all, including any vitamin c. I know berries have a range of phytonutrients good for you and the brain, and berries have a lot of these because they’re susceptible to fungus and need to fight it off (so I’ve heard), so maybe that’s why it’s healing. Or maybe it’s because I dropped all the fat soluble vitamins except vitamin k2mk4, and that’s why I’m healing, and feel better. Or maybe it’s because I’m in ketosis more, who knows.

 

It’s still early days, but I swear I feel more healthy, more so than when taking my stack. So i want to continue experimenting with these smoothies, and see if I can reduce parts of my stack.

 

In the future I might even add a teaspoon of ghee per smoothie, as it’s high in vitamin k2 mk4, and can replace future k2mk4 supplements. But for now I’ll try and stick to this as it’s lower calories and see if I can reduce my waistline more, plus I need to use up the supplements. Also I do plan on taking my stack, just trying to get into a smoothie routine atm.



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Posted 05 August 2023 - 09:22 PM

Myth debusted С витамином С связан один из самых крупных скандалов в истории медицины и фармакологии и один из самых стойких мифов. Жертвой аскорбиновой мистификации стали миллионы человек. Некоторые добровольно заблуждаются до сих пор.. В этот скандал были втянуты очень известные ученые, очень серьезные клиники и очень крупные фармакологические компании.


Конфликт растянулся на тридцать пять лет! И закончился Европейским судом.


Все началось в декабре 1970 года, когда знаменитый американский ученый Лайнус Полинг опубликовал статью «Эволюция и потребность в аскорбиновой кислоте». В этой работе Полинг объявил, что все прежние данные о роли витамина С и его дозировках ошибочны. Ежедневные дозы аскорбинки должны быть увеличены в 100 или даже в 200 раз. И тогда витамин С будет защищать человека от простуды, заживлять раны, поднимать иммунитет, улучшать работу мозга…
Лайнус Полинг был очень известным ученым, лауреатом двух Нобелевских премий. Первую премию – по химии - он получил в 1954 году. Вторую в 1962-ом - за мобилизацию общественного мнения против испытаний атомных и водородных бомб, это была премия мира.


Лайнус Полинг был профессиональным физиком и химиком. Но он не был ни врачом, ни биологом. И выводы Полинга о роли витамина С были построены лишь на опыте его собственной семьи, да на работе Гарольда Боурна, который еще в 1949 году предположил, что человек должен получать в сутки 4,5 грамма аскорбиновой кислоты, потому что именно такое количество витамина С получают с ежедневным рационом… гориллы.
Публикация Полинга про чудодейственную силу аскорбинки вызвала волну критики медиков и биохимиков. В ответ Полинг начал публично рекламировать витамин С, как средство для лечения и профилактики простудных заболеваний.


Возможно, через пару лет весь этот спор вокруг статьи Полинга и ажиотаж вокруг аскорбинки сошел бы на нет. Но тут Полингу несказанно повезло. В 1972 году в Сан-Франциско умерла бездетная и очень богатая вдова, которая пожертвовала все свое многомиллионное состояние на создание научного института по разработке методов продления жизни. По ее завещанию директором института был назначен Лайнус Полинг.
Таким образом с 1972 года витамин С начал не только лечить от простуды, но и продлевать жизнь.


А в 1977-ом Полинг заявил, что витамин С, если его принимать в больших дозах вместе с витамином А и витамином Е, а также с селеном и бета-каротином способен излечивать практически все смертельные болезни - от рака до СПИДа.


Пик популярности Лайнуса Полинга и его мегадоз витамина С пришелся на 1979 год, когда Полинг опубликовал книгу «Рак и витамин С». Полинг считал, что ежедневное употребление больших доз витамина С способно увеличить продолжительность жизни онкологических больных в четыре раза!
Официальная медицина США и Великобритании отнеслась к этому предсказанию Полинга весьма скептически. Но по мнению рядовых американцев, дважды Нобелевский лауреат не мог ошибаться.


По злой иронии судьбы в 1981 году жена Лайнуса Полинга – Ава-Хелен, принимавшая в последние 10 лет мегадозы витамина С, скончалась от рака. Сам Лайнус Полинг, который, к слову говоря, тоже был болен раком, намного пережил свою жену. Он умер в 1994 году в возрасте 93 лет.
После смерти Полинга пропаганда лечебных свойств витамина С несколько ослабла. В печати стали публиковаться результаты исследований негативных последствий употребления мегадоз витамина С.


Кстати, в 2008 году сам Институт Полинга был вынужден признать отсутствие серьёзных эффектов после приема мегадоз витамина С.
В 1996 году в Норвегии был принят закон, который запрещал продавать капсулы, содержавшие мегадозы аскорбиновой кислоты. За Норвегией последовали Финляндия и Германия. В этих странах запретили рекламу витаминов и перевели витамины из разряда пищевых добавок в разряд лекарств.


Это затронуло интересы множества пищевых и фармакологических фирм. Ведь продажа лекарственных препаратов, не прошедших клинические испытания, запрещена. Производители витамина С обратились в Европейский суд. Рассмотрение проблемы длилось несколько лет. 12 июля 2005 года суд вынес решение, которое Лондонская газета «Таймс» назвала «отравленной пилюлей». Продажа мегадоз витамина С была запрещена на всей территории Европейского союза.



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Posted 05 August 2023 - 09:27 PM

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Posted 08 August 2023 - 12:42 PM

 

Dies berührte die Interessen vieler Lebensmittel- und Pharmaunternehmen. Schließlich ist der Verkauf von Arzneimitteln, die klinische Studien nicht bestanden haben, verboten. Hersteller von Vitamin C legten Berufung beim Europäischen Gerichtshof ein. Die Betrachtung des Problems dauerte mehrere Jahre. Am 12. Juli 2005 erließ das Gericht ein Urteil, das die Londoner Times als „Giftpille“ bezeichnete. Der Verkauf von Megadosen Vitamin C ist in der gesamten Europäischen Union verboten.

 

I started in 2009 with high-dose ascorbic acid. 100g bottles or even 1kg of pure ascorbic acid were throughout available. About 19,-€ a kg in Supermarkets. The  RDA of 100mg with respective dosing-spoons can easily be ignored.



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Posted 24 August 2023 - 11:03 AM

Okay I've finally been able to recreate the experience I got on day 9. It all started a week an a half back when I added some stuff to my stack.

 

So originally I thought it was the megadosing vitamin c, then I thought it was the DLPA as someone mentioned they had a similar effect with DLPA. But I've experimented years with those 2 supplements with no effect. But I believe it was actually the Astaxanthin that was part of the DLPA supplement.

 

This is what I added to my stack and noticed the change:

 

1. PQQ

2. Astaxanthin, Blackcurrant Extract, Tomato Powder https://www.higherna...nd-blackcurrant

3. Meso-zeaxanthin, Lutein, Zeaxanthin, Bilberry extract 100:1 (anthocyanidins 25%] https://www.higherna...eyes/visualeyes
4. Ginkgo biloba 50:1 extract https://www.higherna...y/ginkgo-biloba
 
Now I've experimented with Gingko before for years, I only recently took it out of my stack because of a comment on reddit, and only recently added it again for the hell of it, but that's not the thing giving me the effect. It's one of the first 3, and some reason I doubt its the 3rd supplement for the eyes. 
 
And just going on my amazing experience I had on day 9 of this thread, where I was taking DLPA with Astaxanthin in it, but have extensively tried Vitamin C megadosing and DLPA long term before. I'm pretty damn sure it's the Astaxanthin.
 
And I noticed the effect the first day I took my new stack. Mood and energy go up another level which I don't usually experience. I'm way more happier in general. Doesn't mean I never get low moods. But I just feel more positive and driven, like some new brain energy, or a lift up from depression. Not hypomania, or if it is it's definitely a better feeling than usual. But generally I think it's like a lift up from depression. I know Astaxanthin crosses the BBB and works as an antioxidant there, but that's all I know so far, will have to research more on it's effects. But definitely loving life generally right now.






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