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#121 APBT

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:39 PM

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Posted Yesterday, 06:45 PM

MikeDC, on 12 May 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:snapback.png

Basis users be warned. ChromaDex has cut off supply of Niagen to ELYSIUM.
The quality of Nicotinamide Riboside inside Basis in the future will not be the same as before.
The big order they placed last year should be running out soon.

did they give a reason for doing that? 

 



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:43 PM

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Posted Yesterday, 07:02 PM

jjnz, on 12 May 2017 - 6:45 PM, said:snapback.png

 

MikeDC, on 12 May 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:snapback.png

Basis users be warned. ChromaDex has cut off supply of Niagen to ELYSIUM.
The quality of Nicotinamide Riboside inside Basis in the future will not be the same as before.
The big order they placed last year should be running out soon.

did they give a reason for doing that?
Because ELYSIUM didn't pay bills. They are in a bitter lawsuit 

 



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#123 Oakman

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 03:42 PM

Considering the likely price hike by Chromadex, bought some Niagen @Alive By Nature for $2.44/g  or $18.33  for 1 mo supply @250mg/day.


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#124 Forever21

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 04:42 PM

is LEF nad+ a good choice? 



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 07:01 PM

Considering the likely price hike by Chromadex, bought some Niagen @Alive By Nature for $2.44/g  or $18.33  for 1 mo supply @250mg/day.

 

Why do you think there is a price hike coming up?  Is there some news I missed somewhere?  Thanks!



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 08:01 PM

 

Considering the likely price hike by Chromadex, bought some Niagen @Alive By Nature for $2.44/g  or $18.33  for 1 mo supply @250mg/day.

 

Why do you think there is a price hike coming up?  Is there some news I missed somewhere?  Thanks!

 

 

Apparently, yes. Listen to the investor call here.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:49 PM

Just a thought...

 

LEF which more often than not use to use quite high doses of everything keeps NR at still what looks a low dose (100mg). You have much more experience that me with NR. How you consider this? Is this simply marketing or are they waiting more results to change the dose? They seems reactive to research though, e.g. they recently increased quercetin in some of their formulation due to the results on senolytics.

 

I realize that many here and not buying from LEF due to the high price per gram as shown in the previous posts.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:43 PM

 Is this simply marketing or are they waiting more results to change the dose? 

 

The common 100 mg and 125 mg NR supplements sold allows the consumer to allow the consumer to create the dose he or she feels is right rather than insisting a minimum 250 mg or 300mg dose .  



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:33 PM

 

 Is this simply marketing or are they waiting more results to change the dose? 

 

The common 100 mg and 125 mg NR supplements sold allows the consumer to allow the consumer to create the dose he or she feels is right rather than insisting a minimum 250 mg or 300mg dose .

 

 

These low mg supplements are a rip-off in my mind, coming from makers who want to market they contain NR but really there's so little as to make them virtually non-functional, given current available required amts to produce noticeable changes in serum NAD+ uplifts. You do realize for $10 you can buy a milligram scale on Amazon and slice and dice whatever amt you want from 50 mg to 500 mg from vendors that offer far more economical 250 mg or 333 mg capsules to put in a smaller (or larger) capsule or simply in some liquid like OJ or juice?

 

Worse, LEF (100 mg) and Doctor's Best (75 mg) are typical of vendors that that basically incapsulate mostly excipients and fillers (verses NR) at astronomically high prices, things I don't want in my body! If you use a scale, you'd realize that 100 mg of Niagen is barely nothing at all. Heck, I give my aged cat 40 mg of NR. For an animal that size, it does perk them up, but for a human at ~60-70 kg,  ummm?



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:04 PM

 

 

These low mg supplements are a rip-off in my mind, coming from makers who want to market they contain NR but really there's so little as to make them virtually non-functional, given current available required amts to produce noticeable changes in serum NAD+ uplifts. You do realize for $10 you can buy a milligram scale on Amazon and slice and dice whatever amt you want from 50 mg to 500 mg from vendors that offer far more economical 250 mg or 333 mg capsules to put in a smaller (or larger) capsule or simply in some liquid like OJ or juice?

 

Worse, LEF (100 mg) and Doctor's Best (75 mg) are typical of vendors that that basically incapsulate mostly excipients and fillers (verses NR) at astronomically high prices, things I don't want in my body! If you use a scale, you'd realize that 100 mg of Niagen is barely nothing at all. Heck, I give my aged cat 40 mg of NR. For an animal that size, it does perk them up, but for a human at ~60-70 kg,  ummm?

 

 

I don't see how providing a unit of 100 mg is a ripoff assuming there is 100 mg of NR in there and that it costs 25% less than 125 mg pills. 


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#131 Oakman

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 12:59 AM

 

 

 

These low mg supplements are a rip-off in my mind, coming from makers who want to market they contain NR but really there's so little as to make them virtually non-functional, given current available required amts to produce noticeable changes in serum NAD+ uplifts. You do realize for $10 you can buy a milligram scale on Amazon and slice and dice whatever amt you want from 50 mg to 500 mg from vendors that offer far more economical 250 mg or 333 mg capsules to put in a smaller (or larger) capsule or simply in some liquid like OJ or juice?

 

Worse, LEF (100 mg) and Doctor's Best (75 mg) are typical of vendors that that basically incapsulate mostly excipients and fillers (verses NR) at astronomically high prices, things I don't want in my body! If you use a scale, you'd realize that 100 mg of Niagen is barely nothing at all. Heck, I give my aged cat 40 mg of NR. For an animal that size, it does perk them up, but for a human at ~60-70 kg,  ummm?

 

 

I don't see how providing a unit of 100 mg is a ripoff assuming there is 100 mg of NR in there and that it costs 25% less than 125 mg pills. 

 

 

Regardless of a 25% discount, selling NR for $5-$6 or more per gram, as others are selling for $3 or less per gram, is (in my mind) a rip off. But then a lot of people pay for designer labels on cheap shirts too, or pay money for municipal water in plastic bottles. Nothing wrong with it, a lot of people waste a lot of money on a lot of things, I just prefer not to do that on NR, if it is readily available at more reasonable pricing.


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Posted 20 May 2017 - 05:23 AM

 

 

 

Regardless of a 25% discount, selling NR for $5-$6 or more per gram, as others are selling for $3 or less per gram, is (in my mind) a rip off. But then a lot of people pay for designer labels on cheap shirts too, or pay money for municipal water in plastic bottles. Nothing wrong with it, a lot of people waste a lot of money on a lot of things, I just prefer not to do that on NR, if it is readily available at more reasonable pricing.

 

 

This is very simple. Convert everything into 100 mg units and calculate the cost across brands. How hard is this? I agree, we want the cheapest 100 mg of NR or 1000 mg - it doesn't matter, right?


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#133 Forever21

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 03:15 AM

Then what do you guys use / have used? What seems to be the right / reasonable brand for the cost?



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Posted 23 May 2017 - 10:55 AM

Then what do you guys use / have used? What seems to be the right / reasonable brand for the cost?

I take 250 mg a day of HPN, the vendor that seems popular here in part because they used to get a group deal. That is now available on Amazon, and I assume on their website which puts it at $26.30 a bottle of 60 capsules each 125 mg, but contains 180 capsules -- $0.89 a day at 250 mg. That is the cheapest I've found but someone mentioned  'Alive!' is around $25 a bottle



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Posted 23 May 2017 - 07:40 PM

Back a few posts "Considering the likely price hike by Chromadex, bought some Niagen @Alive By Nature for $2.44/g  or $18.33  for 1 mo supply @250mg/day."

 

This is a quantity purchase, so not everyone would be able to pay that much at once.The poster has always been right on top of the best prices for NR. Your price for HPN seems to  be over $3 per gram. I am partial to HPN as a quality company, but would buy from other vendors if that large of a price difference exists. Personally, I buy in volume when the lower price is great enough. Unfortunately, I have about a 4 to 6 months supply right now, so might miss the current low prices.

 

I am just experimenting with regularly cycling off of NR 3 days a week. Agree with the poster or not they have an interesting hypothesis, and personal experiment under way. Given my respect for whom I will call at this stage a trustworthy citizen scientist, I expect that they will let us know as their position evolves over time. My experiment is 1/2 a gram Nicotinamide + 2 grams of D-Ribose 2 days a week, with neither this or NR 1 day a week.. No conclusion yet. I take 375 mg of NR.

 

 


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Posted 23 May 2017 - 08:13 PM

Then what do you guys use / have used? What seems to be the right / reasonable brand for the cost?

 

I've been pleased with Alive by Nature's version.  I just recently bought a six-pack after running a trial of a single bottle.  Hope the price holds.  I let myself be ripped off by Live Cell for the past few years.




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