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[FunkOdyssey]

Good luck finding women like this in the States. ;-)

I found one! Then again, she's a Russian immigrant... I guess that only lends more support to your argument. [thumb]

[caston]

LOTS of nice women here in Australia.

[Utnapishtim]

Warsaw Pact ladies leave me cold, like a russian winter... Too blonde, too tall, too slavic...


To paraphrase Horace Greeley. "Go (Far) East young men..."
As far as I'm concerned its all about Japan...
The combination of, beauty, immaculate dress and polished manners, with sexual uninhibitedness and kindness of temperament is unparalleled anywhere else I have been.

There is also not the economic disparity that exists between the west and eastern europe, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth in regard to the motives of Marxist-Leninisms grand-daughters... and the true basis of the attraction

Your mileage may vary...

[Live Forever]

When I make some more cash, Ukraine/Russia I come!

Careful, I think this is how the movie Hostel started.

[FunkOdyssey]

[lol]

[Karomesis]

Men should not use female avatars on an internet forum, in my opinion.

Are you serious? [huh]


IMHO, men should not use japanimation avatars, as it makes me think you are a cartoon [glasses]

[caston]

Steve, the first time I saw your avatar I thought you might be female but your posts about porn made me realise otherwise

And I guess live forever is a giant double helix...

[mitkat]

(Maybe I'll finally be able to find that rare girl who's actually 5'11" and thin!)

I have one of those [tung]

Men should not use female avatars on an internet forum, in my opinion.

_________________
Are you serious?


IMHO, men should not use japanimation avatars, as it makes me think you are a cartoon

I agree and I have always enjoyed your avatar, karomesis.

I thought it was pleasantly transparent to put a face to a name online.

Edited by mitkat, 25 July 2006 - 01:00 AM.

[Karomesis]

Steve, the first time I saw your avatar I thought you might be female but your posts about porn made me realise otherwise smile.gif

And I guess live forever is a giant double helix... wink.gif

[lol] [lol] good point Caston. [thumb]

I agree and I have always enjoyed your avatar, karomesis.

I thought it was pleasantly transparent to put a face to a name online.

I'm glad you do Mitkat; you have excellent taste. I love gorgeous women and other beautiful things like cars, art, music, ect.


On my new website/blog there is a slogan which I live by............."pleasure is the highest good".

[stephen]

I have/had ( it is yet to be fully decided ) a girlfriend who is extremely beautiful and social and fun, but also very shallow.

If you're near Atlanta, I think I can take her off your hands. It's a burden, I know. Extremely beautiful, social, and fun women are tough to take on.

Seriously, if you've got the raw materials... work with it and make it into something better. A beautiful girl can always become deep. An deep girl can't always become beautiful.

[DJS]

A beautiful girl can always become deep.

Not always

[doug123]

Food for thought:

One of the cardinal pleasures of life is offered to man by works of art. Art, as its highest potential, as the projection of things "as they might be and ought to be," can provide man with an invaluable emotional fuel. But again, the kind of art works one responds to, depends on one's deeper values and premises.

Art projects an implicit view of existence - and it is one's one view of existence that determines the art one will respond to. The soul of a man whose favourite play is 'Cyrano de Bergerac' is radically different from the sould of the man whose favourite play is 'Waiting for Godot'.

Of the various pleasure that man can offer himself, the greatest is pride - the pleasure he takes in his own achievements and in the creation of his own character. The pleasure he takes in the character and achievements of another being is that of admiration. The highest expression of these two responses - pride and admiration - is romantic love. Its celebration is sex.

It is in this sphere above all - in a man's romantic-sexual responses - that his view of himself and of existence stands eloquently revealed. A man falls in love with an sexually desires the person who reflects his own deepest values.

There are two crucial respects in which a man's romantic sexual responses are psychologically revealing: in his choice of partner - and in the meaning, to him, of the sexual act.

- Nathaniel Branden, "The Psychology of Pleasure"

I wish I had the whole essay to add the next few paragraphs.

[stephen]

It is in this sphere above all - in a man's romantic-sexual responses - that his view of himself and of existence stands eloquently revealed. A man falls in love with an sexually desires the person who reflects his own deepest values.

There are two crucial respects in which a man's romantic sexual responses are psychologically revealing: in his choice of partner - and in the meaning, to him, of the sexual act.

Ok, I'm typically a fan of the objectivist camp (my political leanings are quite libertarian). However, I've always thought the "spiritualization" of sex is a bit ludicrous.

Christianity is the same way. It takes a few passages from their holy book and elevates a simple act into some kind of divine union that is oh-so-ever important. Suddenly, you have a myriad of laws surrounding it (based on biblical fact or not), and the belief that sexual sins are somehow the worst of all the sins (hence the frenzy in the pulpits regarding homosexuality and abstinance.)

Why do people have SUCH A DESIRE to believe that sex is some transcendant experience? It just happens to be an evolutionary technique whereby we're rewarded with a burst of endorphins for stirring up the gene pool. If our brains were wired differently, we could get just as much pleasure from sticking our big toes up each others noses. Doesn't sound quite as sexy or transcendent, does it?

[Utnapishtim]

Sex isnt neccessarily transcendent, but neither is it trivial... Just because we know its biological purpose doesnt mean we can't invest it with deeper meaning if we choose...
A candle lit dinner with my girlfriend is about much more than just satisfying the biological urge to eat. Sex is the same way. Im not denigrating the sexual equivalent of a drive thru big mac meal here... that too has its place But Sex as a way of expressing deep feelings is completely valid in my view... Sex doesnt HAVE to be spiritual and more than a meal has to be romantic... but they CAN be if we are using them as a way to communicate deep feelings for each other

[doug123]

I might be sexually attracted to an airhead, maybe; but sleeping with an airhead will also ruin my credibility with intelligent women.

[Live Forever]

I might be sexually attracted to an airhead, maybe; but sleeping with an airhead will also ruin my credibility with intelligent women.

If they find out...


Perhaps airheads are like the old saying about "fat women": Fat women are like a moped; both are fun to ride until your friends find out.

[Shepard]

I might be sexually attracted to an airhead, maybe; but sleeping with an airhead will also ruin my credibility with intelligent women.

False, false, false, false, false.

That is, if losing credibility means they won't sleep with you.

[Anne]

As long as 2 (or more) people all go into a casual encounter knowing it's casual, then I certainly don't think it is a big deal. I'm a strong proponent of people being permitted (and encouraged) to define for themselves what a "meaningful" or even a pleasant encounter is. It really is up to the individual. However, there are also practical issues involved and I would say that honesty is an absolute ethical imperative in any such encounter, since regardless of how lovely one of the "airheads" might look, she's still a potential herpes vector.

I'm fully monogamous primarily because it's logistically simple -- there's nothing "transcendent" about it, it's just that my SO and I prefer this arrangement and have agreed to it. There's also the fact that having only 1 person as the object of one's romantic affections allows for a certain degree of depth to develop that isn't possible if a person is just flitting from one person to another. But not everyone wants or cares about that kind of depth. When people are seeking partners (for casual fun or long-term commitment) the primary thing is to make sure the person you are pursuing has the same expectations and philosophy about the relationship that you do. That way, everyone wins!

[doug123]

I might be sexually attracted to an airhead, maybe; but sleeping with an airhead will also ruin my credibility with intelligent women.

False, false, false, false, false.

That is, if losing credibility means they won't sleep with you.

You can laugh at me or whatever, take the blue pill or the red pill, whatever. Before commenting, please read Jung's Preface. Messing with the wrong woman at the wrong time will make you occupied when a higher quality woman isn't.

I used to think in a similar manner, Jeremy. For much of my youth, I was one cocky little bitch. I can regress to this pitiful state and it's so embarrassing, so I try to stay away from drugs (or people who use them) as much as possible, as a relapse can lead recovering drug addicts such as myself to death.

When I was 17 (I think) I had a life changing experience (hallucination) that scared the living shit out of me. It hit me deep, and continues to.

As crazy as it may sound, I have been referring to the Wilhelm Baynes version of the I Ching as much as possible whenever in doubt about a particular woman.

No, this isn't the Matrix or anything, but I try to consult this oracle whenever I am in doubt -- about anything. It has been so accurate that its not even funny -- it's scary. You can laugh at me, but this version of the I Ching is worth a look even if you consider yourself a total skeptic. The introduction is written by Carl Jung. Here is an excerpt from the Foreword which he graced to only this interpretation of this ancient text.

An excerpt from here:

Since I am not a sinologue, a foreword to the Book of Changes from my hand must be a testimonial of my individual experience with this great and singular book. It also affords me a welcome opportunity to pay tribute again to the memory of my late friend, Richard Wilhelm. He himself was profoundly aware of the cultural significance of his translation of the I Ching, a version unrivaled in the West.

If the meaning of the Book of Changes were easy to grasp, the work would need no foreword. But this is far from being the case, for there is so much that is obscure about it that Western scholars have tended to dispose of it as a collection of "magic spells," either too abstruse to be intelligible, or of no value whatsoever. Legge's translation of the I Ching, up to now the only version available in English, has done little to make the work accessible to Western minds.[1]Wilhelm, however, has made every effort to open the way to an understanding of the symbolism of the text. He was in a position to do this because he himself was taught the philosophy and the use of the I Ching by the venerable sage Lao Nai-hsüan; moreover, he had over a period of many years put the peculiar technique of the oracle into practice. His grasp of the living meaning of the text gives his version of the I Ching a depth of perspective that an exclusively academic knowledge of Chinese philosophy could never provide.

I am greatly indebted to Wilhelm for the light he has thrown upon the complicated problem of the I Ching, and for insight as regards its practical application as well. For more than thirty years I have interested myself in this oracle technique, or method of exploring the unconscious, for it has seemed to me of uncommon significance. I was already fairly familiar with the I Ching when I first met Wilhelm in the early nineteen twenties; he confirmed for me then what I already knew, and taught me many things more.

...

The manner in which the I Ching tends to look upon reality seems to disfavor our causalistic procedures. The moment under actual observation appears to the ancient Chinese view more of a chance hit than a clearly defined result of concurring causal chain processes. The matter of interest seems to be the configuration formed by chance events in the moment of observation, and not at all the hypothetical reasons that seemingly account for the coincidence. While the Western mind carefully sifts, weighs, selects, classifies, isolates, the Chinese picture of the moment encompasses everything down to the minutest nonsensical detail, because all of the ingredients make up the observed moment.

Thus it happens that when one throws the three coins, or counts through the forty-nine yarrow stalks, these chance details enter into the picture of the moment of observation and form a part of it -- a part that is insiguificant to us, yet most meaningful to the Chinese mind. With us it would be a banal and almost meaningless statement (at least on the face of it) to say that whatever happens in a given moment possesses inevitably the quality peculiar to that moment. This is not an abstract argument but a very practical one. There are certain connoisseurs who can tell you merely from the appearance, taste, and behavior of a wine the site of its vineyard and the year of its origin. There are antiquarians who with almost uncanny accuracy will name the time and place of origin and the maker of an objet d'art or piece of furniture on merely looking at it. And there are even astrologers who can tell you, without any previous knowledge of your nativity, what the position of sun and moon was and what zodiacal sign rose above the horizon in the moment of your birth. In the face of such facts, it must be admitted that moments can leave long-lasting traces.

In other words, whoever invented the I Ching was convinced that the hexagram worked out in a certain moment coincided with the latter in quality no less than in time. To him the hexagram was the exponent of the moment in which it was cast -- even more so than the hours of the clock or the divisions of the calendar could be -- inasmuch as the hexagram was understood to be an indicator of the essential situation prevailing in the moment of its origin.

This assumption involves a certain curious principle that I have termed synchronicity,[2] a concept that formulates a point of view diametrically opposed to that of causality. Since the latter is a merely statistical truth and not absolute, it is a sort of working hypothesis of how events evolve one out of another, whereas synchronicity takes the coincidence of events in space and time as meaning something more than mere chance, namely, a peculiar interdependence of objective events among themselves as well as with the subjective (psychic) states of the observer or observers.

I won't go into too much detail here about the young woman, but I was infatuated with her -- looks. She was remarkably attractive and sexy, that's all I have to say. Definately the "hottest" girl in my school, or so I thought. She is now a pretty successful actress.

Without getting into extreme details, I had a chance to get together with her, and I passed based on what I drew. Hexagram 8, line 3. It was pretty cut and dry that if I messed with her, REALLY bad shit would go down. Bad went down anyways, but I'm at least still alive today. Oh well, I ended up getting together with her best friend, who was much more my type and was my girlfriend for over a year (which is a long time for me). She is a vegetarian too.

Six in the third place means:
You hold together with the wrong people.

We are often among people who do not belong to our own sphere. In that
case we must beware of being drawn into false intimacy through force of
habit. Needless to say, this would have evil consequences. Maintaining
sociability without intimacy is the only right attitude toward such people, because
otherwise we should not be free to enter into relationship with people of our
own kind later on.

Here is a link to an online version of this text, there are some errors.

Edited by nootropikamil, 26 July 2006 - 07:34 AM.

[Shepard]

My comment was purely on the issue of what it really meant to lose credibility. I can't think of a single time that my history (from this perspective) harmed my chances with a different girl (one who looked down on someone I'd been with before). In most cases, I'd say it improved my standing.

A relationship is an entirely different matter, and one I can't really comment on. And, I've been a little too long without sleep to fully grasp what you are getting at, if it doesn't have to to do with a longer-term relationship.

[mind_offset]

guyledouche, have you never considered to overcome your AFC behaviors by teaming with a wingman?

P.A.I.R. is a place where "pick up artists", "wingmen", and apprentices can locate and hook up with others in their area [thumb] ...

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[Ghostrider]

guyledouche, have you never considered to overcome your AFC behaviors by teaming with a wingman?

P.A.I.R. is a place where "pick up artists", "wingmen", and apprentices can locate and hook up with others in their area  [thumb] ...

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Yes having a wingman definitely makes things easier, chick usual move around in pairs and it's much harder to break in between alone. "Divide and conqour".

Optimally, wingman should be about the same level of attractiveness (if there is too much difference all the chicks are interested only in the "more attractive one", but with perhaps a little different style and preferences, as you don't want to have too much competition between yourselves (i.e. hitting up the same chicks etc.)

Nah, it's much easier to just let the girls come to you :-)

[Shepard]

Nah, it's much easier to just let the girls come to you :-)

Yeah, it's real easy. And better fuel economy on the drive home.

[mind_offset]

Nah, it's much easier to just let the girls come to you :-)

Yeah, it's real easy. And better fuel economy on the drive home.

Something to make you glow in the dark ?
Pheromones ?
Thick wallet ?
A subtile expertise of social proof, ECs, neg hits, busy man hard to get, fluff talk, kinos... ? [lol]

[Anne]

Depends on the kind of girl you're after. I know that when I was single, what impressed me was guys who would come up and just start talking about something interesting, like computers or engineering or physics. That way I at least knew they had a brain and some actual interests.

But a glow in the dark boy probably would have gotten my attention too...

[Centurion]

I find all I have to do is walk over and talk. I don't really bother with routines or lines or crap. I just walk over and have a conversation. The ones that I can connect with intellectually and emotionally tend to be the ones I end up developing lasting friendships with. I'm not big on the whole "gotta have a girl" thing I suppose, which makes me more at ease around women.

[DukeNukem]

Centurion, it also helps that you look so much like Patrick Stewart.

[Centurion]

I just look them in the eye and say "make it show"

[Centurion]

The accent does help though, American women seem to fly at me at warp speed

[doug123]

Centurion, it also helps that you look so much like Patrick Stewart.

Duke, that's not centurion. Check his profile.