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Gin and Tonic to Prevent COVID-19 ?

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#1 bixbyte

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Posted 14 March 2020 - 03:41 PM


Gin and Tonic may also be purchased without the Gin. 

Available in the Supermarket Soda Aisle Tonic Water contains Quinine and is readily available for around $1 a Bottle and might possess Antiviral effects.

The Medication chloroquine is just an analogue of Quinine that drug companies sell as Cinchona, Quinine or Tonic Water can not be sold as a medication.

So, drug companies must invent drugs that are similar in order to market them as drugs. 

These antimalarial drugs quinine, chloroquine and mefloquine are antagonists and very similar in efficacy.

 

Currently the Chinese are investigating  Chloroquine for patients with Coronavirus:

 

https://en.wikipedia...iki/Chloroquine

 

https://en.wikipedia...oquine#Research

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC1994240/

Coronavirus[edit]

In trials conducted in China, chloroquine appears to be useful for coronavirus disease 2019.[12] See § Research for details.

 

These antimalarial drugs quinine, chloroquine and mefloquine are antagonists and very similar in efficacy.

 

Its history goes back to Peru (South America), where the indigenous people extracted the bark of the Cinchona[33] trees and used the extract (Chinchona officinalis) to fight chills and fever in the seventeenth century. In 1633 this herbal medicine was introduced in Europe, where it was given the same use and also began to be used against malaria.[34] The quinoline antimalarial drug quinine was isolated from the extract in 1820, and chloroquine is an analogue of this.

 

 

 

 

 


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#2 Harkijn

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Posted 14 March 2020 - 04:35 PM

Interesting find Bixby! However the tonics available at my supermarket have extremely small amounts of quinine. Those who feel that they should take special measures could try to make tea from bark of cinchona. In my country available in health food stores.


Edited by Harkijn, 14 March 2020 - 04:36 PM.


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#3 Turnbuckle

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Posted 14 March 2020 - 05:06 PM

Which tonic water has chloroquine?



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#4 Mind

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Posted 14 March 2020 - 05:29 PM

Tonic water without the Gin. Key point here. Alcohol is known to lower immune response. https://www.livestro...-immune-system/



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 06:28 PM

Schweppes is probably the most famous of quinine drinks.

i highly doubt though that you can get the quinine dosage necessary for Covid19 just from these drinks. It’s probably negligible . At the dosage needed for Covid , Choloroquine has heart attacks among its side effects.

 

I’d love nothing more than being wrong though. Schweppes is one of my favorite soft drinks, and the idea of combatting evil viruses while sipping on a nice cold glass of these drinks is lovely.


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Posted 15 March 2020 - 07:28 AM

Here is  a way to make your own tonic water.. This way it  should be possible to ingest some more quinine and not drink fructose and other undesirable stuff:

https://www.alcademi...filtration.html


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Posted 15 March 2020 - 04:17 PM

Here is  a way to make your own tonic water.. This way it  should be possible to ingest some more quinine and not drink fructose and other undesirable stuff:

https://www.alcademi...filtration.html

I use a Moulinex Coffee Grinder and grind Chinchona into a fine powder. Cut open a Tea bag and empty the tea.

Place One Gram of Cinchona Bark powder per 6 oz of water. The Water is filtered and fully boiled.

Steep the Cinchona Tea Bag in boiled water that is covered to retain the heat for 15 to 20 Minutes.

Instead of Sugar I add one pack of Splenda for each 6 ozs of Orange Liquid for my homemade Tonic.    

I mix Gin and Soda Water to taste and add an oz of Orange Cinchona to taste. 

Makes a Nice Orange Color. 

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Posted 15 March 2020 - 07:28 PM

You can buy Cinchona Bark capsules or powder.

 

Adverse effects include Cinchonism and Quinism. Another concern is long QT syndrome.


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 11:56 PM

So cinchonism side effects clear on their own? i'm not clear on the wiki article's description.

 

Any permanent loss in visual acuity would generally lead to a shorter life span when all the details in the world matter as much as they do.

 

As for quinism...

 

 

Neuropsychiatric quinism is a chronic encephalopathy due to intoxication by mefloquinequinacrinechloroquine.

 

So intoxication is the result of abusing quinines at drug abuse doses? What's the therapeutic index and where if at all does "intoxication" fall on that scale?



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Posted 24 March 2020 - 06:16 AM

Quinine & chloroqine act as an ionophore to get zinc across cell membranes into the cells where COVID replication occurs.  If you can get zinc into these cells, it will inhibit replication of coronavirus.

 

The less available physiological zinc, the higher the dose of ionophore required to have a significant effect.  

 

More available zinc means lower doses of ionophore should suffice.  

 

Got zinc?



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Posted 28 March 2020 - 09:54 PM

Quinine & chloroqine act as an ionophore to get zinc across cell membranes into the cells where COVID replication occurs.  If you can get zinc into these cells, it will inhibit replication of coronavirus.

 

The less available physiological zinc, the higher the dose of ionophore required to have a significant effect.  

 

More available zinc means lower doses of ionophore should suffice.  

 

Got zinc?

 

Thank You!

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=G1zsE9_85i4


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Posted 29 March 2020 - 05:03 AM

Great link bixbyte.  Thank YOU!  No need to mega-dose zinc.  You just need to be sure you're not deficient.  50mg/day is supposed to be the max, & I wouldn't keep that level for more than 30 days or so.  I'm cutting my tabs in half 25mg/day for the long haul. 

 

Plasma levels of zinc are highest 2-4 hours after dosing as zinc is absorbed in the jejunum.  This is prime time to dose your ionophore. 

 

Cheers!  







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