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[luv2increase]

If not you should. 1gram for every 33 lbs of body weight.

I think that is definitely overkill. I'd say more in the range of 1 gram per 100lbs or 45 1/2 kilos. If you do much strenuous activity, it would be advisable to increase it to 1 gram every 70lbs or 32 kilos.

[missminni]

If not you should. 1gram for every 33 lbs of body weight.

I think that is definitely overkill. I'd say more in the range of 1 gram per 100lbs or 45 1/2 kilos. If you do much strenuous activity, it would be advisable to increase it to 1 gram every 70lbs or 32 kilos.

I was actually advised the ratio of 1 gram for every 33 lbs by a vet for my dog and it made all the difference in the world.
You can't OD on glucosamine. I was giving him (he is 125lbs) 1500 mg before and having NO result. He was still having hip stiffness.
The day after I gave him 4 grams as required by his body weight, he ran up the stairs!!

[missminni]

My expression of thinking away was may be not so good but I try to put my mind away of the place of pain and this helps me. I have more problems of going to the place of pain then being in the place of pain beacuse being I can put my mind somewhere else. I think this was caused by the kind of trauma in my life when I was a child and I will probably carry this my whole life. I take glocosamine but only 1.5 gr. I will increase and see what happens. Also take a lot of other things like boron, boswellia, msm, vit. b6,b5, b3, fish oil etc.. Every morning aloe concentrate with aloe leaves (peaces) in it. DMSO I did not try yet but will in future.

Most definitely increase your glucosamine (and the plain inexpensive glucosamine is fine...you don't need the fancy kind) according
to the ratio 1 gram for every 33 lbs. IT WORKS!! I've seen the result with my dog first hand, overnight!
As for the Aloe, I have no experience with the concentrate. I firmly believe that eating the gel taken straight from the fresh green leaf is
what makes it effective. Once it is processed and bottled it loses most of its effectiveness, AFAIC. But you
do not eat the green part at all...that's not even really applicable for the arthtritis and it has a very strong laxative effect
Just use the clear jelly and whatever you scrape from the inside of the skin...kind of gooey. Can you get the fresh leaf where you live?
http://www.imminst.o...eaf-t19197.html
this is the thread I started for ALOE. If you want to discuss it, lets do it there so we don't go off topic.
If there are any West Indian groceries where you live, that is where you would find the whole leaf. They are very inexpensive.
99 cents a leaf, and thats provides about 3 or 4 servings.

Edited by missminni, 15 December 2007 - 08:23 PM.

[luv2increase]

I take glocosamine but only 1.5 gr. I will increase and see what happens. Also take a lot of other things like boron, boswellia, msm, vit. b6,b5, b3, fish oil etc.. Every morning aloe concentrate with aloe leaves (peaces) in it. DMSO I did not try yet but will in future.

I bet I know what would help you. You should start taking green tea extract, goji extract, noni extract, bilberry extract, pomegranate extract, mangosteen extract, acai extract, grapeseed extract, pine bark extract, and 3-6 grams of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) daily. There are drinks out there with a combination of noni, mangosteen, goji, and acai. Get that then buy the rest as separate extracts. There are combinations of grapeseed and pine bark extracts I believe. Granted it will cost a bit, but with costs come rewards. It definitely wouldn't hurt and think of other the other health benefits that would come along with the above recommendations. It would, undoubtedly, improve your well-being as well. It is a win-win situation. Good luck!

Edited by luv2increase, 15 December 2007 - 08:25 PM.

[luv2increase]

I was actually advised the ratio of 1 gram for every 33 lbs by a vet for my dog and it made all the difference in the world.
You can't OD on glucosamine. I was giving him (he is 125lbs) 1500 mg before and having NO result. He was still having hip stiffness.
The day after I gave him 4 grams as required by his body weight, he ran up the stairs!!

Exactly, a vet... Yeah, a gram would be ideal for a 33lb dog, but we aren't dogs. They are genetically different as well as the mice scientists do experiments on. The effects may be near identical, but the dosage ratios between humans and rodents etc... is different for different substances.

[missminni]

I was actually advised the ratio of 1 gram for every 33 lbs by a vet for my dog and it made all the difference in the world.
You can't OD on glucosamine. I was giving him (he is 125lbs) 1500 mg before and having NO result. He was still having hip stiffness.
The day after I gave him 4 grams as required by his body weight, he ran up the stairs!!

Exactly, a vet... Yeah, a gram would be ideal for a 33lb dog, but we aren't dogs. They are genetically different as well as the mice scientists do experiments on. The effects may be near identical, but the dosage ratios between humans and rodents etc... is different for different substances.

I beg to differ on all your points.
We may not be dogs, but we react similarly to medications and supplements.
Dogs can take human medicines and expect similar results, based on body weight for dosage amount.
Of course they are genetically different. So are you and I.
And as far as I understand, most of us hi-dosing Res are using the same ratio used with rodents in the experiments.
BTW he was a homeopathic vet.
And BTW I've spoken with a doctor/surgeon who treats humans and agrees with this ratio as well. He himself takes it that way.
In fact, everyone I know who is taking that ratio is finally seeing improvements with glucosamine, whereas before they didn't notice any,
My 92 year old dad included.
I believe this might be something you are not that well informed about.

Edited by missminni, 15 December 2007 - 09:43 PM.

[luv2increase]

I beg to differ on all your points.
We may not be dogs, but we react similarly to medications and supplements.

Are you serious? Re-read my post. You just contradicted yourself.

Dogs can take human medicines and expect similar results, based on body weight for dosage amount.

Wow, so are you saying 'all' medications and all substances for that matter in which humans consume, act identically in dogs? I surely hope not.

Of course they are genetically different. So are you and I.

That was not a good analogy. Sorry to be mean, but it was an uneducated one also.

And as far as I understand, most of us hi-dosing Res are using the same ratio used with rodents in the experiments.

So, you are absolutely certain that because they are doing it that it is right? I hope not.

BTW he was a homeopathic vet.

Great, I believe in homeopathy, but its applications aren't very pertinent here in this discussion.

And BTW I've spoken with a doctor/surgeon who treats humans and agrees with this ratio as well.

Do you always take a doctor's advice as gospel? It is time to start thinking like a scientist.

In fact, everyone I know who is taking that ratio is finally seeing improvements with glucosamine, whereas before they didn't notice any,
My 92 year old dad included.

Your father doesn't have the best of abilities when it comes to assimilating nutrients etc...; therefore, those amounts would be needed to make up for the excreted excesses.

I believe this might be something you are not that well informed about.

I would think not. I have been learning and helping many people through message boards and in real life for awhile now. My whole family is involved with alternative medicine as well as mainstream, conventional medicine. I have been lifting weights and running since I was 12 years old. During that time, I learned much about exercise, nutrition, and supplementation.

[missminni]

I beg to differ on all your points.
We may not be dogs, but we react similarly to medications and supplements.

Are you serious? Re-read my post. You just contradicted yourself.

Dogs can take human medicines and expect similar results, based on body weight for dosage amount.

Wow, so are you saying 'all' medications and all substances for that matter in which humans consume, act identically in dogs? I surely hope not.

Of course they are genetically different. So are you and I.

That was not a good analogy. Sorry to be mean, but it was an uneducated one also.

And as far as I understand, most of us hi-dosing Res are using the same ratio used with rodents in the experiments.

So, you are absolutely certain that because they are doing it that it is right? I hope not.

BTW he was a homeopathic vet.

Great, I believe in homeopathy, but its applications aren't very pertinent here in this discussion.

And BTW I've spoken with a doctor/surgeon who treats humans and agrees with this ratio as well.

Do you always take a doctor's advice as gospel? It is time to start thinking like a scientist.

In fact, everyone I know who is taking that ratio is finally seeing improvements with glucosamine, whereas before they didn't notice any,
My 92 year old dad included.

Your father doesn't have the best of abilities when it comes to assimilating nutrients etc...; therefore, those amounts would be needed to make up for the excreted excesses.

I believe this might be something you are not that well informed about.

I would think not. I have been learning and helping many people through message boards and in real life for awhile now. My whole family is involved with alternative medicine as well as mainstream, conventional medicine. I have been lifting weights and running since I was 12 years old. During that time, I learned much about exercise, nutrition, and supplementation.

Lets just agree to disagree. Let's just say that the surgeon I know, and the homeopathic vet who told me about it, and the people who are taking that dosage with excellent results, don't agree with you. Perhaps at your age, which I take it is rather young from the way you sound, I would venture to say twenty something, you don't need that much because you are not experiencing arthritis. But those who are actually experiencing pain and discomfort from arthritis, need to take higher dosage.
As far as your credentials based on lifting weights from 12 and coming from a family of doctors etc by no means makes you an authority.
I am 62 years old, get mistaken for thirty something and on a bad day, forty something, have been into weight lifting, physical exercise and health my whole life and have helped many people to be healthier too. So if experience is the bar, well, do the math.
ETA~it appears that the post I was responding too has either been moved or deleted, because after I posted my response, I see it is gone.

Edited by missminni, 15 December 2007 - 10:38 PM.

[luv2increase]

Lets just agree to disagree. Let's just say that the surgeon I know, and the homeopathic vet who told me about it, and the people who are taking that dosage with excellent results, don't agree with you. Perhaps at your age, which I take it is rather young from the way you sound, I would venture to say twenty something, you don't need that much because you are not experiencing arthritis. But those who are actually experiencing pain and discomfort from arthritis, need to take higher dosage.
As far as your credentials based on lifting weights from 12 and coming from a family of doctors etc by no means makes you an authority.
I am 62 years old, get mistaken for thirty something and on a bad day, forty something, have been into weight lifting, physical exercise and health my whole life and have helped many people to be healthier too. So if experience is the bar, well, do the math.

Well, first off, if you would take a gander at my profile, you would see my age there. Also, you may be 62 years old, but that doesn't mean anything. If you want to talk about philosophy or something, then you may have a one up on me, especially history of the 70s or something. We are not talking about that though. We are talking about a subject which has advanced exponentially since I first started learning. In that growth were alterations and the like to many beliefs that persisted for decades. I am at the advantage here because you, theoretically, have to unlearn the untrue things in your knowledge base. After, you need to learn about the science of today. I learned the truth from the get-go one could say.

One question you may ask yourself just for kicks is this; why do not the supplement companies recommend such high dosages of glucosamine as you have stated?

Edited by luv2increase, 15 December 2007 - 10:43 PM.

[missminni]

Lets just agree to disagree. Let's just say that the surgeon I know, and the homeopathic vet who told me about it, and the people who are taking that dosage with excellent results, don't agree with you. Perhaps at your age, which I take it is rather young from the way you sound, I would venture to say twenty something, you don't need that much because you are not experiencing arthritis. But those who are actually experiencing pain and discomfort from arthritis, need to take higher dosage.
As far as your credentials based on lifting weights from 12 and coming from a family of doctors etc by no means makes you an authority.
I am 62 years old, get mistaken for thirty something and on a bad day, forty something, have been into weight lifting, physical exercise and health my whole life and have helped many people to be healthier too. So if experience is the bar, well, do the math.

Well, first off, if you would take a gander at my profile, you would see my age there. Also, you may be 62 years old, but that doesn't mean anything. If you want to talk about philosophy or something, then you may have a one up on me, especially history of the 70s or something. We are not talking about that though. We are talking about a subject which has advanced exponentially since I first started learning. In that growth were alterations and the like to many beliefs that persisted for decades. I am at the advantage here because you, theoretically, have to unlearn the untrue things in your knowledge base. After, you need to learn about the science of today. I learned the truth from the get-go one could say.

One question you may ask yourself just for kicks is this; why do not the supplement companies recommend such high dosages of glucosamine as you have stated?

I never looked at your profile. I guessed your age. guess I was right. but I notice that all our posts are being moved so they must be objectionable. perhaps this is not an appropriate conversation, and I would have to agree with the mod who is seems to think so. But I would like to know if they are being deleted or moved.

[missminni]

Lets just agree to disagree. Let's just say that the surgeon I know, and the homeopathic vet who told me about it, and the people who are taking that dosage with excellent results, don't agree with you. Perhaps at your age, which I take it is rather young from the way you sound, I would venture to say twenty something, you don't need that much because you are not experiencing arthritis. But those who are actually experiencing pain and discomfort from arthritis, need to take higher dosage.
As far as your credentials based on lifting weights from 12 and coming from a family of doctors etc by no means makes you an authority.
I am 62 years old, get mistaken for thirty something and on a bad day, forty something, have been into weight lifting, physical exercise and health my whole life and have helped many people to be healthier too. So if experience is the bar, well, do the math.

Well, first off, if you would take a gander at my profile, you would see my age there. Also, you may be 62 years old, but that doesn't mean anything. If you want to talk about philosophy or something, then you may have a one up on me, especially history of the 70s or something. We are not talking about that though. We are talking about a subject which has advanced exponentially since I first started learning. In that growth were alterations and the like to many beliefs that persisted for decades. I am at the advantage here because you, theoretically, have to unlearn the untrue things in your knowledge base. After, you need to learn about the science of today. I learned the truth from the get-go one could say.

One question you may ask yourself just for kicks is this; why do not the supplement companies recommend such high dosages of glucosamine as you have stated?

Aha, so here they are. I have no idea why the don't recommend it. Perhaps they haven't tested at that dosage yet and don't want to be responsible for suggesting something they haven't tested?

[luv2increase]

Aha, so here they are. I have no idea why the don't recommend it. Perhaps they haven't tested at that dosage yet and don't want to be responsible for suggesting something they haven't tested?

I would have to say that is the end of that. I'm glad that you figured it out. While I'm not saying that high of a dose would have a deleterious effect on one's health (although possible), I'm saying it would 'most likely' add no additional benefit.

[scorpe]

I take glocosamine but only 1.5 gr. I will increase and see what happens. Also take a lot of other things like boron, boswellia, msm, vit. b6,b5, b3, fish oil etc.. Every morning aloe concentrate with aloe leaves (peaces) in it. DMSO I did not try yet but will in future.

I bet I know what would help you. You should start taking green tea extract, goji extract, noni extract, bilberry extract, pomegranate extract, mangosteen extract, acai extract, grapeseed extract, pine bark extract, and 3-6 grams of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) daily. There are drinks out there with a combination of noni, mangosteen, goji, and acai. Get that then buy the rest as separate extracts. There are combinations of grapeseed and pine bark extracts I believe. Granted it will cost a bit, but with costs come rewards. It definitely wouldn't hurt and think of other the other health benefits that would come along with the above recommendations. It would, undoubtedly, improve your well-being as well. It is a win-win situation. Good luck!

I already take bilberry, pomegranate, mangosteen, fresh grapefruit, acai, 1gr. vit. C. and feel very good and like I said the pain I can live with, it only hurts more like tonight being outside -3 C or with bare hands being in the mud or cold rain. I hurts also if somebody strong handshake me. But I will never tell that I have pain I just bite the bullet and in 30 secs I don't notice the pain anymore. Don't get focussed on pain it is not worth it. I will at least double the glucosamine and take some more vit. C. The aloe vera leaves I do't know if they sell this in the Netherlands also because I live in a small village. My wife had some trouble with her skin and I told her to put some aloe on it. She said it helped. I suppose all these sups helps me and yes I am 61 but people think I am fifty but more important I am working with young people and they think I am very young in my behaveour and thinking. Thanks all for the advises.

[Shepard]

Note that glucose homeostasis was the big concern for a little while regarding higher dosed glucosamine administration. Those effects have not been reproduced in oral administration in humans, though:

http://www.food.gov....information.pdf

[missminni]

Aha, so here they are. I have no idea why the don't recommend it. Perhaps they haven't tested at that dosage yet and don't want to be responsible for suggesting something they haven't tested?

I would have to say that is the end of that. I'm glad that you figured it out. While I'm not saying that high of a dose would have a deleterious effect on one's health (although possible), I'm saying it would 'most likely' add no additional benefit.

That is where you "most likely" are mistaken. I have seen and heard apparent
additional benefits from the increased dosage. Considering that someone already suffering from arthritis might get
an additional benefit from a larger dose of glucosamine is not unthinkable or unlikely. Or even, as you pointed out,
that someone my dads age would need a higher dose to get equivalent benefit of somebody say your age.
I know first hand that both my dad, my dog, and a couple of friends who upped their dosage all had additional benefits.
The fact that there are not clinical studies to back it up, does not mean it isn't so, it just means they haven't explored that
aspect yet. We have. As for harmful effects from that amount, I haven't noticed any and both the vet and surgeon
who supported it told me that the body will only use what it needs and pass/excrete the rest.
Since I obviously do not have a science background, I was happy to believe them. Maybe someone can add some
knowledge to this discussion in the form of science. That would be welcome.

[missminni]

Note that glucose homeostasis was the big concern for a little while regarding higher dosed glucosamine administration. Those effects have not been reproduced in oral administration in humans, though:

http://www.food.gov....information.pdf

I was unable to access this study as a pdf or html. I got this message:
"We are experiencing some problems with our PDF Download mirror network.
The PDF to HTML service is temporary unavailable.
Thanks for your understanding.
PDF Download team'

Would you be kind enough to give a summary of their findings. thanks.
ETA~I just got it. don't bother. I will read it. thanks

Well it appears that glucosamine administered orally in amounts much greater than what we are discussing here,
given for a period of three yeas, was found harmless. So that should clear that up.
As for it adding additional benefits, I for one have witnessed that it does.

Edited by missminni, 15 December 2007 - 11:28 PM.

[luv2increase]

]That is where you "most likely" are mistaken. I have seen and heard apparent
additional benefits from the increased dosage.

More of something is not always better. That will be a motto in my book I am currently writing. Everyone should hold this philosophy from the destructive, drug user to the constructive, life-extensionist. Unless there is solid evidence proving otherwise, I, being a smart and thinking man, would not partake in or advise it to anyone. When you tell people to take such high dosages, you should advise them for now on that you aren't quite sure of the safety though of extended and most notably high dose use.

Edited by luv2increase, 15 December 2007 - 11:29 PM.

[missminni]

]That is where you "most likely" are mistaken. I have seen and heard apparent
additional benefits from the increased dosage.

More of something is not always better. That will be a motto in my book I am currently writing. Everyone should hold this philosophy from the destructive, drug user to the constructive, life-extensionist. Unless there is solid evidence proving otherwise, I, being a smart and thinking man, would not partake in or advise it to anyone. When you tell people to take such high dosages, you should advise them for now on that you aren't quite sure of the safety though of extended and most notably high dose use.

Hey sweetie,
I guess you didn't read the study that was referenced for us by Shepard.
http://www.food.gov....information.pdf
Read it and include it in your book.
It should clear up your misgivings.

Edited by missminni, 15 December 2007 - 11:34 PM.

[luv2increase]

Well it appears that glucosamine administered orally in amounts much greater than what we are discussing here,
given for a period of three yeas, was found harmless.

All the mechanisms of the sum of glocasmine's effects in the body aren't even known yet.

So that should clear that up.

Not quite.

Quoted from http://www.food.gov....information.pdf

Persiani et al. (2005) show that the
consumption of glucosamine at doeses twice the typical supplemental use (3,000mg) did not significantly increase plasma AUC
glucosamine levels above those achieved using the standard 1,500mg dose. Thus, the possibility of increased glucosamine exposure
above the 90th percentile expected intakes, occurring from individuals who may consume glucosamine under the proposed uses
in conjunction with supplemental use, would not result in a significant increase in internal glucosamine exposures.

Now you can see that even now if it isn't bad for you long-term and not any better taking higher doses, I would now tell people to save their money.

Edited by luv2increase, 15 December 2007 - 11:43 PM.

[missminni]

I already take bilberry, pomegranate, mangosteen, fresh grapefruit, acai, 1gr. vit. C. and feel very good and like I said the pain I can live with, it only hurts more like tonight being outside -3 C or with bare hands being in the mud or cold rain. I hurts also if somebody strong handshake me. But I will never tell that I have pain I just bite the bullet and in 30 secs I don't notice the pain anymore. Don't get focussed on pain it is not worth it. I will at least double the glucosamine and take some more vit. C. The aloe vera leaves I do't know if they sell this in the Netherlands also because I live in a small village. My wife had some trouble with her skin and I told her to put some aloe on it. She said it helped. I suppose all these sups helps me and yes I am 61 but people think I am fifty but more important I am working with young people and they think I am very young in my behaveour and thinking. Thanks all for the advises.

Read the report
http://www.food.gov....information.pdf
that Shepard linked, so that you will see that there is absolutely no harm in taking
even 10 times what I suggested. 1 gram for 33 lbs is modest compared to what they tested.
I weigh 120 and take 3 to 4 grams. 3 grams would be good if you were only 100 lbs. If you are
150 to 200 I would suggest taking 5 to 6 grams. I also remember something about too much vit C be irritating to joints.
I am not so sure I would take more of it in your case.
I guess getting fresh aloe leaf is out of the question where you live, although you probably could find it online and have
it sent. But see if you get any relief from increasing the glucosamine first.

[luv2increase]

Read what I posted and quit telling people to waste their money for now on. I understand that you didn't know before but don't turned a blind eye now. I believe what you and the others have experienced were a placebo effect.

Edited by luv2increase, 15 December 2007 - 11:49 PM.

[missminni]

Well it appears that glucosamine administered orally in amounts much greater than what we are discussing here,
given for a period of three yeas, was found harmless.

All the mechanisms of the sum of glocasmine's effects in the body aren't even known yet.

So that should clear that up.

Not quite.

Quoted from http://www.food.gov....information.pdf

Persiani et al. (2005) show that the
consumption of glucosamine at doeses twice the typical supplemental use (3,000mg) did not significantly increase plasma AUC
glucosamine levels above those achieved using the standard 1,500mg dose. Thus, the possibility of increased glucosamine exposure
above the 90th percentile expected intakes, occurring from individuals who may consume glucosamine under the proposed uses
in conjunction with supplemental use, would not result in a significant increase in internal glucosamine exposures.

Now you can see that even now if it isn't bad for you long-term and not any better taking higher doses, I would now tell people to save their money.

That doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't have an additional benefit. You are assuming that, but that was not what they were testing for.
I would most certainly suggest anybody like Scorpe, who can't shake hands without having pain, take it in mega doses.
And as far as money, if you just get plain old glucosamine, and forget the chondroiton or MSM, its not expensive at all.
I get NOW Glucosamine 1000 (180 caps X 1000mg) for $14.

[missminni]

Read what I posted and quit telling people to waste their money for now on. I understand that you didn't know before but don't turned a blind eye now. I believe what you and the others have experienced were a placebo effect.

I read what you posted.
I'd like to know how a dog can have a placebo effect.
I believe you are an ego driven young man who doesn't like to lose an argument, and
I strongly suggest you NEVER tell me what to do.

[Shepard]

All right guys, let's try not to let this become an internet tough guy argument.

[missminni]

All right guys, let's try not to let this become an internet tough guy argument.

I have to say that for somebody who uses the name Luv2Increase,
the argument is quite ironic.

[luv2increase]

but that was not what they were testing for.

Not what they were testing for? Read page number 14. The page of the "Conclusion".

The conclusions from the paper say that glucosamine in high dosages is not bad for you, yet it would be a waste to do so because they did not increase serum levels of glucosamine. You simply cannot knit pick and choose what to believe in the report and blatantly disregard others. When it says did not increase serum levels of glucosamine, that means, in layman's terms, only so much is absorbed and the rest is excreted as waste.

This would mean that your experience of higher dose is either the placebo effect or glucosamine works in a different mechanism that what is currently known. Who knows?

[missminni]

but that was not what they were testing for.

Not what they were testing for? Read page number 14. The page of the "Conclusion".

The conclusions from the paper say that glucosamine in high dosages is not bad for you, yet it would be a waste to do so because they did not increase serum levels of glucosamine. You simply cannot knit pick and choose what to believe in the report and blatantly disregard others. When it says did not increase serum levels of glucosamine, that means, in layman's terms, only so much is absorbed and the rest is excreted as waste.

This would mean that your experience of higher dose is either the placebo effect or glucosamine works in a different mechanism that what is currently known. Who knows?

There you go.
Who knows? Those who try it.

[luv2increase]

All right guys, let's try not to let this become an internet tough guy argument.

I have to say that for somebody who uses the name Luv2Increase,
the argument is quite ironic.

I believe he was talking about both of us. I can't believe you didn't realize that. lol

I'm done with this discussion. I usually believe in respecting my elders, but at times, that is very hard to do apparently.



And one thing my name implies to is increasing my life-span by not doing stupid stuff like mega dosing stuff irresponsibly. Granted, now, you see that it is safe to do so, but not before. Any normal person would have asked themselves the question of why the manufacturer doesn't recommend 10g a day of glucosamine, yet normally 2g at the most.

I'm sorry I like to be responsible when it comes to my health and the health of others. I research everything, and that includes dosages, before I buy, use, or tell other people to use or not to use it.

Edited by luv2increase, 16 December 2007 - 12:16 AM.

[missminni]

All right guys, let's try not to let this become an internet tough guy argument.

I have to say that for somebody who uses the name Luv2Increase,
the argument is quite ironic.

I believe he was talking about both of us. I can't believe you didn't realize that. lol

I'm done with this discussion. I usually believe in respecting my elders, but at times, that is very hard to do apparently.

I knew he was talking about both of us.
I was just pointing out the irony in your name in relation to the argument we were having.
boy you are touchy aren't you?

ETA~did you take that dna personality test yet? There's a thread for it. I would love to see your result.

Edited by missminni, 16 December 2007 - 12:17 AM.

[missminni]

All right guys, let's try not to let this become an internet tough guy argument.

I have to say that for somebody who uses the name Luv2Increase,
the argument is quite ironic.

I believe he was talking about both of us. I can't believe you didn't realize that. lol

I'm done with this discussion. I usually believe in respecting my elders, but at times, that is very hard to do apparently.



And one thing my name implies to is increasing my life-span by not doing stupid stuff like mega dosing stuff irresponsibly. Granted, now, you see that it is safe to do so, but not before. Any normal person would have asked themselves the question of why the manufacturer doesn't recommend 10g a day of glucosamine, yet normally 2g at the most.

I'm sorry I like to be responsible when it comes to my health and the health of others. I research everything, and that includes dosages, before I buy, use, or tell other people to use or not to use it.

Relax
I knew it wasn't dangerous before I suggested it. You didn't.
I commend you on your sense of responsibility etc.
I have a very different approach than you, that's all.
You like your way, and I like mine. So let's just agree to disagree
and put this baby to bed.