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[struct]

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Hm... for "a second" I really thought you were a "tough guy". Do you think you'll be OK (no panicking) tomorrow, Dec. 31, or would you like me to take my deathline guess back?

Struct, I’m not trying to be a “tough guy”. I’m just a Life Extensionist/Immortalist trying to make it into the future. You’re very knowledgeable about cryonics, so you know what time a day it is when it comes to what I’m trying to get done here.

Now, as far as Jan 1st goes, I got 2 special posts videos with you in mind. I’m not really sweating this deadline, I’m not having any heart related problems, and my lungs are not filled with fluid, so I’m fairly confident about seeing the New Year.

My first video pick for you, I’ll give you a little info on, the symbolism at the beginning is two warriors meeting on a battlefield, kinda representing our square off so to speak. The background music is set to music that is very similar to the Siege of Camylied. The two warriors draw swords, what happens after that. Well, you’ll have to watch the video; even then, I’m not sure you’ll catch the symbolism in it. I know you got Brass, I’m pretty sure you got the brains to figure it out too, we’ll see. I think you’ll like it. If not, 10 minutes after midnight I’m going to post video 2, I know for a fact that you’ll like and appreciate the second piece.

As for taking your deathline guess back, why if I didn’t know you better I would say you’re trying to back down from your prediction, are you sure you’re not just losing confidence in your guess? You think I’m going to die before midnight tomorrow when most people are going to celebrate the New Year? You’re not in good shape on this one; in fact I want to make this event a little more interesting, so I’m challenging you to a little wager.

I have a Blank 500 Dollar postal money order issued 2008-11-14 from a donor who sent it to me to square away a matter of my returned lifetime membership fee. He has authorized that I may use it for this wager. I am going to place this postal money order in an envelope with instructions to Carol to mail this to you should I die. You just need to let me know where you want the check sent. Now, I realize that you’re in this deal sideways with your poor guess, so I’m not looking to make a 500 dollar wager against 500 dollars, oh no, and besides, that lacks imagination, I want the bet to be a little more spicier than that. I don’t want a dime from you, I want something different from you’re side of the table. What do I want you to put up for a wager against my 500-dollar check? Well Struct, somewhere in your Boott Mill Apartment you have, or have access to your grandmother’s receipt for her corn pie and I’m dying to taste it. So if I make it you have to make and deliver that corn pie to me, and I’m going to give you until the first day of spring to make it happen, so not only do I have to win the bet, I have to live until the first day of spring if you draw it out that long to collect my winnings. Oh, and you have to go easy on the nettles and I love feta cheese, so you gotta load that pie with extra extra feta cheese.

So waddya say Struct, feeling as confident as you did when you threw that out there? Of course, I want to be gracious, if you want to withdraw your guess because you guessed wrong feel free, and if you still like your odds, step up to the plate and accept my wager.

in fact I want to make this event a little more interesting, so I’m challenging you to a little wager.

So waddya say Struct ...?

OK

You just need to let me know where you want the check sent.

Send it either to Missminni or Immortality Institute.

have access to your grandmother’s receipt for her corn pie ... I’m dying to taste it. So if I make it you have to make and deliver that corn pie to me, and I’m going to give you until the first day of spring to make it happen, so not only do I have to win the bet, I have to live until the first day of spring if you draw it out that long to collect my winnings. Oh, and you have to go easy on the nettles and I love feta cheese, so you gotta load that pie with extra extra feta cheese.

I already know how to make that pie. I and my ex-girlfriend used to go in the wild (late April or biginning of May in New England) and pick stinging nettles (Urtica dioica) to make that pie. So let make the deadline for my stinging nettles pie April 31st (the snow would have melted and the fresh stinging nettles would have sprung by then). I will bring the pie myself if that's ok with you.

Happy 2009 (if you make it; I may be out having fun tonight but I'll look forward to see your videos)

[bacopa]

You'll make it and be celebrating long into the next few decades I suspect. Have a happy new year and be strong!

[thefirstimmortal]

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Hm... for "a second" I really thought you were a "tough guy". Do you think you'll be OK (no panicking) tomorrow, Dec. 31, or would you like me to take my deathline guess back?

Struct, I’m not trying to be a “tough guy”. I’m just a Life Extensionist/Immortalist trying to make it into the future. You’re very knowledgeable about cryonics, so you know what time a day it is when it comes to what I’m trying to get done here.

Now, as far as Jan 1st goes, I got 2 special posts videos with you in mind. I’m not really sweating this deadline, I’m not having any heart related problems, and my lungs are not filled with fluid, so I’m fairly confident about seeing the New Year.

My first video pick for you, I’ll give you a little info on, the symbolism at the beginning is two warriors meeting on a battlefield, kinda representing our square off so to speak. The background music is set to music that is very similar to the Siege of Camylied. The two warriors draw swords, what happens after that. Well, you’ll have to watch the video; even then, I’m not sure you’ll catch the symbolism in it. I know you got Brass, I’m pretty sure you got the brains to figure it out too, we’ll see. I think you’ll like it. If not, 10 minutes after midnight I’m going to post video 2, I know for a fact that you’ll like and appreciate the second piece.

As for taking your deathline guess back, why if I didn’t know you better I would say you’re trying to back down from your prediction, are you sure you’re not just losing confidence in your guess? You think I’m going to die before midnight tomorrow when most people are going to celebrate the New Year? You’re not in good shape on this one; in fact I want to make this event a little more interesting, so I’m challenging you to a little wager.

I have a Blank 500 Dollar postal money order issued 2008-11-14 from a donor who sent it to me to square away a matter of my returned lifetime membership fee. He has authorized that I may use it for this wager. I am going to place this postal money order in an envelope with instructions to Carol to mail this to you should I die. You just need to let me know where you want the check sent. Now, I realize that you’re in this deal sideways with your poor guess, so I’m not looking to make a 500 dollar wager against 500 dollars, oh no, and besides, that lacks imagination, I want the bet to be a little more spicier than that. I don’t want a dime from you, I want something different from you’re side of the table. What do I want you to put up for a wager against my 500-dollar check? Well Struct, somewhere in your Boott Mill Apartment you have, or have access to your grandmother’s receipt for her corn pie and I’m dying to taste it. So if I make it you have to make and deliver that corn pie to me, and I’m going to give you until the first day of spring to make it happen, so not only do I have to win the bet, I have to live until the first day of spring if you draw it out that long to collect my winnings. Oh, and you have to go easy on the nettles and I love feta cheese, so you gotta load that pie with extra extra feta cheese.

So waddya say Struct, feeling as confident as you did when you threw that out there? Of course, I want to be gracious, if you want to withdraw your guess because you guessed wrong feel free, and if you still like your odds, step up to the plate and accept my wager.

in fact I want to make this event a little more interesting, so I’m challenging you to a little wager.

So waddya say Struct ...?

OK

You just need to let me know where you want the check sent.

Send it either to Missminni or Immortality Institute.

have access to your grandmother’s receipt for her corn pie ... I’m dying to taste it. So if I make it you have to make and deliver that corn pie to me, and I’m going to give you until the first day of spring to make it happen, so not only do I have to win the bet, I have to live until the first day of spring if you draw it out that long to collect my winnings. Oh, and you have to go easy on the nettles and I love feta cheese, so you gotta load that pie with extra extra feta cheese.

I already know how to make that pie. I and my ex-girlfriend used to go in the wild (late April or biginning of May in New England) and pick stinging nettles (Urtica dioica) to make that pie. So let make the deadline for my stinging nettles pie April 31st (the snow would have melted and the fresh stinging nettles would have sprung by then). I will bring the pie myself if that's ok with you.

Happy 2009 (if you make it; I may be out having fun tonight but I'll look forward to see your videos)

Your a good sport Struct, I like your style I'll be here 12:01, and as for the personal pie delivery, I wouldn't have it any other way

Edited by thefirstimmortal, 31 December 2008 - 05:14 PM.

[thefirstimmortal]

I don't understand,how can you have a heart attack? Was it a real heart attack or just a panic attack?

OK VictorBjoerk, I'm going to be doing some cutting and pasting from my medical reports and other posts to save me some time.

Below is from one of my posted medical reports.

In the mediastinum there is a large mass which appears to have its epicenter in the infracarinal region with extension to the carina and involving the left hilum. The left main bronchus is narrowed with occlusion of the left lower lobe with some aeration of the left upper lobe still seen. A left pleural effusion with some thickening of the pleura posteriorly and also on the diaphragm appears to be present. The mass significantly compresses the left atrium and surrounds the left main pulmonary artery in the hilum. It is difficult to separate the mass from the consolidation in the left lower lobe with the overall size of the mass measuring at least 11.7 x 8.4cm as measured on image 51 on the coronal reformations.

There are some small nodes also in the right hilum. The mass extends into the inferior aspect of the right hilum seen for example on image 55.
full report
http://www.imminst.o...&...st&p=257988

To use laymans terms, I got a softball sized tumor that presses against my heart and wraps itself around my circulatory plumbing so to speak.

Let me break this down for you further, the mass significantly compresses the left atrium. Blood is pumped through the left atrioventricular orifice, which contains the bicuspid ormitrl valve. A normal left atrium may be up to 5.5cm in maximum diameter. The left atrium of a human faces more or less posteriorly. It is named 'left' based on the chamber's embryological and (putative) evolutionary origin. The term 'base' of the heart sometimes refers to the left atrium, though 'base' is an ambiguous term.

Here is a picture.

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[thefirstimmortal]

You'll make it and be celebrating long into the next few decades I suspect. Have a happy new year and be strong!

Live Long and Well Dfowler.

[thefirstimmortal]

VictorBjoerk, as the report indicates, not only does the mass compress the left atrium it also surrounds the left main pulmonary artery in the hilum. In the heart, human the pulmonary trunk (pulmonary artery or main pulmonary artery) begins at the base of the right ventricle. It is short and wide - approximately 5 cm (2 inches) in length and 3 cm (1.2 inches) in diameter. It then branches into two pulmonary arteries (left and right), which deliver deoxygenated blood to the corresponding lung. Hear is a picture of a cross section of lung.

The round holes in the middle, that's the heart.

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[thefirstimmortal]

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From the medical records section,

CT chest on 1/11/08 showed a large mass in the mediastinum which extended into the hilum and upper abdomen; mass has extension to the carina and involves the left hilum; left main bronchus is narrowed with occlusion in the left lower lobe. There is a left pleural effusion. Mass compresses the left atrium and surrounds the left main pulmonary artery and measures 11.7 x 8.4 cm, small nodes in the right hilum. Mass also extends to the inferior aspect of the right hilum.
full report
http://www.imminst.o...&...st&p=258145

The mass extends into the hilum. The hilum is above and behind the cardiac impression, it is a triangular depression where the structures which form the root of the lung enter and leave the viscus. These include the pulmonary artery superiormost on the left lung the superior and inferior pulmonary veins, and the bronchus, with bronchial vessels surrounding it. Relook at the above pics.

[thefirstimmortal]

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Jumping around a bit, here is piece of one of my prognosis reports.

First, I will tell you that my clinical impression is that Bill is in the last few weeks of his life, at best. He was in very considerable pain despite a moderate dose of p.o. morphine; and he has developed +4 pitting edema of the lower extremities. He is mostly bed bound due to pain; he is unable to stand due to excruciating pain. I would put his Karnofsky's score at between 50% and 60%. The lower limb edema may be indicative of tumor-mediated occlusion of the inferior vena cava; renal failure is unlikely. Of course, thromboembolic disease is also possible, and in any event the edema and immobility put him at much increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism and consequently sudden death.

The report should say I was chair bound because I could not lay down in any fashion for over 2 months.

At any rate VictorBjoerk, let's focus on the pulmonary embolism and sudden death. Pulmonary embolism (PE) is a blockage of the pulmonary artery or one of its branches, usually occurring when a venous thrombus (blood clot from a vein) becomes dislodged from its site of formation and embolizes to the arterial blood supply of one of the lungs. This process is termed thromboembolism. Symptoms may include difficulty breathing, pain in the chest during breathing, and in more severe cases collapse, circulatory instability and sudden death.

In my case, the threat isn’t so much from blood clots (internal) it’s external from the tumor pressing and wraping and chocking off the heart.

[thefirstimmortal]

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I don't understand,how can you have a heart attack? Was it a real heart attack or just a panic attack?

Now, pulling all the reports pictures and my explanation together, is this enough data for you to understand?

9 Days later I ended up getting rushed to the hospital emergency room where while I was hooked up to machines I had a heart attack. I called up for those records today. They would probably have been better at explaining what is or was going on with my heart.

At any rate, I’ve never had a panic attack in my life.

[missminni]

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Jumping around a bit, here is piece of one of my prognosis reports.

First, I will tell you that my clinical impression is that Bill is in the last few weeks of his life, at best. He was in very considerable pain despite a moderate dose of p.o. morphine; and he has developed +4 pitting edema of the lower extremities. He is mostly bed bound due to pain; he is unable to stand due to excruciating pain. I would put his Karnofsky's score at between 50% and 60%. The lower limb edema may be indicative of tumor-mediated occlusion of the inferior vena cava; renal failure is unlikely. Of course, thromboembolic disease is also possible, and in any event the edema and immobility put him at much increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism and consequently sudden death.

The report should say I was chair bound because I could not lay down in any fashion for over 2 months.

At any rate VictorBjoerk, let's focus on the pulmonary embolism and sudden death. Pulmonary embolism (PE) is a blockage of the pulmonary artery or one of its branches, usually occurring when a venous thrombus (blood clot from a vein) becomes dislodged from its site of formation and embolizes to the arterial blood supply of one of the lungs. This process is termed thromboembolism. Symptoms may include difficulty breathing, pain in the chest during breathing, and in more severe cases collapse, circulatory instability and sudden death.

In my case, the threat isn’t so much from blood clots (internal) it’s external from the tumor pressing and wraping and chocking off the heart.

can you lay down now?

[missminni]

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I don't understand,how can you have a heart attack? Was it a real heart attack or just a panic attack?

Now, pulling all the reports pictures and my explanation together, is this enough data for you to understand?

9 Days later I ended up getting rushed to the hospital emergency room where while I was hooked up to machines I had a heart attack. I called up for those records today. They would probably have been better at explaining what is or was going on with my heart.

At any rate, I’ve never had a panic attack in my life.

That's not what I would call a panic attack the night you posted that video. That was pure excitement getting ready for midnight to hit. I've had the same thing happen when sniping a bid on ebay. Those last few seconds are intense and I can hear and feel my heart pounding. As soon as I click the bid in, the pounding is over. I'm not panicked or scared, I'm just excited.

[thefirstimmortal]

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can you lay down now?

Yes, a few days before I got out of the hospital I was finially able to lay on my right side only. I can't lay on my back or left side, but I can at least go to sleep at night laying down.

Edited by thefirstimmortal, 31 December 2008 - 11:53 PM.

[thefirstimmortal]

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That's not what I would call a panic attack the night you posted that video. That was pure excitement getting ready for midnight to hit. I've had the same thing happen when sniping a bid on ebay. Those last few seconds are intense and I can hear and feel my heart pounding. As soon as I click the bid in, the pounding is over. I'm not panicked or scared, I'm just excited.

Sorry Missminni, your dead wrong on this one. What happened to me was not what happens when you snip a bid on ebay. There is a world of difference from getting exited with a slight increased heartbeat and a having a heart start beating at nearly 200 bpm and displaying clear unmistakable stroke like symptoms. Granted, the exitement probably triggered the event, but the event itself was not "pure exitement".

[missminni]

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That's not what I would call a panic attack the night you posted that video. That was pure excitement getting ready for midnight to hit. I've had the same thing happen when sniping a bid on ebay. Those last few seconds are intense and I can hear and feel my heart pounding. As soon as I click the bid in, the pounding is over. I'm not panicked or scared, I'm just excited.

Sorry Missminni, your dead wrong on this one. What happened to me was not what happens when you snip a bid on ebay. There is a world of difference from getting exited with a slight increased heartbeat and a having a heart start beating at nearly 200 bpm and displaying clear unmistakable stroke like symptoms. Granted, the exitement probably triggered the event, but the event itself was not "pure exitement".

I can understand that...but you said it stopped immediately after you posted, right? A "heart attack" or cardiac event wouldn't have stopped just like that, would it?

[thefirstimmortal]

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I can understand that...but you said it stopped immediately after you posted, right? A "heart attack" or cardiac event wouldn't have stopped just like that, would it?

That's exactly what happens with the cardiac events, the heart eventually goes back to normal. I have had many of these events over the past year whenever the tumor gets large. But the events do get progressively worse to the point where it was on Nov. 9 where you just know that you might not survive the real big ones. They get longer and stronger as the tumor applies greater pressure.

[missminni]

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I can understand that...but you said it stopped immediately after you posted, right? A "heart attack" or cardiac event wouldn't have stopped just like that, would it?

That's exactly what happens with the cardiac events, the heart eventually goes back to normal. I have had many of these events over the past year whenever the tumor gets large. But the events do get progressively worse to the point where it was on Nov. 9 where you just know that you might not survive the real big ones. They get longer and stronger as the tumor applies greater pressure.

That's awful. Scary. I don't know how you deal with it. How's it been getting down
the zerumbone? I heard that there should be noticeable results in a few weeks.

[thefirstimmortal]

I'm still alive.
Happy New Year Struct.

Please turn your volume up as loud as you can stand it, and press play.

[thefirstimmortal]

Well Struct, I’m Back
Yes I'm back.

This next video I picked because of the message and also because it is from one of your all time favorite bands. One of mine too.



Please turn your volume up as loud as you can stand it, and press play.

Back in black I hit the sack
I been too long I'm glad to be back
Yes I am
Let loose from the noose
That's kept me hanging about
I keep looking at the sky cause it's gettin' me high
Forget the hearse cause I'll never die
I got nine lives cat's eyes
Using every one of them and runnin' wild
Cause I'm back
Yes I'm back well I'm back

Well I'm back back
Well I'm back in black
Yes I'm back in black
Back in the back of a Cadillac
Number one with a bullet I'm a power pack
Yes I am
In a bang with the gang
They gotta catch me if they want me to hang
Cause I'm back on the track and I'm beatin' the flack
Nobody's gonna get me on another rap
So look at me now I'm just makin' my play
Don't try to push your luck just get out of my way
Cause I'm back
Yes I'm back

[missminni]

Happy New Year and may you have many many more.

[thefirstimmortal]

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That's awful. Scary. I don't know how you deal with it. How's it been getting down
the zerumbone? I heard that there should be noticeable results in a few weeks.

Yeah, the heart problems when the tumor effects it can rattle my cage a little.

Zerumbone, going OK, twice dosing daily. The tumor seems to be holding steady.

[thefirstimmortal]

Happy New Year and may you have many many more.

Thank You Missminni, Happy New Year to you as well .

Any New Years resolutions?

[missminni]

Happy New Year and may you have many many more.

Thank You Missminni, Happy New Year to you as well .

Any New Years resolutions?

no. why set myself up for failure. Actually, I do have one that I intend to
follow through on...and that is to leave the city and head for the hills. I've been putting it off for
too long.

[missminni]

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That's awful. Scary. I don't know how you deal with it. How's it been getting down
the zerumbone? I heard that there should be noticeable results in a few weeks.

Yeah, the heart problems when the tumor effects it can rattle my cage a little.

Zerumbone, going OK, twice dosing daily. The tumor seems to be holding steady.

when do you go back for chemo?

[Anthony_Loera]

AC/DC !! Ahh....That takes me back...

Congratulations Bill, Although I have been worried a couple times for you... you have always pulled through.

Even way back before your November deadline, I was telling you you would make it to the New Year and Beyond... although you scared me a couple times there, you definitely are beating your doctor's expectations (which I don't hold with any importance anymore).

So why don't you stick around for a while, I need to send you a small gift at the end of January that may help.


Have an extremely Happy New Year!!!

A

[Mixter]

Happy new year TFI!

[struct]

I'm still alive.
Happy New Year Struct.

Go easy on the font size. ha ha
Great TheFirstImmortal! I am glad you made it.
Let's see if you are able, not only to stay alive around the end of April, but actually eat my stinging-nettles pie.

(about videos)
I was surprised with the second video. Yes, a lot of AC/DC songs are my favorates songs, even though I didn't like their last album (Black Ice) that much; it seems that they have lost their vigor (guess what, they are getting biologically old).
The difficulty of catching the symbolism of the 1st video stems from our different ways of seeing the same thing. I'll give it a shot:
The little boy who gradually grows up and takes on greater and greater challenges is you. At some point he learns that some of the challenges were just a test/play (they could be viewed as real challenges though). Seemingly, in the opening scene, he comes to face a real challenge (but that could be interpret as another test/play). I may be off from what you thought I would think of it.
Once again:
Happy New Year!

[thefirstimmortal]

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when do you go back for chemo?

Talked to the nurse again Wednesday, haven't heard back.

[thefirstimmortal]

AC/DC !! Ahh....That takes me back...

Congratulations Bill, Although I have been worried a couple times for you... you have always pulled through.

Even way back before your November deadline, I was telling you you would make it to the New Year and Beyond... although you scared me a couple times there, you definitely are beating your doctor's expectations (which I don't hold with any importance anymore).

So why don't you stick around for a while, I need to send you a small gift at the end of January that may help.


Have an extremely Happy New Year!!!

A

Thanks Anthony,
I'm not sure which one of my "nine lives" I'm working on, but I think I'm pushing my luck a bit.

As far as sticking around, I'm battling back.

I called in for a new prognosis report, so when I get that in, we will have to set the next hurdle. Think Kurt will get generous and give me another 6 months?

[thefirstimmortal]

Happy new year TFI!

Happy New Year to you too Mixture!

[thefirstimmortal]

Go easy on the font size. ha ha
Great TheFirstImmortal! I am glad you made it.
Let's see if you are able, not only to stay alive around the end of April, but actually eat my stinging-nettles pie.

Hey, that's supposed to be corn pie, easy on the spices and loaded with feta cheese.

(about videos)
I was surprised with the second video. Yes, a lot of AC/DC songs are my favorates songs, even though I didn't like their last album (Black Ice) that much; it seems that they have lost their vigor (guess what, they are getting biologically old).

What was surprising about the 2nd video?

The difficulty of catching the symbolism of the 1st video stems from our different ways of seeing the same thing. I'll give it a shot:
The little boy who gradually grows up and takes on greater and greater challenges is you. At some point he learns that some of the challenges were just a test/play (they could be viewed as real challenges though). Seemingly, in the opening scene, he comes to face a real challenge (but that could be interpret as another test/play). I may be off from what you thought I would think of it.
Once again:
Happy New Year!

Hmmm, you definately to your credit over thought the 1st video, I was just reffering to the opening square off. We'll just let that one rest.
Happy New Year,
Live Long and Well.

Edited by thefirstimmortal, 01 January 2009 - 08:51 PM.