CI might be a better bet than alcor. They're cheaper, and i doubt super centenarians can get much of a deal on life insurance )
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:33 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:34 PM
If you believe a few groups/websites out there in the wilds of the internet, milk is the most wicked deadly poison known to man. Surprising this guy lasted so long. He must be superman.Instead, he drinks milk every day and takes walks on his own in the area around his house, where he lives with his son.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:41 PM
I wonder if we can get some support from the super centenarian research foundation to send these things to all super centenarians.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:56 PM
I have thought about that at times, but it does have the potential of generating "false promises" and bad PR. Even though Imminst does not sell snake oil or make any pormises and is very rational about the future, perception rules, and if we were seen as offering some frail 110 year-old some sort of "lifeline" it might draw negative reactions. Kind-of similar to the Ted Williams affair at Alcor. The intention's of Ted's son were probably honorable and born of love for his father, yet the majority of people went crazy about it. From my perspective, I saw nothing wrong with it, and it was none of my business. The general public (and other family members of Ted W.) felt threatened for some strange reason.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:16 PM
you have a point as it might seem as though we are hocking snake oil.
However I just had a brain storm.
Imminst doesn't have enough money to really fund any kind of research or a grad student. We could help a few students out with books etc.
However, we could fund one cryonics contract at CI for a super centenarian. If instead of seeming to sell them something, what if we out right give them something?
A chance to save someone who has lived in 3 centuries. How's that for PR?
It would be news worthy, it would put imminst in the spotlight
The super centenarian we save would go through all the bells and whistles before they were legally dead, and we would get their family on board.
How do people feel about that idea?
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:22 PM
you have a point as it might seem as though we are hocking snake oil.
However I just had a brain storm.
Imminst doesn't have enough money to really fund any kind of research or a grad student. We could help a few students out with books etc.
However, we could fund one cryonics contract at CI for a super centenarian. If instead of seeming to sell them something, what if we out right give them something?
A chance to save someone who has lived in 3 centuries. How's that for PR?
It would be news worthy, it would put imminst in the spotlight
The super centenarian we save would go through all the bells and whistles before they were legally dead, and we would get their family on board.
How do people feel about that idea?
good idea, but doubt any group could come close to the funds needed...
Alcor prices:
Minimum Suspension Funding:
$150,000.00 Whole Body Suspension ($65,000 to the Patient Care Trust, $70,000 for cryonic suspension, $15,000.00 to the CMS Fund).
$ 80,000.00 Neurosuspension ($25,000 to the Patient Care Trust, $40,000 for cryonic suspension, $15,000.00 to the CMS Fund).
Surcharges:
$ 15,000.00 Surcharge for Members residing in the United Kingdom.
$ 25,000.00 Surcharge for Members outside the U.S., Canada, and the United Kingdom.
$ 25,000.00 Surcharge for last minute, non-member suspensions.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:26 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:37 PM
It is an interesting publicity angle Elrond. I'll keep that one in my memory banks.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:42 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:52 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:52 PM
Maybe it could be a joint prize of ImmInst, CI or Alcor, Mprize, Lifeboat, Life Extension Magazine, etc. to help keep the cost down and to publicize all the groups.
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:53 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:59 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:14 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:15 PM
She might be open to the idea of cryonics/ life extension from an education point of view.Although she never drank alcohol or tried tobacco and led an active life, Parker offered no tips Thursday for living a long life. Her only advice to those gathered was: "More education.''
Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:35 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:44 PM
Why not instead help someone who really wants cryonics, has sought cryonics, understands cryonics, and has asked for help?
http://www.imminst.o...&f=63&s=&t=7306
http://2dot0.org/index2.html
http://www.2dot0.org/
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:53 PM
Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:44 PM
Why not instead help someone who really wants cryonics, has sought cryonics, understands cryonics, and has asked for help?
http://www.imminst.o...&f=63&s=&t=7306
http://2dot0.org/index2.html
http://www.2dot0.org/
Posted 19 September 2007 - 12:34 AM
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:15 AM
It is an interesting publicity angle Elrond. I'll keep that one in my memory banks.
headlines
"Immortality Institute preserves world's Oldest man for the future"
"worlds oldest man may be a permanent position"
"Cryonics for worlds oldest man"
"Institute devoted to ending involuntary death triess to save worlds oldest man"
If we spend the time and actually get family/friends on board before hand, it could be great publicity for imminst and cryonics. Would be a good soap box for us, and for cryonics to talk about modern cryonics advances (rabbit kidney stuff, ease in perfusing brain tissue).
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:17 AM
If you believe a few groups/websites out there in the wilds of the internet, milk is the most wicked deadly poison known to man. Surprising this guy lasted so long. He must be superman.Instead, he drinks milk every day and takes walks on his own in the area around his house, where he lives with his son.
the thing super centenarians seem to have in common is genetics and luck.
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:29 AM
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:39 AM
One of the big problems I could see, and which Elrond alluded to - how does one get cryo-preserved by an American cryonics company when they live in Japan? Unforunately, the logistics may not work on this one, though perhaps there are some ingenious options available.
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:43 AM
On the World's Oldest-- it should go to the oldest, not male or female-- but also they would have to agree. A CI membership is a perfect example-- it would bring a lot of media attention to ImmInst, and cryonics (and Mark's mission could be highlighted for newcomers). I think it is a wonderful idea to present a prize, and would help with it---coordination and such that would be needed.
Posted 19 September 2007 - 01:48 AM
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