Love your user name -- owls are awesome! Especially snowys (Bubo scandiacus). Be grateful we don't have to hunt ten mice in a field everynight just to survive. Or lemmings...fast little fuckers
I do 5-7 day long fasts 2-4 times a year, but IF is much more sustainable way to get the benefits of fasting on daily basis, and if anything you ingest stops the fast, I highly doubt that ANYONE does a proper IF.
Do you happen to have the episode when she talks about this?
Satchin Panda may be the relevant name here, I think. And Rhonda's interview may be the first one with him, I think they've done. Both are recent in her podcast series.
About "...if anything you ingest stops the fast, I highly doubt that ANYONE does a proper IF..." Proper fast, what's that? Proper for whom, when, why? If you're already healthy, and you're fasting to further increase health, or maintain it, I'm not sure why proper matters very much. Don't eat for awhile; if you happen to drink some tea while fasting, no biggie. You'll pee soon. But if you have specific medical issues, it seems like more of a question to your caregivers, imho. Who of course don't know much about fasting or CR anyway, so we're here. But I don't think anyone's studied fasting to rigorous standards accepted by mainstream amongst healthy people -- I like the people at True North. Hey, the science ain't pinned down perfect, but they're doing their best with an very inexpensive, minimal bullshit ancient practice with often very sick, obese patients.
Are there any tests that I can do to measure autophagy? I am willing to pay for bloods in a private lab, one time experiment and it is worth it. Perhaps I can measure ketone levels using a stick- even if ketosis is
not a strong indicator of autophagy, I assume that if I get out of ketosis after drinking amino acids/tea/b complex I'm definitely not in a fasting state anymore, right?
Not to be a jerk, but again why does it matter to have some specific, affordable measurable autophagy indication when none exists? And even if a test exists (and maybe it does, anyone know?) what would it tell us? The body is busily doing its job and probably different organs are moving in and out of cellular cleanup and repair every waking moment. To slow aging might be to intensify internal repair through fasting, but hasn't our species been food deprived and grubbing in the diet to survive most of our existence?
I mean, if fasting and CR expended lifespan out to incredible lengths, we might have more examples of it today Maybe not, who knows. Natural selection has given us these repair mechanisms for the species that procreated more than the species that didn't, or died prematurely, but don't you want to extend your lifespan for centuries?
Fasting and CR(on) are healthy, but almost all of the researchers I've read and heard say things like -- sure fasting is healthy but what's even healthier is everyday "optimal" diet.
Personally, I'm gonna keep fasting regularly and practicing about 8-10% CR because it's working well for me so far.
Edited by sthira, 21 December 2017 - 04:46 PM.