I'm confident TFI supplemental regimen + chemo will help him live more than what his doctors have predicted (November 1st). I also hope he'll eventually beat the disease.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 12:39 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:02 AM
I'm sorry but this is so offensive to me. DEATH WATCH. No this is life watch not death watch. This is awful. I wish you could remove it. It is negative, and macabre. Please request a navigator to remove this thread.I'm confident TFI supplemental regimen + chemo will help him live more than what his doctors have predicted (November 1st). I also hope he'll eventually beat the disease.
Edited by missminni, 06 August 2008 - 01:03 AM.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:12 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:25 AM
I find this thread inappropriate for about 2 dozen reasons...
I agree with missminni, this thread should be taken out.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:29 AM
I find this thread inappropriate for about 2 dozen reasons...
I agree with missminni, this thread should be taken out.
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Dimitri said TFI requested it and named it. I still don't care. It's awful. I'm sorry. This is just awful. sorry Bill, some things
just aren't funny. This is in bad taste.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:58 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 02:08 AM
Most definitely that.If TFI requested it...
Maybe he wants an unbiased vote from the members, considering the votes are basically secret.
Maybe the wording needs to change on this topic...
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 02:08 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 02:14 AM
I hope he reconsiders. Maybe he wasn't thinking straight. He just had chemo recently.I was very close to locking this down due to poor taste, but if TheFirstImmortal requested it, I guess I shouldn't have any complaints. I am moving it to off-topic, though.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:12 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:42 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:47 AM
lolI also found this poll offensive, but I wanted to wait and make sure that it wasn't just me being anal retentive.
Besides, if the poll was going to be done right, then you should have at least given some odds...3to2, 4to1, 1to2...
Was that the line? Did I cross it?
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:49 AM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:54 AM
Well, you'd be crossing it if you took bets... Personally, I think that if Bill wants it, he should have it. I also think he'll make it. I think the high dose res may do it. When I first saw the thread, I kinda went OMG, but now I admire Bill for his attitude. I'd like to think I'd do the same thing.I also found this poll offensive, but I wanted to wait and make sure that it wasn't just me being anal retentive.
Besides, if the poll was going to be done right, then you should have at least given some odds...3to2, 4to1, 1to2...
Was that the line? Did I cross it?
Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:56 AM
No, we're all over this thing. Bill HATES censorship.moderators asleep?
utterly disgraceful.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 04:14 AM
You know what? Now that you put it this way, I understand why he did it. It's brave.Well, you'd be crossing it if you took bets... Personally, I think that if Bill wants it, he should have it. I also think he'll make it. I think the high dose res may do it. When I first saw the thread, I kinda went OMG, but now I admire Bill for his attitude. I'd like to think I'd do the same thing.I also found this poll offensive, but I wanted to wait and make sure that it wasn't just me being anal retentive.
Besides, if the poll was going to be done right, then you should have at least given some odds...3to2, 4to1, 1to2...
Was that the line? Did I cross it?
Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:39 AM
What message do you think it is sending? I think its sending the right message. If everyone here had a thread like this, it would send exactly the message ImmInst is all about. The inevitability of death. We all have a vague idea of when we will die if we don't get a cure. The fact that our demise can be expedited at any time just makes our mission that much more urgent.it sends the wrong message about what ImmInst is about
Posted 06 August 2008 - 12:14 PM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:27 PM
I expect the TFI hoped the results of the poll would be life affirming, with people betting on him to make it, which in turn would give him a much-needed boost of confidence and optimism that he can live to see 2009.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:50 PM
LOL. That's so true and it's probably going to contribute to him beating the odds.I expect the TFI hoped the results of the poll would be life affirming, with people betting on him to make it, which in turn would give him a much-needed boost of confidence and optimism that he can live to see 2009.
I imagined he didn't care what the results were, he would enjoy telling everyone that voted against him to screw off when he beat the odds. Full of piss and vinegar, that one.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:23 PM
LOL. That's so true and it's probably going to contribute to him beating the odds.I expect the TFI hoped the results of the poll would be life affirming, with people betting on him to make it, which in turn would give him a much-needed boost of confidence and optimism that he can live to see 2009.
I imagined he didn't care what the results were, he would enjoy telling everyone that voted against him to screw off when he beat the odds. Full of piss and vinegar, that one.
God Bless him.
I was initially so shocked when I saw this thread, but after what Niner posted last night, I gave it
a little more thought and realized everybody has their own way of coping and who am I to tell anyone,
most of all THEFIRSTIMMORTAL !!, how to deal with coming face to face with their own mortality.
I think humor is as good a way as any. So let's all just have a good laugh about this.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:31 PM
Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:43 PM
I'm not sure what the official "spirit of Imminst" is, but this isLOL. That's so true and it's probably going to contribute to him beating the odds.I expect the TFI hoped the results of the poll would be life affirming, with people betting on him to make it, which in turn would give him a much-needed boost of confidence and optimism that he can live to see 2009.
I imagined he didn't care what the results were, he would enjoy telling everyone that voted against him to screw off when he beat the odds. Full of piss and vinegar, that one.
God Bless him.
I was initially so shocked when I saw this thread, but after what Niner posted last night, I gave it
a little more thought and realized everybody has their own way of coping and who am I to tell anyone,
most of all THEFIRSTIMMORTAL !!, how to deal with coming face to face with their own mortality.
I think humor is as good a way as any. So let's all just have a good laugh about this.
I'll try to have laugh about it, but this thread seems very much against the spirit of Imminst.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 08:57 PM
Edited by sam988, 06 August 2008 - 08:59 PM.
Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:03 PM
What's wrong with the topic? If TFI chose the name and wanted it to be made, then w-h-a-t i-s t-h-e p-r-o-b-l-e-m ? Not all people are so sensitive, you know.
Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:20 PM
It is bad PR for those who don't read into the thread a bit.
Posted 08 August 2008 - 09:47 PM
Posted 08 August 2008 - 09:49 PM
Posted 08 August 2008 - 09:58 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss, but death is not evil. Death is a transition. I used to fear death untilI just got a phone call this morning that my God-mother (Ann Barnett) died last night in her sleep. I know this is off topic but I'm heart broken.
She was a 2nd mother to me. She took me in when no one else would when I was a drug addict. I lived with her for 3 years when my father died.
Death is horrible. She was in her 70s and the diabetes caught up to her and she passed away, and her Husband of 47 years found her in the morning (my god father)
I'm just very sad. Death is evil.
Posted 09 August 2008 - 12:36 AM
Cancer prevention
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