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#1 Odestoteles

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:45 PM


FYI:

http://www.reddit.co...dying_young_im/

Her first video blog entry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW3peOK1X9E

...and the page where the donation link is:

http://suozlogs.wordpress.com/

Thanks so much for any help. Spread the story, donate, anything.

Once again, thanks.
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#2 Droplet

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:26 PM

Similar thread already here: http://www.longecity...e-fighting-for/

I wish her all the best. I donated.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:13 PM

Ah, OK, thanks for the info and the donation.
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#4 Shannon Vyff

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:42 AM

The Venturists are setting up a Cryonics Charity Fund for her, I'll post the details when it is up.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:52 PM

I donated 50$ and I really hope that this girl will have a chance to live a longer, happier and healthier life in the future.

Cryonics isn't still an exact science... but it's a very rational attempt to offer an alternative to a sure death.
Or in the worst scenario, a compassionate way to preserve a body.

I am moderately optimistic, because I never undervalue the progress of medical science.
And the concept of "death" necessarily changes through time.


A cardiac arrest, before 1950s, was one-way ticket to oblivion (or afterlife, if you are a believer).
After the invention of defibrillators and reperfusion theraphy a lot of people was "resuscitated" even after 6 or 7 minutes without heartbeat.

And there is another reason because I FEEL that this decision could be very wise.

The story of this girl is tragic; she's just 23 and no one should die so soon; but her body and brain are young and "strong", despite the aggressive cancer.
Completely different than a 90 years old guy with Alzheimer, cryopreserved after decades of aging and disease.

This means that she will not need a rejuvenation therapy in order to be reanimated... and that she will have a significantly higher rate of success.

Edited by mikeb80, 23 August 2012 - 02:04 PM.

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#6 Logic

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:16 PM

Why are we just trying to raise money to preserve this poor girl when we could be giving her advice on how to quite possibly cure herself!?

Antiparasitic mebendazole shows survival benefit in 2 preclinical models of glioblastoma multiforme:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21764822

There is plenty more pubmed info on Mebendazole and it has been discussed here too:
http://www.longecity...hl__mebendazole

I have this here at home and its still available here. (South Africa)
I'd be more than happy to donate a couple of bottles of this to here If she cant get it there.

We also know about Circumin, Resveratrol, Saikosapin A, IP6, etc. etc. as discussed all over this forum.
Here for axample:
http://www.longecity...ncer-knowledge/

Research on substances that together have a good chance of curing her is something else we could easily donate IMHO.

http://www.denvernat...ioblastoma.html

http://www.healingca...multiforme.html

Edited by Logic, 23 August 2012 - 10:17 PM.

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#7 Logic

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:00 PM

Anti-tumor effect of beta-elemene in glioblastoma cells depends on p38 MAPK activation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18442668

Combination treatment of glioblastoma multiforme cell lines with the anti-malarial artesunate and the epidermal growth factor receptor tyrosine kinase inhibitor OSI-774.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18442668

Berberine induces G1 arrest and apoptosis in human glioblastoma T98G cells through mitochondrial/caspases pathway.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18379040

http://www.longecity...ses-bbb-for-gb/
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#8 mikeb80

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 12:18 PM

Thank you Logic.

It's true...
the best option is to do everything possible to cure her cancer, hoping that it's not already too late.
Cryonics is an extreme solution, but still a worthy cause, if everything else fails.

Edited by mikeb80, 24 August 2012 - 12:24 PM.

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#9 Logic

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 12:54 PM

Firstly: My apologies for wording my post so... badly.
Perhaps the Methylene Blue is turning me into an ass?
(Thx Mikeb80)

I posted the following on Reddit and hope I have done the right thing:

Hi Kim

Plz read the info in this link: Antiparasitic mebendazole shows survival benefit in 2 preclinical models of glioblastoma multiformehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21764822

Also do further searches for 'mebendazole cancer' on that pubmed site. There is some VERY interesting info on it!
Now Mebendazole is the active ingredient in cheap, over the counter drugs people buy for worms. It goes by the name of Vermox/Ovex/Antiox/Pripsen.

NB: Soon after the studies above came out; Mebendazole stopped being sold in America... I dont know where you are from, but it is still available here. (South Africa)

Before dashing out to look for it, pz listen to my thoery:

As you are young; the chances are good that your cancer is being caused by a parasite or virus or something infectious.
(If you doubt that a virus can cause cancer consider the fact that you now get a vaccine against human papilloma virus (HPV) to prevent cervical cancer.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine)

So virii get into your healthy cells and change their DNA to do their own nefarious bidding. They add their DNA to that of the cell. This basically changes the cell into something completely different: A factory for reproducing itself so that it can infect other cells... etc. etc.

These changed cells are quite often called cancer. Now what happens when you take one thing to kill these virii/cancer is that most of them die, but there are always one or two mutated cells left that are immune to whatever you take. These immune cells then reproduce and prolifirate and you end up with a new, slightly different cancer, that is immune to whatever you were taking.
The way to deal with this is to attach the cancer from many different angles, killing it by many different means, so that any mutations that may survive one medication are killed by another.

So now the question becomes What else should I take besides the Mebendazole!???
There are a number of things I have found so far:

Anti-tumor effect of beta-elemene in glioblastoma cells depends on p38 MAPK activation.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18442668

Combination treatment of glioblastoma multiforme cell lines with the anti-malarial artesunate and the epidermal growth factor receptor tyrosine kinase inhibitor OSI-774.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18442668

Berberine induces G1 arrest and apoptosis in human glioblastoma T98G cells through mitochondrial/caspases pathway.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18379040

Demethoxycurcumin Retards Cell Growth and Induces Apoptosis in Human Brain Malignant Glioma GBM 8401 Cells.http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2012/396573/

NB: Its important to put together a stack of substances that do not negate each other. Here is where I am out of my depth.
What I suggest you do is register with the forums at Longecity where your predicament is already being discussed:http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/58268-a-terminally-ill-student-asks-for-donations-to-afford-her-own-cryopreservation/

Start a topic called Plz help me with an anti cancer stack The forum is populated by biologists and scientists and other well informed people and nearly every post has links to published medical research. The community will help you to come up with a stack that will attack your cancer from many different directions without the substances cancelling each other out or other nasty side effects.

With any luck this may just kill it completely, but should at the least give you more time.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:03 PM

No need to apologize Logic, because you're sharing your knowledge with the purpose to save / prolongate a life.
This is a noble attempt, TOTALLY in the spirit of this forum and community.

Kim will be free to follow or not your suggestions... but I think you did the right thing contacting her.
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Posted 25 August 2012 - 02:46 AM

The official Venturist charity fund for Kim is now live--please support it, any donation amount helps: http://venturist.inf...zi-charity.html
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:38 AM

Does anyone have any contact details for Kim?
I want to get Mebendazole to her so plz PM me if you do.
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