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[vined]

Orajel, on 07 March 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

Tar and high levels of carcinogenic compounds from inhaling burning matter. Another fact that people ignore: unless your buddy is growing or your heading to a dispensary, people frequently spray cannabis with pestacides. Not the healthiest thing to smoke.

New studies http://www.scientifi...rijuana-smoking
"In fact, occasional marijuana use was associated with slight increases in lung airflow rates and increases in lung volume, the study found." for anyone saying how terrible it is for the lungs to smoke weed, sorry, but it appears that's a no.

[kevinseven11]

The inhaled carcinogens are potentially bad for the cardiovascular system though. Some studies propose this is whats behind cannabis ED. My belief is Canna ED is from a couple factors combined.
Marijuana is not tobacco, were not going to see major damage (your study says it helps lungs). Nicotine constricts lungs, marijuana dilates the blood vessels (used for asthma).
Anybody out there able to obtain research papers?? This super important.

[MattJ]

I used to smoke daily... but it made me feel "dumbed down" and lack the motivation to do nearly anything so I stopped.  I feel that life is much better without it, even if it were used occasionally.

[Mace_Windu]

dasheenster, on 06 April 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

THC stays in your system for a long time. It's not true that all of it gets metabolized instantly when a lot of it gets trapped momentarily in fats w/o enzymes.
http://www.idmu.co.u...tcan.htm#_edn10

True, it is fat soluble so gets trapped in adipose tissues and does not wash out as easily as a water soluble metabolite would.

I quit cannabis on 04March. Had a urine test by my MD on the 12th of March that tested positive for cannabinoids. I will be going for another urinalysis soon (maybe even today...) and will report back on if I am now "clear". The interesting thing to see will be the drop in cannabinoid (metabolite?) levels I've experienced in the last month.

While I don't know my BMI, I exercise regularly (7 hours of Pilates weekly) and just returned from 6 days hard - good that is :-) - skiing in Whistler, skiing black and double-black diamond runs in moderate to deep powder on steep to steeper slopes. How steep? One day my average grade was 50 degrees. I expect i should have burned off alot of fat/lipids but we'll see once the test is done.

[dasheenster]

As far as I can tell, no matter what you do, the metabolites clear out very slowly. It seems bad to take large quantities of supplements during a "detox" phase, since many will likely drag THC around the body, as well as interfere/compete with liver metabolism, and/or kidney/intestinal function. Exercise, a moderate amount of food and water seems to be the surest bet. There are other factors you can't directly change, like your body type, but a lack of exercise and fluids is why most people don't detox quickly. It is also necessary to stop exercising prior to tests and to dilute your urine by consuming large quantities of water. This will probably get you below the 50 ng/dL level, which will stop them from sending it to a lab for mass spectrometry (often GC-MS). Depending upon their body type, chronic users can clean out (< 20 ng/dL in urine) within 10-40 days if they stick to this routine and abstain.

I don't know if cannabis is the best or healthiest drug, but I can say with about 85% confidence that drug tests for it waste more money than they save via cutting "unproductive workers".

Edited by dasheenster, 11 April 2012 - 07:09 PM.

[Mace_Windu]

Fortunately the vast majority of companies do not drug test in Canada. But I'm not too concerned with about testing clean so i will continue stacking. I'm more curious how long it will take to flush out of my system. I've signed up for a luminosity account, kinda worried to post my scores around here, I suspect there are lots of 700+ folks in this forum...

Since brain tissue is "fatty", there's a good chance cannabinoids could accumulate there no? I may try to dig up some papers on this tonight.

No argument with your final point. Alcohol is on balance probably more destructive - a 26oz bottle of hard liquor could give some people alcohol poisoning and maybe even cause death, certainly 40oz of hard liquor could kill you if you drink it fast enough in one sitting. Not to mention cirrhosis of the liver. Cannabis is relatively benign in comparison but this is definitely straying off topic and into the realm of politics ;-)