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[Mind]

The new forum software was released before testing was complete. I apologize. We will be working on fixing any bugs/glitches over the next couple of days. If you discover something that is not working properly, please report it here. So far:

LIST IS BEING UPDATED

ESSENTIALS:

* content management system (for homepage, and other pages)

EVENTUALLY:
* remove display modes option (not needed, too complex) threaded/linear
* regional forums were lost in transition.. need to revive
* links not working for uploaded files in Full Member share forum
* number of posts made back to three digits
* social networking buttons (digg, stumble, delicious, rss feedburn)

DONE:

* member place google ad in own thread http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7921
* dynamic meta tags to a board http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7725
* automatically welcome member /w PM http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7127
* allow users to delete their accounts http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7490
* who has downloaded a particular attached file http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7171
* who looked at your topic http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7624
* replace post content http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7792
* color forum titles in index http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7050
* bump topic w/o reply http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7302
* universal google ad for forums http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7404
* improved report sys http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7726
* upload video mod http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7616
* Forum Icons http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7339
* members online today feature http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/6977
* threadstarter in topics view http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7664
* teams http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7235
* new posts # since last visit http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7798
* similar topics in topic view http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7293
* image hosting http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7609
* dropdown menus http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/6996 (it turned out it's unstable -- had to uninstall it - KP)
* BBcoding related to embedding videos. Add a button at the top of edit box
* official imminst blog and member community blogs
* Add Active Topic filter hack
* Add Banner Ad hack
* Move all data from old IPB to new IPB Forum[/s] done!
* better search
* post / user reporting
* imminst.org/calenderofevents[/s] installed (see above main link) members can add events
* There is a formatting problem with some of the pages and the quote function where everything is 'squeezed' over to the right hand side. (Kamil w/ Helldesign is focused on having the prob fixed shortly)
* Add "Active Topics" link to replace "Help" on top link bar
* Some members have had trouble logging in with their old forum name.
* Unable to add / upload personal photo for avatar
* Replies to quoted text are being included in the quoted region.
* user personal image unable to resize for profile view

WISH LIST:

attachment browser (This mod seems to be broken - doesn't allow to browse all attachments, displays broken links and in fact - doesn't offer anything that couldn't be achieved via builtin options -- KP)
http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7733

faster search engine (This stuff requires dedicated server and/or root access -- b/c it needs the sphinxsearch.com software to be compiled and installed on the server)
http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/7203

IMMINST WIKI+IPB
www.ipbwiki.com/Ipb_Wiki:Integration_Of_Invision_Power_Board_with_MediaWiki

Edited by Kamil Pełka, 13 December 2007 - 10:47 AM.

[Bruce Klein]

Note: user profile images did not migrate over to the new forum.

Mind, Elrond and I are working w/ Kamil of Helldesign to correct other bugs.

[wayside_test]

New user account creation no longer sends you an email that requires you to confirm your membership.

May not be a bug, but it is different than how the old board worked.

[eternaltraveler]

New user account creation no longer sends you an email that requires you to confirm your membership.

May not be a bug, but it is different than how the old board worked.

fixed that

[DJS]

Wow, the amount of bugs that I'm noticing feels a bit overwhelming... I'm sure everything will straighten itself out with time.

It seems that I lost about 600 of my posts on the move over to the new forum. Has anyone else noticed a reduction in their post count?

[Lazarus Long]

Don is correct, my count is about 600 short too.

BTW when can we expect the IP listing back in the nav and Admin area?

Overall I think this is going to take some getting used to but it is probably worth the pain we are going through right now. Good job Justin and the others involved in the transition.

Some features are better and some features are just still hidden probably. As for the glitches all I can add is take them one at a time but prioritize the ones to do as the most important or the easiest to fix first.

[Mind]

No reply button in the PMs.

It seems I had a reply button when I used Opera but not when I use Firefox.

[Brainbox]

The google toolbar spell checker does not work properly. During spell check, auto-return is disabled so that you are not able to evaluate the result properly.

EDIT:
It works a bit awkward on my 12" laptop, but on the big screen it's doable. Muchas appreados if it could be improved though.

Edited by brainbox, 22 November 2007 - 04:34 PM.

[Brainbox]

Wow, the amount of bugs that I'm noticing feels a bit overwhelming... I'm sure everything will straighten itself out with time.

It seems that I lost about 600 of my posts on the move over to the new forum. Has anyone else noticed a reduction in their post count?

Yup, I thouhgt I had 1400+, but not 100% sure. Can this be checked?

[Brainbox]

Since I'm at home, being ill, I tried the suggestion someone gave in another thread to solve the indentation by selecting the "lineair" option. Didn't work for me. (IE and FF).

And, applying the quality standard of certain vitamin and mineral research studies to this event, I think the forum change did cause my illness because it all started the same time.

Edited by brainbox, 22 November 2007 - 12:52 PM.

[platypus]

Can you make the look more compact? In other words, now there's too much empty space everywhere which makes things less appealing and it also limits the number of topics one can see on one page.

[s123]

Wow, the amount of bugs that I'm noticing feels a bit overwhelming... I'm sure everything will straighten itself out with time.

It seems that I lost about 600 of my posts on the move over to the new forum. Has anyone else noticed a reduction in their post count?

There are topics where someone posts a quote from an earlier post but the earlier post is vanished.

[sentinel]

TBH I have no problem doing a bit of UAT as it's just a RAD approach, there's no way in-house testing would catch all the bugs anyway, this way the system will be up, running and bug free sooner. However the consultancy should knock off X amount from their fee for time spent on testing.

Just noticed the Emotions (via drop down) don't seem to work so no Wink after the last comment.

Also if you are mid-topic (eg page 4) and change the viewing format from eg Standard to Linear, it takes you back to the 1st page again. Fairly minor.

This is my first post but my sig was coming out strange before ie showing [font] rather than changing the font.

And stop moaning everyone, help out!

[Brainbox]

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<- The last forum bug, smash it!

[Brainbox]

The amazing quote bug, last post in this thread as of posting time of this post.

[Lazarus Long]

The amazing quote bug, last post in this thread as of posting time of this post.

It seems that the reply function inserts too much data after awhile when there are already a number of replies to replies The automatic reply or quote post functions can too easily hit a critical mass and the subsequent posts get compressed. I tried to go in and edit to fix but the damage is already done and I didn't want to make mattes worse so I backed out without making changes.

My advice to the navs that try and make the fixes, when in doubt exit by going back in the browser window as that leaves matters unchanged like a *cancel* option.

I suggest that we disable a few of these functions until we can apply a better patch or we will be performing textual surgery all over the place.

I also suggest taht we reduce a few of the command functins available in these rply windows. There are so many options that some are counter intuitive and will wipe out the intent before iti s possible to recover.

For example while in the quick edit window you can still "add reply" below but it wipes out the intended edits when it opens and even backing up won't recover the effort.

[eternaltraveler]

It seems that the reply function inserts too much data after awhile when there are already a number of replies to replies The automatic reply or quote post functions can too easily hit a critical mass and the subsequent posts get compressed. I tried to go in and edit to fix but the damage is already done and I didn't want to make mattes worse so I backed out without making changes.

My advice to the navs that try and make the fixes, when in doubt exit by going back in the browser window as that leaves matters unchanged like a *cancel* option.

I suggest that we disable a few of these functions until we can apply a better patch or we will be performing textual surgery all over the place.

the problem is not with any new posts or quotes. It is strictly with posts made before the upgrade (ie 99.999% of posts). There is no need to disable these functions now as they work just fine, all the old posts were imported to the new format improperly for whatever reason.

[Lazarus Long]

the problem is not with any new posts or quotes. It is strictly with posts made before the upgrade (ie 99.999% of posts). There is no need to disable these functions now as they work just fine, all the old posts were imported to the new format improperly for whatever reason.

I am unsure that is a valid assumption. I am watching a similar effect forming in the global warming thread with posts made after the transition between Chip and Biknut.

I suggest a little caution and testing this problem out before things get ahead of the ability to fix them. Temporarily disabling the functions and turning them back on later will take a lot less time than fixing broken threads especially very large ones like that one.

BTW you can even access edit on top of an already open edit window and this could be very confusing to members that think they are inserting the edits they are making when in fact they are destroying them by opening a new edit window when they hit the wrong button. I realize that "complete edit" is the proper command but having this many options available in the window increases the probability of them being hit by accident, not to mention during the confusion of the transition.

[Brainbox]

Yep, there's definitely more going on than just display handling of the database contents, the last post here is completely screwed.
Anyway, it was a quite direct and even brutal and demagogue argument against Eliah's position in this discussion which I wanted to apologize for, so not bad after all it did not make the transition. But it's a major bug.

I stopped trying to correct the traditional quote bug, just kept on making it worse before....

[eternaltraveler]

I am unsure that is a valid assumption. I am watching a similar effect forming in the global warming thread with posts made after the transition between Chip and Biknut.

I suggest a little caution and testing this problem out before things get ahead of the ability to fix them. Temporarily disabling the functions and turning them back on later will take a lot less time than fixing broken threads especially very large ones like that one.

BTW you can even access edit on top of an already open edit window and this could be very confusing to members that think they are inserting the edits they are making when in fact they are destroying them by opening a new edit window when they hit the wrong button. I realize that "complete edit" is the proper command but having this many options available in the window increases the probability of them being hit by accident, not to mention during the confusion of the transition.

Ok, now I'm testing if quotes are messed up only in the old posts, or new ones are affected as well...

testing

if

there

is

a

problem

with

nested

quotes

this post proves that the quote functions work now )

[eternaltraveler]

[quote name='brainbox' post='209061' date='Nov 22 2007, 01:57 PM']Yep, there's definitely more going on than just display handling of the database contents, the last post here is completely screwed.
Anyway, it was a quite direct and even brutal and demagogue argument against Eliah's position in this discussion which I wanted to apologize for, so not bad after all it did not make the transition. But it's a major bug.

I stopped trying to correct the traditional quote bug, just kept on making it worse before....[/quote]


that stuff is there, but smashed out of view, and it is a result of mishandling of old database content. All the posts in that thread were made before the transition (and also everything added to that already mangled thread will also be smashed, but there are no problems with new threads.

this is a result of everything the old database read as [quote] being translated into "<!--QuoteBegin--"name"----></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE "name"</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"

That code you see is what is causing all of the problems. We need a macro that goes through and changes all that stuff back to "[quote]", and the problem will go away.

This is probably due to some hacks we had in the old forum software regarding the quote function.

[eternaltraveler]

you can view everything normally if you switch to "outline" mode, under options on the upper right hand side of the forum you are viewing.

The only problem with outline mode is that it is what forums were like in 1990

[eternaltraveler]

It seems that the reply function inserts too much data after awhile when there are already a number of replies to replies The automatic reply or quote post functions can too easily hit a critical mass and the subsequent posts get compressed. I tried to go in and edit to fix but the damage is already done and I didn't want to make mattes worse so I backed out without making changes.

My advice to the navs that try and make the fixes, when in doubt exit by going back in the browser window as that leaves matters unchanged like a *cancel* option.

I suggest that we disable a few of these functions until we can apply a better patch or we will be performing textual surgery all over the place.

I also suggest taht we reduce a few of the command functins available in these rply windows. There are so many options that some are counter intuitive and will wipe out the intent before iti s possible to recover.

For example while in the quick edit window you can still "add reply" below but it wipes out the intended edits when it opens and even backing up won't recover the effort.

the global warming thread is now fixed.

There is my good deed for the day

[eternaltraveler]

For an example of a post with many quotes see http://www.imminst.o...200#entry209091

Also, from that post I just referenced I chose the right most number of the post to get a link and it gave me this which is another snafu as far as I can tell: http://www.imminst.o...o...st&p=209091 . With that post I was using the "Outline" view as suggested but the quotes still are messy.

I just fixed that whole thread. It has nothing to do with the number of quotes. It has to do with bogus code inserted in (which you can't see). the bogus code is this <!--QuoteBegin--"name"----></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE "name"</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"

The forum software reads the above code as "fuck everything up to high hell", and it does

[eternaltraveler]

If you click on a users name it shows posts they have made apparently in a random order. If you click on the "Posts" tab they still do not show the latest posts. This appears less utilitarian and more confusing than the former system which would show the latest posts.

You know, at one time I got paid rather big money to do this kind of work. I should just leave you guys to your fun and games. Appears the mission is not really of all that great importance to what Imminst has become. Appears your basic foundation architecture is at fault and that you don't have the humility to acknowledge this or take corrective action.

Chip, we mostly don't share your views for what you think imminst should be.

Get over it already, or leave. But please stop bitching.

[eternaltraveler]

Sounds like a good suggestion. At a young age my sisters and I asked our parents to stop taking us to church on Sundays and they let us. I once walked out of a Buddhist group, with the help of a friend who convinced them to give me back my shoes. Appears you guys have congealed your fundamentalist mentality without hope of recovery. Bask in your own arrogance spurred dysfunction if you will. Such is not my cup of tea. I do appreciate learning that transhumanism is just another excuse for power tripping, critical thinking not welcome.

done?