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#1 blood

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:25 AM


The highest silicon water I can find locally is Fiji water which provides 92 mg/L silica (~45 mg/L silicon).


http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22976072


J Alzheimers Dis. 2013;33(2):423-30. doi: 10.3233/JAD-2012-121231.

Silicon-rich mineral water as a non-invasive test of the 'aluminum hypothesis' in Alzheimer's disease.

Davenward S, Bentham P, Wright J, Crome P, Job D, Polwart A, Exley C.

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The Birchall Centre, Lennard-Jones Laboratories, Keele University, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK.

Abstract

There has been a plausible link between human exposure to aluminum and Alzheimer's disease for several decades. We contend that the only direct and ethically acceptable experimental test of the 'aluminum hypothesis', which would provide unequivocal data specific to the link, is to test the null hypothesis that a reduction in the body burden of aluminum to its lowest practical limit would have no influence upon the incidence, progression, or severity of Alzheimer's disease. Herein we are testing the hypothesis that silicon-rich mineral waters can be used as non-invasive methods to reduce the body burden of aluminum in individuals with Alzheimer's disease and a control group consisting of their carers and partners. We have shown that drinking up to 1 L of a silicon-rich mineral water each day for 12 weeks facilitated the removal of aluminum via the urine in both patient and control groups without any concomitant affect upon the urinary excretion of the essential metals, iron and copper. We have provided preliminary evidence that over 12 weeks of silicon-rich mineral water therapy the body burden of aluminum fell in individuals with Alzheimer's disease and, concomitantly, cognitive performance showed clinically relevant improvements in at least 3 out of 15 individuals. This is a first step in a much needed rigorous test of the 'aluminum hypothesis of Alzheimer's disease' and a longer term study involving many more individuals is now warranted.

PMID: 22976072 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Commentary from Nutra Ingredients:

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Study details

Exley and his colleagues studied the effects of a silicon-rich mineral water (Spritzer, containing 35 mg/L (ppm) total silicon) in 15 individuals with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) who were asked to drink one litre of the water each day for 12 weeks.

The team found that after the 12 week period the team reported that the ‘burden’ of aluminium - measured using urinary excretion – was significantly reduced.

In parallel with this reduction in body burden of aluminium, Exley and his team reported some ‘remarkable’ effects on cognitive function in the individuals with AD – with eight out of 15 showing no deterioration in cognitive abilities over the period of the study. Three of these eight, in fact showed clinically-relevant improvements in cognitive functions, they said.


Article from Daily Mail (!) contains some useful tips for selecting a high-silicon water:

http://www.dailymail...-aluminium.html


Drinking a litre of mineral water every day 'can prevent Alzheimer's memory loss'

Silicon-rich mineral water can help remove aluminium which is linked to dementia

By Leon Watson

PUBLISHED: 06:01 GMT, 12 October 2012 | UPDATED: 13:25 GMT, 12 October 2012

Drinking a litre of mineral water every day can prevent cognitive decline in Alzheimer's sufferers by removing aluminium from their bodies, a study found yesterday...

Patients who took part in the new study drank a litre of mineral water every day for 13 weeks - and the majority showed no further signs of cognitive decline.

One patient saw the amount of aluminium in their body drop by 70 per cent and three participants actually showed an improvement in their mental health.

Professor Christopher Exley, of Keele University, who led the research, said the 'surprising' results gave hope to findings ways to combat the devastating disease.

He said: 'There were two parts to our research. The first is that drinking silicon water does remove aluminium from the body.

'When you drink silicon-rich mineral water aluminium throughout the body is gathered up into the blood and then excreted through the urine.

'It seems to purge the aluminium from the body. We now know we can use this silicon-rich "therapy" water to reduce aluminium.

'The second part of our research was looking at the cognitive abilities of people with Alzheimer's and whether these changed as the aluminium was reduced.

Fiji Mineral Water has high levels of silicon which is believed to help prevent Alzheimer's by flushing aluminium out of the body

'The most interesting thing was that we did see this potential relationship between the removal of aluminium and the positive improvement in cognitive function.

'It is highly unlikely to see changes over such a short period of time so the fact we saw changes in cognitive ability was quite a surprise.

'We saw improvement in some cases, cognitive function remained the same in others and it did decrease in others.'

Previous studies have linked the prescence of aluminium with plaques and tangles - two kinds of microscopic damage - in the brains of people with Alzheimer’s disease.

Researchers examined the aluminium levels of 15 sufferers and their carers or partners - 15 women and 15 men in total.

'While we know a huge amount, we don’t have an effective drug and I think anything that shows some promise should stand a chance of being investigated.'

Professor Exley

The brand of water used in the study - published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease - was a Malaysian water called 'Spritzer', which has high levels of the chemical element silicon.

Brands on sale in Britain with similar levels include Volvic and Fiji water.

Scientists asked the participants to drink a litre of Spritzer water every day for 13 weeks and measured their aluminium levels at the end.

The patients saw a huge reduction in their aluminium levels, with a number showing drops of 50, 60 and 70 per cent.

Participants were also assessed using the ADAS-Cog (Alzheimer Disease Assessment Scale-Cognitive) method, which is a recognised 11-part test.

The tests include memory questions and ‘simple’ tasks such as drawing a clock face - people with a deteriorating function may struggle to put the numbers in the right place.

After 13 weeks, cognitive function is eight of the 15 Alzheimer’s sufferers had not deteriorated - and actually improved 'substantially' in three.

Professor Exley added: 'We now want to carry out further research to see if we could reduce the risk of Alzheimer's who seem to be predisposed to it.

'They are usually aged between 40 and 60. If we could get people to include silicon-rich water in their diet in the future and reduce their risk, it would be a great.'

The Spritzer mineral water contains 35mg of silicon per litre.

However, Professor Exley says waters sold - and easily available - in Britain also contain high levels of silicon.

He said: 'Volvic has high levels of silicon, around 20mg/litre. Fiji water has approximately 45mg/litre.

'There is a simple equation you can do to work out the silicon levels in water. If you look at the back of the bottle, it will often state a mg/litre analysis.

'On that list should be "silica", which is silicon with oxygen. If you divide that number by two you get the approximate value of silicon in that water.'

He added that it is more effective to drink the water over a shorter period, such as an hour, rather than sipping it all at once, in order to remove aluminium.

'The major challenge is that we don’t have an effective drug for Alzheimer’s. This is a real tragedy,' Professor Exley said.

'While we know a huge amount, we don’t have an effective drug and I think anything that shows some promise should stand a chance of being investigated.

'I think this deserves a chance.'

The research is published in the Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease Volume 33, No. 2.


Questions

1) would a silicon supplement (horsetail, bamboo, biosil) provide similar benefits?


2) I'm having trouble parsing this: "it is more effective to drink the water over a shorter period, such as an hour, rather than sipping it all at once".

Edited by blood, 15 September 2013 - 09:27 AM.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:04 AM

Snippets from interesting blog post - worth reading in full:

http://gaia-health.c...zheimers-study/


Silicon-Rich Water May Help Prevent Alzheimer’s: Study

by Heidi Stevenson

Christopher Exley is a leading scientist on the issue of aluminum toxicity. He refers to this time as the Aluminum Age. It’s everywhere, and not just in construction, but also in a host of daily-use products, such as deodorants, and is commonly found in vaccinations. As a result, aluminum is routinely found in the human body, though it has no metabolic role—and it’s strongly implicated as a cause of Alzheimer’s disease (AD). Clearly, if you can leach it from your body, you are giving yourself better odds of avoiding that devasting disease, which steals our golden years and puts so much stress on our families.

Dr. Exley’s latest study is designed to determine whether silicon dissolved in water (silicic acid) can chelate aluminum from the body and whether it might have any harmful effects by chelating too much of other metals. In an e-mail exchange, he informed me that:

These studies were actually designed to help us to understand how the body ‘handles’ silicon. Previous research has compared the effectiveness of silicon-deficient mineral water to remove aluminium via the urine and these did not show any effect...


A preliminary study had already determined that nonsilicon-rich water does nothing to help chelate aluminum from the body. So this study was the next step. It compared people diagnosed with Alzheimer’s to those without such a diagnosis. Dr. Exley stated of his latest study:

The non-AD group can be considered as an age and gender-matched control for how our body handles silicon, with subsequent information on urinary excretion of alumininum, iron and copper.


Herein it was demonstrated unequivocally that regular drinking of a silicon-rich mineral water increased the urinary excretion of Si and Al without concomitant effects on Fe and Cu. These effects were observed for individuals with AD and for a similar group of individuals without AD...


In general, women in the study excreted more aluminum than did men. This may be related to the fact that Alzheimer’s disease is significantly more prevalent in women than in men. It is probable that women come into more direct contact with aluminum in personal care products and cosmetics. This might explain why Alzheimer’s is more prevalent in women than men, but it could also be that women are simply more sensitive to aluminum. In any case, it’s clear that aluminum toxicity and Alzheimer’s are not the same in men and women, and their ability to excrete it may also differ...

Longer term studies are now required to show that any reductions in the body burden of Al can be further improved and sustained and that any cognitive benefits are similarly long-lived...


Chris Exley has previously discussed other sources of silicon. However, he believes that it’s more biologically available when suspended in water as silicic acid, as he stated here:

The critical thing about silicon in drinking water is that it is immediately biologically available and will be absorbed across the gut and into the blood. All other sources of silicic acid are much worse including horsetail which is composed of silica not silicic acid...


Therefore, the best way to obtain quantities that can safely and rapidly leach aluminum from your body is through drinking silicon-rich mineral water.

Dr. Exley informed me that there is a best way to imbibe the water:

If the water is drunk over as short a period of time as possible then this will ensure that the level of silicon (silicic acid) in the blood will rise to a level where the removal of aluminium via the kidney and urine is facilitated. Thus two drinks of 0.5L should be more effective than 10 drinks of 0.1L...


Getting a bolus of silicon into your system is the best we we now have to chelate aluminum. Therefore, it’s best to drink at least half the bottle at once to insure a significant blood level of silicon to help your body leach aluminum.

Finding silicon-rich mineral water is not difficult. The brands Fiji, Spritzer, and Volvic contain significant amounts of silicon, but they aren’t the only ones...

Since you need to drink plenty of water anyway, why not make sure that it contains silica, which may be able to stave off that thief of your sunset years, Alzheimer’s disease?


Edited by blood, 15 September 2013 - 10:31 AM.


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#3 rubegoldberg

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 01:21 PM

If aluminum is your concern, note that Malic acid chelates Al.

It is suggested that a Magnesium-deficient diet may increase the amount of aluminum taken up and stored by the body and that
Magnesium Malate combats excessive aluminum accumulation.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 04:28 PM

Let's not neglect that other rich source of silicon...

http://news.cnet.com...449270-247.html

"Researchers at UC Davis say that silicon, the most common metalloid and a known booster of bone-mineral density, is highly "bioavailable" when consumed in beer."
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Posted 15 September 2013 - 04:56 PM

If aluminum is your concern, note that Malic acid chelates Al.

It is suggested that a Magnesium-deficient diet may increase the amount of aluminum taken up and stored by the body and that
Magnesium Malate combats excessive aluminum accumulation.


I thought of that too. Instead of testing people with silicon rich water, I'd think it'd be easier to just give them some mag malate as a test.

Or feed them lots of apples...

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:25 AM

horsetail herb tea! -- delish

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:38 AM

"Researchers at UC Davis say that silicon, the most common metalloid and a known booster of bone-mineral density, is highly "bioavailable" when consumed in beer."


Yes. A typical beer contains 5.6mg orthosilicic acid, the same kind of silicon as in BioSil/Jarrosil:
http://inhumanexperi...experiment.html

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:04 AM

I like Fiji water. It's probably true that good minerals block out bad ones and the lack of good minerals invites bad ones.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:40 AM

If aluminum is your concern, note that Malic acid chelates Al.

It is suggested that a Magnesium-deficient diet may increase the amount of aluminum taken up and stored by the body and that
Magnesium Malatecombats excessive aluminum accumulation.


Aluminum is not necessarily a worry for me.

However, do I live in an older apartment building with deteriorating copper pipes; and I haven't worked out a filtering solution yet. I drink bottled water for the time being. For those who drink bottled water, it might make sense to choose one that is high in silicon.

In Exley's small study, not only did silicon rich water reduce aluminum burden in people, it also appeared to stay or reverse the course of Alzheimer's in a subset of patients. As far as I can tell, there are no similar human findings for malic acid or magnesium malate. (I do take magnesium in malate, glycinate, and taurate forms, though).

horsetail herb tea! -- delish


This was my thought - wouldn't a horsetail/bamboo product be a more economical approach? Exley, the researcher, says:

http://gaia-health.c...zheimers-study/

The critical thing about silicon in drinking water is that it is immediately biologically available and will be absorbed across the gut and into the blood. All other sources of silicic acid are much worse including horsetail which is composed of silica not silicic acid...


Not sure about BioSil/ Jarrowsil.

Apparently it is important to consume at least 0.5 litres at once:

http://gaia-health.c...zheimers-study/

If the water is drunk over as short a period of time as possible then this will ensure that the level of silicon (silicic acid) in the blood will rise to a level where the removal of aluminium via the kidney and urine is facilitated. Thus two drinks of 0.5L should be more effective than 10 drinks of 0.1L...


Edited by blood, 16 September 2013 - 02:55 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:54 AM

"Researchers at UC Davis say that silicon, the most common metalloid and a known booster of bone-mineral density, is highly "bioavailable" when consumed in beer."


Yes. A typical beer contains 5.6mg orthosilicic acid, the same kind of silicon as in BioSil/Jarrosil:
http://inhumanexperi...experiment.html



Anyone know the difference between silicic acid, and orthosilicic acid?

From your link:

According to one study, beer contains a little less than 20 mg of silicon per liter on average, regardless of the type or geographic origin of the beer. The actual amount varies between 9 and 39 mg per liter.


Looks like Fiji water has more silicon than most beers.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 07:06 AM

a list of silicate rich waters, especially for europeans

http://www.mineralwa...al=SiO2&lang=en
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

Looks like Fiji water has more silicon than most beers.


You're right.

Edited by ta5, 16 September 2013 - 01:14 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:59 PM

In Europe you can also buy drinkable silica gel in health shops (Silicea brand, from Germany) which has 2.8g silica per 100ml...recommended dosage is 15ml per day so about 200mg silicon.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 10:03 PM

In Europe you can also buy drinkable silica gel in health shops (Silicea brand, from Germany) which has 2.8g silica per 100ml...recommended dosage is 15ml per day so about 200mg silicon.


2800mg/100ml * 15ml = 420mg silica ~= 200mg elemental silicon.

That's a lot of silica... is that safe?

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 12:15 PM

In Europe you can also buy drinkable silica gel in health shops (Silicea brand, from Germany) which has 2.8g silica per 100ml...recommended dosage is 15ml per day so about 200mg silicon.


2800mg/100ml * 15ml = 420mg silica ~= 200mg elemental silicon.

That's a lot of silica... is that safe?



Curious to know as well. A bamboo extract from swanson is 210mg of silica.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:29 PM

I have a bambo extrat that is 40% silica. I dont know if it is the orthosilicic acid form or elemental silica. I have seen different data and im not sure. Anyone know?

So a good aluminum detox protocol would be Malic acid, citric acid, and silica.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:03 PM

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869150700227X

Role of beer as a possible protective factor in preventing Alzheimer’s disease

M.J. González-Muñoz, , A. Peña, I. Meseguer


Abstract

Aluminium (Al), a neurotoxin, has lately been implicated as one of the possible causal factors contributing to Alzheimer’s disease. Because silicon (Si) intake can affect the bioavailability of aluminium, the object of the present study was to assess whether moderate beer consumption might, as a source of dietary Si, affect the toxicokinetics of Al and thereby limit that element’s neurotoxicity.

The results obtained confirmed that at moderately high levels of beer intake the Si present in the beer was able to reduce Al uptake in the digestive tract and thus was able to slow the accumulation of this metal in the body, brain tissue included.

In consequence, moderate beer consumption, due to its content in bioavailability silicon, possibly affording a protective factor for preventing Alzheimer’s disease, could perhaps be taken into account as a component of the dietary habits of the population.

Keywords
Beer; Aluminium; Silicon; Neurotoxicity



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:10 PM

http://www.sciencedi...278691507005182

Beer consumption reduces cerebral oxidation caused by aluminum toxicity by normalizing gene expression of tumor necrotic factor alpha and several antioxidant enzymes

M.J. Gonzalez-Muñoza, I. Meseguera, M.I. Sanchez-Reusb, A. Schultzc, R. Oliveroc, J. Benedíd, F.J. Sánchez-Munizc, ,

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Aluminum (Al)-induced neurotoxicity is well known and different salts of aluminum have been reported to accelerate oxidative damage to biomolecules. The present study has examined whether silicon consumed in the form of silicic acid or beer could potentially inhibit aluminum toxicity in the brain. Male mice were administered with Al(NO3)3 orally at a dose of 450 mg/kg/day in drinking water for 3 month. Experimental mice were given Al(NO3)3 along with 50 mg/L of silicic acid or with 0.5 ml/day of beer. Al brain levels in the Al group were four times higher than those of control mice while silicic acid and beer group values were 40% lower than those of the Al group. We have observed that beer prevented accumulation of lipid damage significantly, which resulted from aluminum intake. Decline in the expression of mRNA of endogenous antioxidant enzymes associated with aluminum administration was also inhibited by beer and silicic acid. The tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNFα) RNA expression was normalized in silicic acid and beer groups. Very high and significant correlations were found for the different parameters tested suggesting that moderate consumption of beer, due to its silicon content, effectively protects against the neurotoxic effects of aluminum.

Keywords
Aluminum; Antioxidant enzymes; Beer; Brain; Silicon; TNFα


Edited by blood, 29 September 2013 - 12:14 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

Wikipedia:

A study that followed subjects for 15 years found that higher levels of silica in water appeared to decrease the risk of dementia. The study found an association between an increase of 10 milligram-per-day of the intake of silica in drinking water with a decreased risk of dementia of 11%.[44]


http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/169/4/489

Aluminum and Silica in Drinking Water and the Risk of Alzheimer's Disease or Cognitive Decline: Findings From 15-Year Follow-up of the PAQUID Cohort

Virginie Rondeau, Hélène Jacqmin-Gadda, Daniel Commenges, Catherine Helmer and Jean-François Dartigues
Correspondence to Dr. Virginie Rondeau, Division of Biostatistics, Unité 897, Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, Bordeaux F-33076, France (e-mail: virginie.rondeau@isped.u-bordeaux2.fr).

Received June 19, 2008.
Accepted October 6, 2008.

Abstract

The authors examined associations between exposure to aluminum or silica from drinking water and risk of cognitive decline, dementia, and Alzheimer's disease among elderly subjects followed for 15 years (1988–2003). They actively searched for incident cases of dementia among persons aged 65 years or over living in 91 civil drinking-water areas in southern France. Two measures of exposure to aluminum were assessed: geographic exposure and individual exposure, taking into account daily consumption of tap water and bottled water. A total of 1,925 subjects who were free of dementia at baseline and had reliable water assessment data were analyzed. Using random-effects models, the authors found that cognitive decline with time was greater in subjects with a higher daily intake of aluminum from drinking water (≥0.1 mg/day, P = 0.005) or higher geographic exposure to aluminum. Using a Cox model, a high daily intake of aluminum was significantly associated with increased risk of dementia. Conversely, an increase of 10 mg/day in silica intake was associated with a reduced risk of dementia (adjusted relative risk = 0.89, P = 0.036). However, geographic exposure to aluminum or silica from tap water was not associated with dementia. High consumption of aluminum from drinking water may be a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:06 PM

Very informative review article - full text:


http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/10/1/2

Biological and therapeutic effects of ortho-silicic acid and some ortho-silicic acid-releasing compounds: New perspectives for therapy

Lela Munjas Jurkić1, Ivica Cepanec2, Sandra Kraljević Pavelić1* and Krešimir Pavelić1

Nutrition & Metabolism 2013, 10:2 doi:10.1186/1743-7075-10-2

Abstract

Silicon (Si) is the most abundant element present in the Earth's crust besides oxygen. However, the exact biological roles of silicon remain unknown. Moreover, the ortho-silicic acid (H4SiO4), as a major form of bioavailable silicon for both humans and animals, has not been given adequate attention so far. Silicon has already been associated with bone mineralization, collagen synthesis, skin, hair and nails health atherosclerosis, Alzheimer disease, immune system enhancement, and with some other disorders or pharmacological effects. Beside the ortho-silicic acid and its stabilized formulations such as choline chloride-stabilized ortho-silicic acid and sodium or potassium silicates (e.g. M2SiO3; M= Na,K), the most important sources that release ortho-silicic acid as a bioavailable form of silicon are: colloidal silicic acid (hydrated silica gel), silica gel (amorphous silicon dioxide), and zeolites. Although all these compounds are characterized by substantial water insolubility, they release small, but significant, equilibrium concentration of ortho-silicic acid (H4SiO4) in contact with water and physiological fluids. Even though certain pharmacological effects of these compounds might be attributed to specific structural characteristics that result in profound adsorption and absorption properties, they all exhibit similar pharmacological profiles readily comparable to ortho-silicic acid effects. The most unusual ortho-silicic acid-releasing agents are certain types of zeolites, a class of aluminosilicates with well described ion(cation)-exchange properties. Numerous biological activities of some types of zeolites documented so far might probably be attributable to the ortho-silicic acid-releasing property. In this review, we therefore discuss biological and potential therapeutic effects of ortho-silicic acid and ortho-silicic acid -releasing silicon compounds as its major natural sources.

Keywords: Silicon; Orthosilicic acid; Zeolites; Therapeutic and biological effects


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Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:02 PM

I did the Great Plains Laboratory hair elements test which indicated that I have elevated aluminium. To confirm I did the 24 hour Alumium urine test which indicated 71mcg/L of aluminium.

 

The GPL report mentions:

Aluminium can be effectively complexed and excreted with silicon (J. Environ. Pathol. Toxicol. Oncol., 13(3): 205-7, 1994). A complex of
malic acid and Mg has been reported to be quite effective in lowering Al levels (DDI clients).

I'll take ortho-silicilic acid and malic acid for a year or so and repeat the urine test.

 

I'll also take Deferoxamine injectable. Feralex-G seems to be more effective and also works effectively together with Deferoxamine, but I don't think its sold in Europe.

 

The following paper has a good review on chelating aluminium with Deferoxamine.

 

The role of chelation in the treatment of other metal poisonings

J Med Toxicol. 2013 Dec;9(4):355-69. doi: 10.1007/s13181-013-0343-6.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24113858

 

 

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 10:07 PM

I did the Great Plains Laboratory hair elements test which indicated that I have elevated aluminium. To confirm I did the 24 hour Alumium urine test which indicated 71mcg/L of aluminium.

 

The GPL report mentions:

Aluminium can be effectively complexed and excreted with silicon (J. Environ. Pathol. Toxicol. Oncol., 13(3): 205-7, 1994). A complex of
malic acid and Mg has been reported to be quite effective in lowering Al levels (DDI clients).

I'll take ortho-silicilic acid and malic acid for a year or so and repeat the urine test.

 

I'll also take Deferoxamine injectable. Feralex-G seems to be more effective and also works effectively together with Deferoxamine, but I don't think its sold in Europe.

 

The following paper has a good review on chelating aluminium with Deferoxamine.

 

The role of chelation in the treatment of other metal poisonings

J Med Toxicol. 2013 Dec;9(4):355-69. doi: 10.1007/s13181-013-0343-6.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24113858

 

Where is the AI in your diet coming from?

 



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Posted 03 December 2015 - 07:11 AM

That's whats puzzling me... I've been drinking filtered tap water for over 20 years, I don't eat all that cheese, I don't use aluminium pots for cooking... The levels are probably too high to originate from toothpaste, shower gels, deodorants or other hygiene products.

 

I believe it must be from my daily supplements or from daily the protein powders I use.



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Posted 03 December 2015 - 09:54 AM

http://www.bfr.bund....nium-intake.pdf



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Posted 03 December 2015 - 10:44 AM

 

Thank you for the report. I don't believe my elevated aluminium can be attributed solely to deodorant use (its a fairly large amount), but anyway I had already bought non-aluminium containing deodorant earlier this week.

 

I'm also going to buy some aluminium test strips to test the protein powders and vegetable powders I consume daily.



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Posted 19 May 2016 - 08:42 PM

Five months later, my aluminium is 3 times lower.

 

Supplementation for 5 months:

- 2x 250mg silica in the morning empty stomach; 500mg total; bamboo (tabashir); Lindens brand

- 3x 9mg silica in the morning empty stomach; 2x 9mg at night; 45mg total; vegetal orthosilicic acid; Flora brand

- 3x 800mg malic acid in the morning empty stomach; 2x 800mg at night; 4000mg total; Nature's Life brand

 

Sources of aluminium I might have been in contact with:

- processed cheese (I eat lots of cheese, all processed cheese has aluminium added)

- water (aluminium is used at treatment plants, I tested the water for aluminium, but it came out negative which means nothing because it could have been a temporary issue)

- personal higyene products

- whey powder (whey is a subproduct of cheese, the question is: are the aluminium salts added to the cheese before or after whey is produced?)

 

I'll keep taking some silica in the long run and repeat the tests within a year or so.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:05 AM

(There's a typo in one of my previous posts: my aluminium went down from 126mcg to 31mcg in 5 months using the above regimen, about 4 times lower)



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:48 PM

I've use this periodically
http://www.iherb.com...CFYqPfgodUO8Iyg

But only at half dose most of the time. It seems to paradoxically dry out my mouth, even diluted in a quart of water.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 02:01 PM

mrs thats all great but its hard to say which helped since you mixed several things, could have been better testing less and knowing for sure which works best? also, instead of wasting money for supplements, wouldnt a normal avoidance of products giving you high aluminium levels for the next 5 months eventually clean you naturally anyway?



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 03:05 PM

An easy cheap way of creating orthosilicic acid rich water is to combine food grade diatomaceous earth with water. Over time, the water reacts with the diatomaceous earth to create orthosilicic acid.

Food grade diatomaceous earth is cheap and safe. It can also be used to remove intestinal parasites.





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