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[zorba990]

What are some of these OTC stimulants you are referring to that may causes problems? And what does magnesium depletion lead to other than electrolyte imbalance?

e.g. DMAA, http://www.nytimes.c...r-2-deaths.html
before that
phenylpropanolamine PPA
before that
ECA stack http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack

How Magnesium prevent heart disease: http://www.naturalne...al_disease.html

Some of those are pharmaceutical agents and I would not define those as supplements.

Agreed, thus why I used 'supplement' in quotes (see post #87). Many kids wont know the difference. Especially when such agents are bundled into a mega product. Remember "Hot Stuff"?

Edited by zorba990, 05 September 2012 - 03:27 AM.

[JohnD60]

I wouldn't call the second picture bulky. Jack Lalanne looks at least as big as that guy in his youth.

Agreed, I would estimate guitar guy's BMI at 24-25. i would estimate Duncan's at 30-33. Apple/Orange